But it is not Box who is making this decision. Both clubs have been party to the discussion and it would seem agreed to co-operate.

An INDEPENDENT feasibility study is going to look at which is best. If it comes back that GH is the best, who are you going to blame then?

15000+ sigs and 1000 plus jobs at Newmarket could all go down the pan, then they will pull out of the "new pool" with the old "no money line" makes you wonder how this council works behind closed doors.

But as a shared stadium J32 wouldn't be "yours", neither would it be "ours".
J32 is still in Wakefield at the end of the day.

Anyway in terms of what each site brings to the region Newmarket wins hands down!

YES he can

You are obviously not aware how things are run. I have had first hand experience many times. This council is run by a cabinet ( about 6 or 7 councillors). The cabinet make every decision and the wider council have no influence or input. All they can do is mention their concern at council meetings but the cabinet just sit there hard faced and ignore them.

Now here is the clever bit. The cabinet get paid extra money and benefits. The councillors are queing up to get on it. Box picks every member of the cabinet and sacks anyone who he dosn't like.No democracy here, everyone is hand chosen by box. The cabinet therefore do everything he tells them. Go along and see it work for yourself. I wish many more people from Wakefield would then maybe they would not be so dumb by continuing to allow Box to ruin our city.

Box has been running our City for years and he thinks he is untouchable and while ever he can get all his support from the old miming areas to the East of the district he will do whatever he wants and no wakefield councillor can do anything about it.

The problem with independent feasibility studies is that quite often the outcome is detemined by whoever commissions the study - he who pays the piper. Would you be happy if Ted Richardson commissions the feasibilty study ?

Well, the whole independent process means that the research will be done on an impartial basis and then given to those who commission it, not altered to suit one party over the other.

The jobs would not go down the pan as the rest of the newmarket development could still go ahead, with some other community scheme put in by the developers and as for the 15000 sigs, Wakefield =#FF0000district would still be getting a new stadium and facilities at glasshoughton.

Everyone happy

You really think that do you?

IMO, GH would bring more - it would bring jobs to the region - just as Newmarket. It has BETTER transport links, is right next to one of the most visited attractions in the UK and will bring a lot of business and prosperity to the region.

As Gaz said on the Cas forum:

He would not be able to pay the piper

The 15000 sigs

they were[u signed for the Newmarket complex[/u not for GH, can you understand that or would you like pictures to help you.

So all this ....."once planning permission is achieved, this will [itrigger [/ithe funding" ....was complete and utter rubbish. Yet more mis-information from the people "in the know".

We were all lead to believe that the funding was already in place - that is patently not the case.

We were all told categorically that the developer, Yorkcourt, would be funding the stadium - again, this was not true.

It appears that significant alternative sources of funding will have to be found - just how easy does anyone think that will be right now?

Lets just pretend that Yorkcourt do get the planning permission they want (and remember, as a commercial developer they do not [iwant[/i planning permission for a stadium, that is just a required sweetener for the council in order to get the industrial aspect of the scheme passed). Then they decide that, in this difficult economic climate, they can't afford to stump up the money for the stadium straight away. And the amount required to "top-up" their input (which has still not been quantified) cannot be sourced. What then? No-one can force them to build anything, yet they will have secured a very valuable site for development at a later date when it suits them.

It seems that the SWAG people are being outmanouvered (again) by the council. That's not a criticism, because WMDC are absolutely top drawer at all this schemeing and double-dealing stuff. But just like the Thornes Park fiasco, I have no doubt that this project will never be delivered.

I await more "[ikeep the faith[/i", "[iit WILL happen[/i" , "[iwell if you think you could do better[/i" posts, which in my opinion achieve nothing apart from reassuring those who want to be reassured, and antagonising those who want proper answers.


The 150000 signatures were in support of a new stadium, not in support of a massive industrial complex. I signed it, obviously, but at the time nothing was said to me about a wider development.

In the current climate if you have to share a stadium so be it. RL is a minority sport and dont forget the vast majority of the country dont give two hoots about Wakefield Trinity Wildcats..........sadly this is a fact.

Share the Stadium and save your club.

Good luck either way as much as it pains me to say Rugby League without Wakefield Trinity is worse off.

I just wish there was more [itime[/i. Then both clubs and fans could sit down and work on this together and with The RFL's blessing, get it done properly in the best interests of both clubs.

