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| Quote ="Mutts"icon_rolleyes.gif right im fed up off pussy footing around this jay wanted to stay but was told he would not get a contract if folk wanna believe he ran off to Leeds then fine some hear one thing some another sometimes though the horses mouth is more reliable.'"
Players are reliable for info come off it. I do know the story and he most definitely was offered a contract as stated by JK in the express - get real. I wouldn't mind but I wish him all the best, but I think he is spinning you a line.
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| Quote ="Mutts"i have stated elsewhere in this thread i dont know jay , what i do know is that he was given little option in staying and you seem to be clued up in the fact he was offered something but i think we both know that it was not adequate. Jay would of stayed if he was given a fair deal . All this bollox makes me sick time and time again i back the club as having the interest of the club at heart but this time they have lost my support.
you can telephone jay and ask him whether or not he was happy at Wakefield and if he saw his long term future at the club.
information conflicts i know but im pretty confident that on this occasion i have the right story.'"
as a side belly how strange that wakefield did not kick up a fuss about being poached and that they have let him go with 7 possibly more games left
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| Quote ="vastman"Players are reliable for info
come off it. I do know the story and he most definitely was offered a contract as stated by JK in the express - get real. I wouldn't mind but I wish him all the best, but I think he is spinning you a line.'"
i have not spoke to jay pitts but lets just say the move did not come as a shock.
yes sometimes people get more info than SWAG, deal with it
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| Quote ="Mutts"you dont know the full story'"
Where as you clearly only choose to know one side.
Might I suggest that what he actually means is that Wakefield didn't offer him the contract he wanted which is an altogether different matter?
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| Quote ="Haywire"belly grabs Mutts by the short and curlies....how will Mutts get out of this one?'"
nowhere near my short ones
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| Quote ="vastman"Where as you clearly only choose to know one side.
Might I suggest that what he actually means is that Wakefield didn't offer him the contract he wanted which is an altogether different matter?'"
The info was not from Jay , Do you understand
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| Quote ="Haywire"Snitch and Fergie, according to the thread.'"
Cheers, had read the Fergie one but forgot it, missed the Snitch one. If true good on them.
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| Quote ="Mutts"unless they love the club they were at , fox never put the boot in.
sculthorpe showed what he was'"
Did Fox feel hard done by (forced out)?
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| Quote ="Mutts"i have not spoke to jay pitts but lets just say the move did not come as a shock.
yes sometimes people get more info than SWAG, deal with it'"
Your credibility on this issue is slipping fast. You don't need to be in SWAG to read the Express where JK says something like we have offered Pitts an enhanced and extended contract.
So Kear is a liar?
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| Quote ="Mutts"nowhere near my short ones'"
Or the horses mouth either, by the looks of things.
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| getting more like the dragons den this .
i have more of a rep for backing the club and teddy boy but we all have a limit . Something stinks a lot worse than the pitts saga . Players going on loan others on their way out at the end of the season all rumours of course but what i have said on this subject is what i know if that upsets some then you need to deal with the fact that the good ship wakey might be springing leaks .
like i said about the dragons den , im the 3rd mod out of this rebbs its all yours
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| Quote ="Mutts"The info was not from Jay , Do you understand'"
You clearly don't understand the expression "horses mouth"!
"right im fed up off pussy footing around this jay wanted to stay but was told he would not get a contract if folk wanna believe he ran off to Leeds then fine some hear one thing some another sometimes though the horses mouth is more reliable"
Anybody would read that as you meaning Jay, so in other word you got it second hand from a source as yet not named ie unreliable because you don't name them.
Do you understand?
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| Quote ="vastman"Your credibility on this issue is slipping fast. You don't need to be in SWAG to read the Express where JK says something like we have offered Pitts an enhanced and extended contract.
So Kear is a liar?'"
no of course not vasty , but being such a wordsmith as yourself your know that you can tell a story many ways.
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| Quote ="Mutts"getting more like the dragons den this .
i have more of a rep for backing the club and teddy boy but we all have a limit . Something stinks a lot worse than the pitts saga . Players going on loan others on their way out at the end of the season all rumours of course but what i have said on this subject is what i know if that upsets some then you need to deal with the fact that the good ship wakey might be springing leaks .
like i said about the dragons den , im the 3rd mod out of this rebbs its all yours'"
So what (if anything) have you been told "from the horses mouth".... ?
