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| Quote ="The Clan"It's not a bad plan mate but I thin the funding gap at Cas is more like £14Million!'"
Keep dreaming. The more you say it, the more you may believe it.
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| Quote ="Fully"Keep dreaming. The more you say it, the more you may believe it.'"
What is the funding gap then? Or is your massive announcement that you have all the funds available?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"What is the funding gap then? Or is your massive announcement that you have all the funds available?'"
There is no funding gap. All the pieces of funding are there, it's just accessing them all. The PROBIZ Coliseum is our single, most valuable asset and we don't want to/need to sell it on the cheap just because we have to build a new stadium.
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| Wakefields new stadium needs to be in the Wakefield City boundries for the club to reach it's potential whether Newmarket or queens drive the old power station or where ever. If we ever got involved in GH it would be the start of the end of the club it would not benefit us at all Wakefield need to play in Wakefield long term. Regarding Newmarket with it going to be a year until the decission a good plan B would be Queens Drive with Ossett Town selling Stade France to Tesco they are looking to relocate there if we were involved we could build a bigger stadium there plus it was reported Wakefield Fc are been chucked out of College Grove they could be involved too only an idea but we need a back up incase the community Stadium at if NM doesnt get permission
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| Quote ="Fully"There is no funding gap. All the pieces of funding are there, it's just accessing them all. The PROBIZ Coliseum is our single, most valuable asset and we don't want to/need to sell it on the cheap just because we have to build a new stadium.'"
So are you waiting a while to sell wheldon Rd then or looking for buyers at the moment I'd have thought you would have needed the money Asap to get GH started. Do you know if wheldon rd has any charges on it there's a cas fan at work who says there's at least 4 charges to pay on it. I told him that can't be true can it?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"So are you waiting a while to sell wheldon Rd then or looking for buyers at the moment I'd have thought you would have needed the money Asap to get GH started. Do you know if wheldon rd has any charges on it there's a cas fan at work who says there's at least 4 charges to pay on it. I told him that can't be true can it?'"
You're asking questions I don't know the answers to re: Coliseum.
Ben Bailey Homes are still tied into the original deal and have until October to make their minds up whether they want to buy it.
But as it's a prime bit of land, there will be other buyers interested, I have no doubt.
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| Quote ="Fully"But as it's a prime bit of land, there will be other buyers interested, I have no doubt.'"
With the price of fuel these days I'm surprised someone doesn't buy Wheldon Lane just to recover the hydrocarbon fallout from when Hick-up and Belch were operational.
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| The more I think about it the more I think the line of "GH would be the beginning of the end" is an out dated mind frame & one not in line with how we appear to be run now.
Take marketing for instance; under the old regime yes it would have been. Because our marketing and PR were non-existent.
Not anymore. We are being run like a business and very clear signs are already there to see and have been noted.
Having a long term 50% stake would give us both a fresh start in modern surroundings. With half the costs. Meaning (if run correctly) more money to spend on other areas.
Our hardcore travel far and wide GH isn't much further than NM. If done tastefully (i.e half red white and blue seats and stand and half in black and amber or a neutral colour) and ownership wasn't held in majority by a single group (50/50) I'm starting to think this is a very viable option.
The only huge downside is that GH doesn't come with anywhere near to standard of design of stadium & the lacks the additional training and education facilities when compared to NM.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"If done tastefully (i.e half red white and blue seats and stand and half in black and amber or a neutral colour) and ownership wasn't held in majority by a single group (50/50) I'm starting to think this is a very viable option.'"
There's nothing "tasteful" about a stadium painted red white and blue on one side and black and amber on another. Has home improvement tv taught you nothing?
As for the rest - just as daft, IMO.
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| 95% of Wakefield fans would not support Trinity Playing in Castleford
95% of Castleford fans would not support Castleford playing in Wakefield
95% of both sets of fans woould not support a merged team
So whay the hell are we still having this debate?