I find it sad that this has come out a few days before the game.

Trinity have been in SL long enough to address the stadium issues - the RFL have given us enough warnings, surely. Any half-competent management team would have realised the importance of dealing with this. The problems we now face on this front are of the clubs own making. We cannot moan about not having sufficient time.


I also do not believe that the management of either club is capable of sitting down with the other and discussing, in a sensible and mature way, a realistic way forward. Simply too much ego to be bruised.

Wherever it is, it's commonsense. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 6423567.jp

Wherever it is, it's commonsense. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/r ... 6423567.jp

It sounds a good argument. It [iis[/i a good argument. But (unless we're being fobbed off with this too) the Newmarket development will bring an estimated 1,000 jobs to the area. 1,000 people off the dole queue, earning a living, paying taxes, spending their money in the district... Not to be sniffed at, compared with upsurge in weekend tourism because Cas are playing at home. Glasshoughton already attracts these people, don't forget.

That's for the whole development. How long will the whole development take to build? 1 year, 5 years, 10 years?

Lets face it, what is the priority? A stadium for both teams - nothing more, nothing less. Right now, at this present moment in time GH is the logical solution. I know Wakey fans won't want to hear it and I don't like saying it but it is. Why?

- Outline planning permission. Designs available soon and full planning permission can be applied for before Wakefield even get a decision back on outline planning permission.

- Solves disputes with the "NIMBYs" as your fans refer to them and Leeds Council.

- Better transport links and stuff that has already been solved. As I recall, there are issues with Newmarket in this regard.

- It's still in the Wakefield district. You lot keep saying Cas is part of Wakefield, so therefore, that makes a suitable argument for you to groundshare at Glasshoughton.

- Jobs will still be created - 1500 in fact, at Glasshoughton.

Looks like a shared stadium then.

Absolutely - there have been years in which this issue could have been resolved and yet we find ourselves literally down to the wire; incompetence, bordering on negligence in my view.

The statement from the club is bland and content-free; safe to say it's not meant to tell fans anything new, but is a public response to Coun Box's move to back WTW into a corner in terms of the groundshare. Worrying times, since we don't have a particularly good record of going up against Box and co.

That looks like the only way forward, at least for Trinity. We may find that Box & co. have actually forced us to do what's in our clubs best interests. If he is so virulantly anti-Trinity, as many on here suggest, he could easily have released the Thornes Park refusal decision before the last round of licence decisions were made, thereby getting us kicked out of SL. By waiting a few weeks to release the decision, he effectively kept us in SL.

I suppose there is nothing in principle to stop us continuing with the Newmarket project, but with the withdrawal of the WMDC land-lending agreement in September, Yorkcourt will, I assume, drop the application?

GH is hard to stomach for some/many I know, but one way to look at it is we would be playing in a superb purpose-built stadium, in Wakefield, as Trinity.

Well said

Reading that article and Box's comments, it seems clear that the decision is already made. What kind of feasibility study would conclude that Newmarket (no planning permission, in fact not even close , plus no funding package confirmed) is a better bet than Glasshoughton?

Why do the club not embrace this opportunity, rather than be forced into it kicking and screaming. We can make it into what we want. Jesus, we even have Cas fans saying they would go to watch Trin if there was no Cas match on. It's all a bit, dare I say it, positive.....

Surely it's easier and more profitable to get on board and actively shape the way our club evolves, rather than be tossed by the four winds in the manner we have put up with for so long?

We have to adapt or die.

CAS aint that big...... what a extra 5mins onto it.

I think a challenge cup semi final saved us at that time.

I think the whole distance from here/there is a smokescreen. People will travel to watch Trinity. How many hard-core fans go to every home game and most away games too? I see the same faces home and away, week in week out - I cannot and do not believe they will simply stop going because it is a 4 or 5 mile drive further to Glasshoughton. The hard-core will be largely retained, plus new supporters will be drawn in by the promise of the new stadium - wasn't that one of the main plus-points to Trinity getting a new stadium? We have a chance here to increase our revenues and fanbase.

We can spin this ground share as a disaster if we wish, or we can embrace it and make it a massive success.


NGBFC - I agree, the Cup semi had some effect on keeping us up. To be honest, I had forgotten all about it - still haunted by that first 20 minutes.......