Very grown up, yes I did forget but I’m sure he was gutted as I’m sure was everyone else involved

We have finally hit the 2,000. Support for the ground redevelopment application.

Comments Received: 2014 Objections: 10 Supporting: 2001
Let’s hope we don’t have to wait too long for the application to be heard at the planning meeting.

Not sure what the rolling eyes are all about when I gave you the benefit of the doubt by saying it was probably an oversight on your part, as for being very grown up I could very easily educate you on that score, assuming my post does not get deleted again

Yeah this in bold, every time I drive up Ashgap lane in Normy and it comes into view I end up shaking my head, if only we knew then what we do now?icon_sad.gif

No, you just carry on with your reminiscing, I like that

Yep, we tried and we were shafted and by we I mean everybody other than you know who.

In this life, a little rain must fall. You get back to your records, you're much safer with them

Could it be possible that one day everything that was said a swag meetings with box .RW etc be made public or is it too sensitive?

I wasn't at most of the later ones but basically its nothing that wasn't said on here through the years. Box can't be touched, he said a lot but promised nothing. What you want to know is what was said between Rodney Walker, YC and the Council, many of whose meetings SWAG was not in attendance. It goes pear shape when SWAG moved over to the Trust and lost control to RW. TRB and IA did there best but were constantly undermined and outflanked. It's those years where the damage was done and the chances of finding out what was said are nil unless it goes to court but that's just somewhere else to lie to these people.

MC and JM have got it about right now having finally got rid of Walker and co and having a stake via the ground. It's not much but it's better than before. As I say all at SWAG did our best but the club are ones to drive this forward now.

Being a part time supporter you must sit in envy at times when folk reminisce about the past on here

I'm many things but part-time isn't one. Missed roughly 15 matches in 30 years. Younger than you is clearly what I am

Well not if looks are anything to go by

You must be thinking of that pesky FC, a lot of people mistake him for an older version of me- apparently.

Regarding our planning application, is there anyone on here, that knows about how applications are listed for hearing at the council application meetings?.
I have looked at the January council meeting, there are 2 applications being heard.
One application received and validated 3rd March 2020. The other, received and validated July 2020.
If these are typical of waiting times, then I think we’ll be lucky if our application received 24th Nov, validated 16th Dec, is heard, let alone approved, before the end of the 2021 season. Therefore little chance of any work starting this year.

No idea, email the club, if MC can tell you he probably will, seems pretty open.

Usually a residential development, which is relatively more contentious, allows three months from submission to hearing. I guess that would be a good timescale to work on. As ever there are always delays and with planners and consultees working from home it may prolong matters.

As long as the club get all the required info bottomed out (phase 2 SI and remediation strategy to deal with the contamination for example) in a timely manner then it shouldn't take too long. Same with the NM application.

Constant chasing is required but they seem to have have instructed Pegasus who will push it.

Some dates to keep an eye out for:

Planning and Highways Committee

Thursday, 18th March 2021 10:00 am

Thursday, 15th April 2021 10:00am

Doesnt seem to be much scheduled after this.

Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Some dates to keep an eye out for: Planning and Highways Committee Thursday, 18th March 2021 10:00 am Thursday, 15th April 2021 10:00am Doesnt seem to be much scheduled after this.'" Also a meeting scheduled for February, can’t imagine being involved with that one. Meetings of the Committee are currently scheduled for 21 January; 11 February; 18 March and 15 April. Further meeting dates will be confirmed in due course. Kind regards Andrew Taylor Committee Team Manager Wakefield Council ataylor@wakefield.gov.uk Tel: 01924 305051 www.wakefield.gov.uk

Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Some dates to keep an eye out for: Planning and Highways Committee Thursday, 18th March 2021 10:00 am Thursday, 15th April 2021 10:00am Doesnt seem to be much scheduled after this.'" Also a meeting scheduled for February, can’t imagine being involved with that one. Meetings of the Committee are currently scheduled for 21 January; 11 February; 18 March and 15 April. Further meeting dates will be confirmed in due course. Kind regards Andrew Taylor Committee Team Manager Wakefield Council ataylor@wakefield.gov.uk Tel: 01924 305051 www.wakefield.gov.uk

Looking through the consultee responses for the upgrade works. Have to laugh at the Environmental Health one. Raising concerns about noise level with respect to the fan zone. Surely the 4k or so people in the actual stadium will make more noise.

