I’ve told you unless I missed his comment confirming he was leaving, all I read was a man trying to justify why he should remain because of his understanding of the IMG rating.

It’s a good interview and sounds we are alll over the IMG process and long term aim of a grade A. Yes it sad we’re looking like getting relegated but not end of the world especially if take over goes through. If all goes to plan we are/will be in a better position than a few clubs already in SL.

Up the Trin

I read that, made me realise we’re not that bad after all.

Up the Trin

You do know it was not a statement, but a series of journalist-edited responses to questions posed to him in interview?

It's getting tiresome explaining all this.

1) he and Carter have said on numerous occasions that they are looking to transfer ownership to Ellis.
2) he has a role of CEO in addition to shareholder.
It is up to Ellis not Minards who should be CEO in new setup. He can't block, hold on, remain or whatever the current word is unless he's asked to stay.
3) at the shareholders meeting someone asked if he would stay. He said he hadn't intended to but if asked he would help the club any way he could. It was then suggested by a member not him that he'd be useful to see the stadium projects through to the end.

Perhaps he’d like to say that but can’t because something - not necessarily somebody- is holding up the deal.
Silly comments made about either MC or JM holding up the deal
Are easy to make without a shred of evidence to support them.
JM has said all he can say- all of it seems to be for the benefit of the club!
Am I missing something or is there an obvious reason I cannot detect why either one would want to hold up the deal?

There is now an extended Q&A with jm on the yorkshire post (id had a link if i could)theres more in about the take over (if there is one)amongst other things worth a read you will agree and like some stuff and probally disagree with others.

Ellis will be waiting until relegation is confirmed before signing off (assuming that a deal is that close).
Ditto the club.
Can you imagine if the takeover was done and then a miracle happened in the last two rounds.
Unless all parties are willing to shake hands on the lower value of being a Championship club, and deal has to wait until our fate is sealed.
I know that the "fat lady" has been doing her warming up excercises but....

What an uninspiring load of tosh. Its no surprise that we are going backwards since this guy became involved. To paraphrase, " we are not fussed about this season because we think we might be ok on IMG ratings". Basically he an Carter have overseen a managed decline of the the onfield side of the club because they think we will be ok under IMG. What a defeatist attitude, the sooner we are rid of this fool the better and anybody lapping it up are part of the problem by enabling him.

Having read your statement Mr minnards, what are your plans to cover the 600 grand loss from this year with a big loss still to come, your plans to service the covid loan, your plans to service the stadium debt, buy a competitive team and also pay the bills. We've also had nearly 50 grand injected off the fans and carter's dad putting 300 grand in. What is going on at our club. Yes our club not yours. Just go now for the sake of the club.

Well at least he has come out and confirmed he wants to stay - what we all knew - the JM advocates on here swore blind that nobody was blocking the deal and scalded the naughty boys in the corner. But by saying "I want to stay for another 2 years" is just like saying "I'm not leaving" in some ways?. JM is playing a dangerous game both with the IMG points (it's a good year to get relegated, we should be right in 2025), and by trying to negotiate remaining in a Matt Ellis owned club. Notice JM guiding the narrative by saying that Ellis would have a role as CEO and be responsible for ......etc (inference being he would be responsible to possibly a JM led board). The language is a little arrogant for me, and clearly JM wrote both questions and answers. Has anyone heard of "Walter Mitty" on here?

Here we go again 2 plus 2 =5. - surely depends what capacity he wants to stay on in?
Just about everything you’ve posted there is your interpretation and could be well off the mark!

We have one season to get back into SL because for everyone after that the existing grade B clubs will have the additional revenue to develop their grounds and infrastructure to meet the IMG ratings.

You keep trying to find a way why it won't work but that bigger revenue will be going to their team not ground development I'm sure.

Why do you keep asking the same question when you don't understand the answers?

I thought that was a forking good interview… clear… factual… informative…

I have a lot of time for John Minards… but he has a much thicker skin than me… I would have told you all to rack off and do it yourselves!

oh I understand perfectly what's going on so don't insult my intelligence please. We've got no money

Just because he [idoes[/i, doesn't actually mean he [iwill[/i....
Why not wait and see what happens for a change....

I don't think I've seen something where he says he "wants" to stay.
However, once again.......staying to help as CEO or any other role at the club, is not the same as staying as shareholder. He has said he will transfer his shares.
The only offer on the table the last time it was discussed is for Ellis to take them all.
Minards staying to help at the club is not the same as blocking a takeover.
Completely separate discussions.

Look on the bright side because of them you no longer have to get up early to watch any live games because currently there is no deal to show the Championship. I am sure being a true supporter like you rather than those like me who you consider troublemakers will still buy a season ticket to support the club and the good work of the two incumbents despite your location. I have despite the fact that I knew that I would be unable to attend any games for the last two seasons.
It was clear we had reverted back to the year one plan, remove all high earners and sell those we can. We then go through an abject season of poor performances and results. We then bring in players towards the end of the season (cheaper). The advantage then was we had the play offs giving us a second chance of survival. The plan this season did not but we still followed the same pattern with the inevitable outcome.

Bit disingenuous that Pop Tart. I have not heard any member of the clubs directors advise what their plans are to finance the club if the sale to Matt Ellis does not go through. We do know that there was a £ 600,000 trading loss in 2022, directors have indicated that the trading loss for 2023 is likely to be higher than in 2022. We know that central funding in the Championship is less than £ 200,000. We do know that there are no parachute payments for the relegated club, we can assume that season ticket sales and shirt sales will be significantly reduced. We do know that the directors have committed to dual contracts with several players , Lino, Jowett, Ashurst, Pitts, Gale, Kay which will be a significant financial commitment. I see Wakefield fans on social media posting that the trading losses do not matter as all other clubs are losing money as well, but the other clubs have owners who cover the losses that is why Kan Davey`s loan to Huddersfield is rumoured to be in excess of £ 20,000,000. Without a backer putting money in to cover the losses then you just run out of cash. So it is perfectly reasonable to expect the directors to at least confirm what their plans are re financing the club going forward if the Matt Ellis deal does not go through.

My point being, when I've explained how the accounts work, I still get the same question a few days later.
The loss in particular is 2022, so has already been handled. It isn't something to now handle.
He implies having loans and donations are a bad thing, but they don't have to indicate us having no money, they just wanted more to make things easier.
The members donations of £1k and £500 were not desperation. If they hadn't had it, we just wouldn't have done the extras that we did do. It didn't go towards paying a tax bill or anything.

And why should they explain? No other board does with any other club. If they did, they'd just get more questions like the ones above.

Personally, think they are better keeping quiet and just sorting it our the best they can.

I remember saying years ago when Carter was on here and people started moaning. If you have someone willing to share and include you, and you then pick fault at every turn, you'll lose that access......which of course is exactly what happened.

In the context of "will you be staying on following the completion of the takeover" he said he'd love to see us through to getting the 15 IMG points. I didn't write the article, he did.

My point being, that isn't the same as him blocking the takeover or refusing to go.
That's him saying he would if asked, but it isn't his choice.

so basically you think we are in a great position to service the council loan, covid loan, put a competitive team on the field, pay their wages pay all our bills, whilst taking A significant cut in funding from sl, a drop in crowds, a drop in merchandise and a drop in sponsorship. I.never mentioned anything about loans being a bad thing at all. Interesting that people mention an asset, the stand, unless new supporters are attracted to our club then its just moving the current ones into it, also if you can't pay debt you usually sell the asset but we as a club can't sell the asset under the ground buy back so its pretty worthless realy. We're in a very difficult situation if these talks fail to complete this week.