(figures are estimated)
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| Quote ="spook2011"95% of Wakefield fans would not support Trinity Playing in Castleford
95% of Castleford fans would not support Castleford playing in Wakefield
95% of both sets of fans woould not support a merged team
So whay the hell are we still having this debate?
(figures are estimated)'"
Well, to be fair, Castleford does play in Wakefield as Cas is in Wakey but I get your point
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| Quote ="spook2011"95% of Wakefield fans would not support Trinity Playing in Castleford
95% of Castleford fans would not support Castleford playing in Wakefield
95% of both sets of fans woould not support a merged team
So whay the hell are we still having this debate?
(figures are estimated)'"
I think its higher than 95% but totaly agree.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"The more I think about it the more I think the line of "GH would be the beginning of the end" is an out dated mind frame & one not in line with how we appear to be run now.
Take marketing for instance; under the old regime yes it would have been. Because our marketing and PR were non-existent.
Not anymore. We are being run like a business and very clear signs are already there to see and have been noted.
Having a long term 50% stake would give us both a fresh start in modern surroundings. With half the costs. Meaning (if run correctly) more money to spend on other areas.
Our hardcore travel far and wide GH isn't much further than NM. If done tastefully (i.e half red white and blue seats and stand and half in black and amber or a neutral colour) and ownership wasn't held in majority by a single group (50/50) I'm starting to think this is a very viable option.
The only huge downside is that GH doesn't come with anywhere near to standard of design of stadium & the lacks the additional training and education facilities when compared to NM.'"
Not a chance for me. I travel 'far and wide' but home games in cas are a total non starter, outdated or not.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I think its higher than 95%
but totaly agree.'"
This is what people like Phil Clarke and Ian Millward don't understand when they go spouting off about us merging. Add our crowds together and you would have a decent sized gate, but the reality is that 95% plus would simply stop going. I would be one of them.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"This is what people like Phil Clarke and Ian Millward don't understand when they go spouting off about us merging. Add our crowds together and you would have a decent sized gate, but the reality is that 95% plus would simply stop going. I would be one of them.'"
I can see that future generations who don't have the two clubs seperate loyalties may take to a merged side, but i doubt it would survive in the short term and those above mentioned don't care about the fans.
If that makes me a dinosaur then fair enough i'll have to live with it, its nothing to do with not liking Cas, its purley down to identity and what makes me a fan of Trinity.
I don't think they understand the rivalry that exist between Wakey,Cas and Fev, go watch some junior RL Clarky in and around the area and try to keep your eyes open. Milward, well imo he's a waste of a skin.
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| Quote ="spook2011"95% of Wakefield fans would not support Trinity Playing in Castleford
95% of Castleford fans would not support Castleford playing in Wakefield
95% of both sets of fans woould not support a merged team
So whay the hell are we still having this debate?
(figures are estimated)'"
this question should be directed to the sky panel on boots and all, its almost like we are being forced by a tyrannic regime that you will do as we say
after the farce of the Leeds try on saturday is probably why I'm not enjoying watching the games any more on tv
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| A community shared stadium would only work if it was in the middle of the WMDC a shared stadium at GH would only benefit cas. If the stadium was built in Ossett would cas want to play there? It wouldn't benefit them in any way and that the same with us and GH. Continue with NM or a plan b within the City boundries if we moved to GH it would be the end of Wakefield trinity fr me
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"A community shared stadium would only work if it was in the middle of the WMDC a shared stadium at GH would only benefit cas. If the stadium was built in Ossett would cas want to play there? It wouldn't benefit them in any way and that the same with us and GH. Continue with NM or a plan b within the City boundries if we moved to GH it would be the end of Wakefield trinity fr me'"
Newmarket is in neutral location. It's 4 miles from Wakey and Cas town centres and certainly fair distance from the bulk of our supporter base. Newmarket is not even in the traditional City boundaries. It's not the ideal location for a ground representing our City but considering all other options have been exhausted it's best we can do. We as a club have compromised, Castleford as a club haven't, for them its in the Cas boundaries or nothing! Basically Richard Wright wants his cake and eat it. Glasshoughton is on Castlefords doorstep and located right on the edge of there supporter base. Where would the compromise be on Cas Tigers part if we were to play at Glasshoughton?