Planning in the UK is utterly ludicrous. Don't know if you were at the meeting where Eric told us that the small metal bridge they wanted to build between the Cats Bar and the flats had been knocked back. The reason given was that Highways had objected on the grounds that it would increase parking congestion!!! Even though it wouldn't have increased the attendance by a single person, pure madness.

As far as I can tell is you will get planning permission only if the planning officer A: Had a great night out. B: Their love life just improved. C: They just like you. D: They have just received the keys for the BMW you just bought them.

Just to let you know what the concerns are of this particular pen pusher.

Name: Environmental Heath Wakefield Council
Address: Wakefield One, Burton Street, Wakefield WF1 2EB Email: Not Available
On Behalf Of: EH Priority Consultations
Comments
Whilst the overall purpose of the development site will not change with the redevelopment there are some areas of concern in respect of noise likely to adversely affect nearby residential occupiers.
I note that the plans show a fans zone located to the outside area of the east stand just behind the nearest residential properties on Doncaster Road. I have been unable to find any further information in the application about the intended use of this area and activities associated with the fans zone. However my understanding is that at many stadiums these areas are used as a gathering area prior to and during matches for fans to social, often drinking and/or with entertainments. Sometimes these fan zones are have facilities for fans without tickets to watch the matches via video screens. The type of activities which may take place have the potential to significantly adversely affect the residential occupiers due to noise. Noise source would include people noise: singing, shouting and amplified sound from video screenings and/or amplified music.
Whilst there is no specific information concerning this proposed fans zone I consider that noise just from the concentrated gathering of fans this area will result in unacceptable impact on the residents. Given the likely nature of the noise and the very close proximity to the residents I do not consider the problem could be reasonably resolved by mitigation at the boundary. I would strongly recommend that that the applicants reconsider the proposal for a fans zone. If this facility is necessary if should be more suitably relocated and proposals for noise mitigation provided.
The use of the exiting public address/sound amplification system at the stadium has been source of complaint to this service in the past. Can the applicants advise if the existing equipment is to be replaced or updated s part of the development.
Should the development be recommended for approval then conditions will be needed to ensure that residents are suitably protected from noise, odour and artificial lighting from activities at the site and noise and dust from demolition and construction. However before I provide any overall recommendation the issue of the fans zone needs resolving.

I doubt very much a video screen is provided for those fans without tickets to watch the game.
The Belle Vue Stadium has been there for nearly 150 years. Every person living on Doncaster road, knew the stadium was there before they bought their property. It’s like someone buying a house near a Church, built 200 years ago, then complaining about bells ringing.

The above was published today (28 jan)
This one below published 21jan. Wakefield Council can’t help themselves, just a load of.

