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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"so true , we fell apart when he was off the field at KR.....oh hang on
Cooke will be fine all be it a different kind o0ff player but if king kear can wave his magic wand i think we are gonna get the very best out off Cooke.'"
Whilst I do agree with what you are saying regarding the game against Hull KR, that is just one game. I do think we are a poorer team for losing him, I hope he can be replaced with another specialist 7.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Whilst I do agree with what you are saying regarding the game against Hull KR, that is just one game. I do think we are a poorer team for losing him, I hope he can be replaced with another specialist 7.'"
Of course we are poorer in the short term, but the reality is that Brough is no good to us if not committed. so yes we will need to compensate and players step forward but far from shafted. We have never been a one man team but it will take time to adjust.
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| It appears as if Danny has been playing us off against against Huddersfield regarding offers for a good while.
Nobody seems to have mentioned that Hudds are not allowed to offer him anything till the deadline in June/July (or whenever it is, can't quite remenber) unless we give them permission - which we obviously didn't seeing as we were doing our very best to persuade him to sign a new contract.
Could this be why we are in a strong negotiating position ... ?
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"It appears as if Danny has been playing us off against against Huddersfield regarding offers for a good while.
Nobody seems to have mentioned that Hudds are not allowed to offer him anything till the deadline in June/July (or whenever it is, can't quite remenber) unless we give them permission - which we obviously didn't seeing as we were doing our very best to persuade him to sign a new contract.
Could this be why we are in a strong negotiating position ... ?
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| Quote ="vastman"Simple, no point having a player on board who doesn't want to play for you. Even with the most grounded of players that is hugely disruptive, in the case of a big personality like Brough it could be a disaster. Players are people and once you are compromised as in any job it's over. It was just about plausible to believe Ellis would have played his contract out but not Brough. He's far too abrasive to do that, just think you are a player, you have committed to the club for two years and you get a volley of abuse from a player who's already got a massive contract sorted elsewhere - nah.
Broughy been a great player and I thank him for that and wish him well but he is now damaged goods for us.'"
Thats what I think and I also think we should get money/player(s) for an asset before it depriciates to nothing.
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| Whilst losing a great talent I feel like he is a bad influence. How he treated Morton on friday was a disgrace the pass was behind him and he turned away shaking his head and muttering to himself. He did this all threw the game and against the Giants. Morton the 1st 4 games he was exceptional he saved us tries and scored some hard ones. Its the lads first proper season in the first team and by no coincidence his form has now dropped and for me its probably because Danny is being a complete idiot with him. As a senior player of the team like Danny is, I think his behaviour the last 2 games is a disgrace he should be patting the lad on his back saying unlucky (help building his confidence) Instead of taking it away! We played better friday without MR BIGTIME on the field ! IF he does not want to sign we have offered him more than any other trin player in history. Fair enough let him go I don't blame Ted only thing is we should have got rid at the start of season and got a replacement. Brough won't be happy at Shudds as Brown won't take the crap that we have. Believe me. Brough = ££££££ bad egg
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| Quote ="vastman"Of course we are poorer in the short term, but the reality is that Brough is no good to us if not committed. so yes we will need to compensate and players step forward but far from shafted. We have never been a one man team but it will take time to adjust.'"
Vasty, I would argue that he is/was definately comitted to playing well for us. Whether that was for 'market value' I do not know.
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"
Could this be why we are in a strong negotiating position ... ?