If we know this then we can start to try make our own minds up on if we think the club has done the right thing or not.
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| Quote ="Mutts"as a side belly how strange that wakefield did not kick up a fuss about being poached and that they have let him go with 7 possibly more games left'"
Because he wasn't 'poached' and a solution was reached that was benefical to all parties.
Lets be honest, forget potential for a moment, was he likely to be a key player in these final games?
It's not Wood and Westwood leaving for a close rival, its a fringe player leaving for the current Champions.
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| Quote ="Mutts"getting more like the dragons den this .
i have more of a rep for backing the club and teddy boy but we all have a limit . Something stinks a lot worse than the pitts saga . Players going on loan others on their way out at the end of the season all rumours of course but what i have said on this subject is what i know if that upsets some then you need to deal with the fact that the good ship wakey might be springing leaks .
like i said about the dragons den , im the 3rd mod out of this rebbs its all yours'"
No it's you claiming to know something and then claiming without proof that it is 100% correct. Then expecting folk like me to discount the words of Belly, TRB and PB people I know to be VERY VERY close to the club as wrong.
I think you are asking a lot, don't you.
Pitts has gone, end of.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Just been discussing that point
We have the 17 that played Leeds.
From that game we lost Latu which looked bad.
We lost Frank in the reserves
George is injured with a scratched retina.
We have Murphy and Hendo ready to step up. Thats a total squad of 18
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george injured now theres a suprise
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| Quote ="Haywire"So what (if anything) have you been told "from the horses mouth".... ?
If we know this then we can start to try make our own minds up on if we think the club has done the right thing or not.'"
like said earlier hes a couple of games away from appearance bonus , does nobody see the bigger picture ?? Bibb , Pitts , Rooney , Martin (Cas deffo) Drew (Cas Deffo) players on the sick .
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Because he wasn't 'poached' and a solution was reached that was benefical to all parties.
Lets be honest, forget potential for a moment, was he likely to be a key player in these final games?
It's not Wood and Westwood leaving for a close rival, its a fringe player leaving for the current Champions.'"
SPOT ON!
Leeds had a gap for a player like him, he was out of contract but most important he wanted to go - it was HIS choice.
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| Quote ="Mutts"like said earlier hes a couple of games away from appearance bonus , does nobody see the bigger picture ?? Bibb , Pitts , Rooney , Martin (Cas deffo) Drew (Cas Deffo) players on the sick .'"
Who's on the sick?
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| Quote ="vastman"No it's you claiming to know something and then claiming without proof that it is 100% correct. Then expecting folk like me to discount the words of Belly, TRB and PB people I know to be VERY VERY close to the club as wrong.
I think you are asking a lot, don't you.
Pitts has gone, end of.'"
i appreciate what your saying and i would never try to indicate that phil would ever tell an untruth not in his nature at all , you can only relay the info you are given and whilst say phil may get told things from the club at times its limited info.
to prove the point who knew about stanley ..........? yes phil did but only a couple of weeks before it went public
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Who's on the sick?'"
george , peterson's due a note .
if we suffer 2 inquires we are screwed with a possible playoff place we are offloading , i could understand this if it was Celtic but wheres the ambition?
im out of this as i taking my kids out i may be sometime
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| Quote ="Mutts"like said earlier hes a couple of games away from appearance bonus , does nobody see the bigger picture ?? Bibb , Pitts , Rooney , Martin (Cas deffo) Drew (Cas Deffo) players on the sick .'"
'The Graham Law Clause' again, but seriously, who is keeping him out of the squad?
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Because he wasn't 'poached' and a solution was reached that was benefical to all parties.
Lets be honest, forget potential for a moment, was he likely to be a key player in these final games?
It's not Wood and Westwood leaving for a close rival, its a fringe player leaving for the current Champions.'"
yeah very good point
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| Quote ="Mutts"
to prove the point who knew about stanley ..........? yes phil did but only a couple of weeks before it went public'" i think Phil knew a few months before the announcement
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