Dear Michael,
Health Improvement
Consultation Response
18th January 2021
Belle Vue Stadium, Doncaster Road, Wakefield
East: 434593 North: 419462 20/02587/FUL
PROPOSAL:
Redevelopment of existing stadium comprising: Phase 1: demolition of existing east stand and replacement with 2-storey stand with 2,507 seated capacity and associated facilities, surfacing of car park, provision of fan zone, resurfacing of the pitch, upgrade to the existing floodlights, permanent electronic display screen and re-surfacing of existing north stand; Phase 2: provision of a gym within the refurbished “Rollin Shack”
We have reviewed the above application (20/02587/FUL), with a particular focus on the Health Impact Assessment (HIA) and would like make the following comments, observations and recommendations on behalf of the Wakefield Council Sport & Health Improvement Service and Public Health Department.
The council requires HIAs to be carried out and submitted for specific development schemes to ensure an appropriate and proportionate assessment is made of:
 the potential impacts on human health and wellbeing those schemes could have;
 the measures that could be put in place in order to minimise any negative impacts and maximise any positive impacts of those schemes.
We consider the submitted HIA (Appendix 6.1 of the Environmental Statement) demonstrates an appropriate and proportionate assessment of the potential impacts of this development has been made. We also consider that, for the majority of the HIA themes, the measures that could be put in place to minimise any negative and maximise any positive impacts of the development have been identified and assessed. There are a however themes where we consider some of the measures proposed in the HIA should go further. In light of this we would like to make the following recommendations.
Transport, Physical Activity, Air Quality and Noise.
Recommendation
We recommend Transport Plans covering the construction and operational phases of the proposed scheme be developed and adopted prior to the start of work on the site. These plan should outline how people, including staff and visitors to the site, will be encouraged to travel to the development using sustainable modes of travel including cycling, walking and public transport, rather than travelling by private car.
Rationale
The development is forecast to increase vehicle trips and associated parking on match days by 498. We acknowledge the submitted Transport Statement concludes car journeys generated from the proposed development “will not have an adverse impact on the local highway network.” However we consider than any increase in car journeys, even a small increase, has potential for negative health impacts and so should have robust mitigation measure in place.
We acknowledge and welcome the HIAs various recommendations intended to reduce car journeys and support people to travel to the site by more sustainable means, but feel these could and should go much further.
The Wakefield Local Development Framework Core Strategy Policy CS11 (Leisure,
Recreation and Open Space) states: “The provision of leisure and recreation facilities and open space will be of a scale appropriate to the type and size of settlement. Wherever possible those that attract large numbers of people will be located in the larger urban areas and be accessible by walking, cycling and public transport.”
NICE public health guidance 41 (p.9) states “Increasing how much someone walks or cycles may increase their overall level of physical activity, leading to associated health benefits.”
Recommendation
We recommend significant additional cycle parking capacity than that already present at the site is created as part of the development. With the option to explore a reduction of this provision if reviews during the 5-year monitoring period identify a significant surplus of capacity.
Rationale
We acknowledge the HIA states that this new development will retain existing cycling provision “so that those who wish to travel to the stadium by these modes are not discouraged by the lack of facilities to accommodate them.” The number of cycle spaces being reviewed during a 5-year monitoring period with further provision of spaces to be investigated should demand arise. However we find this approach somewhat disappointing and consider the scheme should instead seek to proactively encourage people to travel to the site by sustainable modes of transport such as cycling rather than simply aiming not to discourage those who already cycle.
Construction Impacts


Recommendation
We recommend a robust Construction Management plan is developed and adopted prior to the start of work on site in order to mitigate any negative construction impacts.
Rationale
The HIA acknowledges potential for a number of negative health impacts resulting from the construction phase of the development if effective mitigation measures are not put in place
Physical Activity / Sport
Recommendation
Wakefield’s current Playing Pitch Strategy highlights demand for more artificial pitches in the Wakefield Central area, therefore, we would support the proposed new artificial playing surface.
Rational
The Wakefield Local Development Framework Core Strategy Policy CS11 (Leisure, Recreation and Open Space) states that good quality, well maintained leisure, recreation and open space facilities will be secured to address identified deficiencies and meet the needs of local communities, particularly deprived groups. Key measures will be:
 Increased and improved facilities for health and fitness in central Wakefield
 Provision to address the needs of older people through increased indoor
facilities
 New stadia development particularly in Wakefield and Castleford
Section 3.3.30 of the Application Site and Proposed Development statement indicates that the playing area will be upgraded and a new 4G artificial pitch will be installed

Recommendation
We recommend the applicant adheres to the relevant pitch manufacturer’s usage recommendations. They should also refer to Sport England design guidance for sports pitches in addition to the Rugby Football League Performance and Construction Standards for Synthetic Turf Pitches.
Rationale
This will ensure that the correct surface and maintenance regime is delivered to accommodate the proposed level of use.
Conclusions
If the above recommendations are implemented together with those outlined in the HIA we consider the proposed development has the potential to have an overall positive impact on health and wellbeing, both locally and for the wider district.
Regards
Jack Birkby
Specialist Health Improvement Officer (Sports Development) Sport & Health Improvement
Wakefield Council
John Wilcox
Health Improvement Team Leader Sport & Health Improvement Wakefield Council

And we used to think Box was a bad guy.

Can't see anything to bad there at a quick glance, which bits are worrying you?

Looks like we will all have to buy a push bike or pay extortionate bus prices then

They ought to be giving Mc and Minards the keys to the city for what they are delivering for the good people of the city of Wakefield.

Nothing worrying, just a waste of time and energy of the consultee. The issue with planners they think everyone wants to cycle and are somehow forced under duress to drive a car. The saving grace is they will accept a reduction on the cycle parking if it isnt used.