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50 quid and a packet of pork scratchings it is then
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Whilst losing a great talent I feel like he is a bad influence. How he treated Morton on friday was a disgrace the pass was behind him and he turned away shaking his head and muttering to himself. He did this all threw the game and against the Giants. Morton the 1st 4 games he was exceptional he saved us tries and scored some hard ones. Its the lads first proper season in the first team and by no coincidence his form has now dropped and for me its probably because Danny is being a complete idiot with him. As a senior player of the team like Danny is, I think his behaviour the last 2 games is a disgrace he should be patting the lad on his back saying unlucky (help building his confidence) Instead of taking it away! We played better friday without MR BIGTIME on the field ! IF he does not want to sign we have offered him more than any other trin player in history. Fair enough let him go I don't blame Ted only thing is we should have got rid at the start of season and got a replacement. Brough won't be happy at Shudds as Brown won't take the crap that we have. Believe me. Brough = ££££££ bad egg'"
seriously has your account been hijacked
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Vasty, I would argue that he is/was definately comitted to playing well for us. Whether that was for 'market value' I do not know.'"
It not so much Broughs attitude but that of his team mates, the dynamics of a RL are fairly delicate - for me it's not worth the risk I'd rather move on.
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| Quote ="PONNER"50 quid and a packet of pork scratchings it is then
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Is that Crabtrees valuation?
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| Could even be that Shudders didn't really want him till next season but we've now said something to the effect of "you want him, you've got him now!"
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"Could even be that Shudders didn't really want him till next season but we've now said something to the effect of "you want him, you've got him now!"
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What may come out of this via recompense may be less then a potential increase in salary on the open market.
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| cant see how it can benifit the club to lose the best player danny would have been worth bout 8 pts more come end of season and i dont know what it will do to the crowds but the could drop.i honestly cant see us adding anybody to replace him(cooke is for newton-if he comes)
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| Quote ="cats gone mad"cant see how it can benifit the club to lose the best player danny would have been worth bout 8 pts more come end of season and i dont know what it will do to the crowds but the could drop.i honestly cant see us adding anybody to replace him(cooke is for newton-if he comes)'"
A totally dedicated Brough for the rest of the season would possibly be worth 8 points more. However, a distracted Brough may be worth 8 points less. There are too many variables to predict such out comings accurately. Who would’ve thought that Trinity would recoup a vital 12 points whilst down to 12 men without Brough on the field last Friday.
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| Quote ="cats gone mad"cant see how it can benifit the club to lose the best player danny would have been worth bout 8 pts more come end of season and i dont know what it will do to the crowds but the could drop.i honestly cant see us adding anybody to replace him(cooke is for newton-if he comes)'"
And young Davey is not in the equation ?
If Brough won't accept, and it appears from the Wakefield Trinity statement that he won't, then he may as well be away.
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| Quote ="Pilchard"And young Davey is not in the equation ?
If Brough won't accept, and it appears from the Wakefield Trinity statement that he won't, then he may as well be away.'"
Tbh I think he means in terms of wages, Davy's wages were taken into account when Newton was here
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| I also was in the keep him until the end of the season camp, but as some have already said - if his hearts not in carrying on playing for us he will be a negative.
If we get any players in exchange they are obviously going to be in different areas of the squad than the halves. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any of the Giants players that I would want that they would be prepared to let us have.
Also not sure a pure cash deal suits us if there is nobody to spend it on.
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| Maybe Brough's salary is best kept for next season. There is no-one available with sufficient quality this year so no point wasting it on an inferier quick fix.
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| With money in the cap/bank we can wait and see.
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| Quote ="vastman"Simple, no point having a player on board who doesn't want to play for you. Even with the most grounded of players that is hugely disruptive, in the case of a big personality like Brough it could be a disaster. Players are people and once you are compromised as in any job it's over. It was just about plausible to believe Ellis would have played his contract out but not Brough. He's far too abrasive to do that, just think you are a player, you have committed to the club for two years and you get a volley of abuse from a player who's already got a massive contract sorted elsewhere - nah.
Broughy been a great player and I thank him for that and wish him well but he is now damaged goods for us.'"
As I said, I don’t know D.B from Adam, and, if that’s the case, then yes, ship him out pronto. There should be no benevolence from the club, especially if it’s not reciprocated.
We maybe losing a class S.H, but I would have thought there will be more harmony in the camp, especially the young-un’s, who need guidance & encouragement from the senior players, not berating them.
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