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| The compromise on their part is that they have done the groundwork for the project and would have to sell a substantial stake (50%) in order to raise the required funds.
We would have a home & the associated security in terms of owning a share in the stadium which we could then sell if/when we moved on.
All I'm saying is that this needs considering.
GH is within our city limits & could be just a matter of marketing.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"The compromise on their part is that they have done the groundwork for the project and would have to sell a substantial stake (50%) in order to raise the required funds.
We would have a home & the associated security in terms of owning a share in the stadium which we could then sell if/when we moved on.
All I'm saying is that this needs considering.
GH is within our city limits & could be just a matter of marketing.'"
GH is in the District not in the City its a non starter from my point of view early days when it could have been a community facility and shared OK but Cas decided long ago it was theirs, as far as i am concerned its theirs I would rather watch Stanley rangers than go to GH
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"The compromise on their part is that they have done the groundwork for the project and would have to sell a substantial stake (50%) in order to raise the required funds.
We would have a home & the associated security in terms of owning a share in the stadium which we could then sell if/when we moved on.
All I'm saying is that this needs considering.
GH is within our city limits & could be just a matter of marketing.'"
Are you for real? if Wakefield move to GH it would be the end for Wakefield, like deehell said new market is a compromise half way between the 2 towns, GH is not within our city limits its too near to Castleford, I for 1 would not travel to watch Wakefield in cas and i think alot of wakey fans wouldn't too, it just would not work from a business point of view. As for ground work what exactly have they done? shifted abit of muck around? not bad in 5 years eh?
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"The compromise on their part is that they have done the groundwork for the project and would have to sell a substantial stake (50%) in order to raise the required funds.
We would have a home & the associated security in terms of owning a share in the stadium which we could then sell if/when we moved on.
All I'm saying is that this needs considering.
GH is within our city limits & could be just a matter of marketing.'"
Our compromise would be not having any pro sports teams or facilities based in wakefield and would alienate our fanbase. As for GH been in the City limits shut up Richard wright.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"This is what people like Phil Clarke and Ian Millward don't understand when they go spouting off about us merging. Add our crowds together and you would have a decent sized gate, but the reality is that 95% plus would simply stop going. I would be one of them.'"
The point they miss is that during the years that no one identified with the merged entity the profile of rugby league in Wakefield & Castleford would diminish to an almost unrecoverable extent.
Phil Clarke loves to wax lyrical about the Wigan/Leigh area's talent production but the Wakefield, Featherstone & Castleford area is just as productive. If the sports profile were to drop then that production would be damaged almost beyond repair. Dads stop taking kids to games, players no longer visit schools, stories don,t get published, community officers stop reaching out etc etc.
Young kids stop looking to Rugby League for heroes and stop trying to emulate Neil Fox, David Topliss, Nigel Bell, Billy Conway, Garen Casey, David March, Gareth Ellis & Aaron Murphy. As a consequence amateur clubs can't find the players and before you know it they no longer run an under 7s team, under 11s etc which means the next crop of exciting juniors doesn't emerge and we miss out on the next Sam Burgess because in the absence of rugby league he chose athletics or football.
Rugby League as a sport isn't that rich in talent production and the RFLs policy is coming dangerously close to killing the Goose that lays the golden egg.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"The compromise on their part is that they have done the groundwork for the project and would have to sell a substantial stake (50%) in order to raise the required funds.
We would have a home & the associated security in terms of owning a share in the stadium which we could then sell if/when we moved on.
All I'm saying is that this needs considering.
GH is within our city limits & could be just a matter of marketing.'"
No its not even worth considering. It would be the beginning of the end of Wakefield Trinity and would pretty much convince various important parties that Newmarket doesn't have to happen and thus never will.
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