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| Quote ="PopTart"That's not true. Ellis wasn't looking for a move. He explained that on his podcast.'"
He wasn’t looking for a move whilst under contract but he had no intention of staying when it expired. The club decided to let him go a year early in order to benefit from what turned out to be a transfer fee which he was happy to accept.
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| Quote ="vastman"On a fishing trip again belly.
He’s a bang average player, let him be so he can enjoy his career.'"
He is not an average player that is your opinion, I know this feeds your need to absolve the club of a possible error in letting him go.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"He wasn’t looking for a move whilst under contract but he had no intention of staying when it expired. The club decided to let him go a year early in order to benefit from what turned out to be a transfer fee which he was happy to accept.'"
So not what you said then.
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| Quote ="vastman"Do you say the same about Tom Johnstone? Ditto Reece or Max this year, Tupou? Where does it stop. He picked up a legitimate injury, it’s how it goes, there is no conspiracy.'"
Difference is we signed a well known sick note and let a decent player go.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Difference is we signed a well known sick note and let a decent player go.'"
Yet this decent player couldn't get another club.
After 5 rounds can still only get a trial.
So I'm not sure we made such a bad decision.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"He is not an average player that is your opinion, I know this feeds your need to absolve the club of a possible error in letting him go.'"
Absolves, typically huge assumption from yourself that the is anything to absolve. But hey don’t let that disrupt your agenda.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Difference is we signed a well known sick note and let a decent player go.'"
So Ryan never got injured?
How is Gaskell a sick note, either the medical staff say he’s injured or he isn’t. Or are you calling Gaskell a liar.
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| A better term might have been 'injury prone'.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Yet this decent player couldn't get another club.
After 5 rounds can still only get a trial.
So I'm not sure we made such a bad decision.'"
Wrong again poppy he's signed untill the end of the season, in Rocky's place we signed an injury prone player who could'nt finish his 1st game a player to cover fullback and half back and because of his injury we now have no cover at fullback, so we have to get a player in on loan and have to pay more wages! Great bit of business, lets see at the end of the season who ends up with the better deal us or cas.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Wrong again poppy he's signed untill the end of the season, in Rocky's place we signed an injury prone player who could'nt finish his 1st game a player to cover fullback and half back and because of his injury we now have no cover at fullback, so we have to get a player in on loan and have to pay more wages! Great bit of business, lets see at the end of the season who ends up with the better deal us or cas.'"
The op said it was a trial. I don't have the inside Cas knowledge you have.
If he's contracted to the end of the season then good for him.
I rate him. I just don't think he's the messiah some think he is.
Edit: the only article I can find about him says he's on a one month trial.
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| Quote ="PopTart"The op said it was a trial. I don't have the inside Cas knowledge you have.
If he's contracted to the end of the season then good for him.
I rate him. I just don't think he's the messiah some think he is.
Edit: the only article I can find about him says he's on a one month trial.'"
Take it from me he's signed Cas have players from this side of the big hill you know.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Take it from me he's signed Cas have players from this side of the big hill you know.'"
You seem to be the only one that knows that. Even Cas Forum is discussing it as a one month trial.
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| I have been a fan of Hampshire over the seasons… but I don’t follow players, I follow my team… and he’s not one of us anymore … and If he’s a Cas player now… I hope he helps get them relegated… though I would prefer it to be Leeds
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Wrong again poppy he's signed untill the end of the season, in Rocky's place we signed an injury prone player who could'nt finish his 1st game a player to cover fullback and half back and because of his injury we now have no cover at fullback, so we have to get a player in on loan and have to pay more wages! Great bit of business, lets see at the end of the season who ends up with the better deal us or cas.'"
Go support Cas then and take a few others with you if one player matters that much.
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| Quote ="vastman"Go support Cas then and take a few others with you if one player matters that much.'"
Now now don’t throw an hissy fit because someone dares to question your blind loyalty. This even includes the floodlight which the majority said was dark but not good old Vastman who saw nothing wrong.
I can’t believe you are resorting to the why don’t you go and support whoever and you want them to take more with them. I don’t think that sort of attitude will endear you to the club, after all they need the income. If this outlook was applied to every negative voice on match day you would be one lonely individual.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Now now don’t throw an hissy fit because someone dares to question your blind loyalty. This even includes the floodlight which the majority said was dark but not good old Vastman who saw nothing wrong.
I can’t believe you are resorting to the why don’t you go and support whoever and you want them to take more with them. I don’t think that sort of attitude will endear you to the club, after all they need the income. If this outlook was applied to every negative voice on match day you would be one lonely individual.'"
Is that what it is nice try.
As per floodlights, no I didn’t but I’m absolutely certain the moment somebody else mentioned it you did. Just a thought.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You have been told this before from several sources, YES it was. I am now beginning to worry about you repeating the same answered questions.'"
It was a genuine question, one which hasn't been repeated before by myself therefore it's never been answered before, so your worry is needless and unfounded, thanks for the concern
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| Quote ="Two Points"A better term might have been 'injury prone'.'"
I stand corrected
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| Quote ="vastman"Is that what it is
nice try.
As per floodlights, no I didn’t but I’m absolutely certain the moment somebody else mentioned it you did. Just a thought.'"
He wasn't even at the game, yet he can still find time for a sarcastic comment.
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| How do you know I wasn’t at the game or do you go around the ground trying to find someone who will talk to you and I wasn’t where you expected me to be.
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| Quote ="vastman"Is that what it is
nice try.
As per floodlights, no I didn’t but I’m absolutely certain the moment somebody else mentioned it you did. Just a thought.'"
That’s strange so it was not you who posted that the lightning looked okay to you. I think someone must be using your account to post.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"How do you know I wasn’t at the game or[u do you go around the ground trying to find someone who will talk to you and I wasn’t where you expected me to be[/u.'"
Don't you find it a little absurd that I would go round the ground looking for someone to talk to me about you? when only a couple of people who have actually heard of you never mind seen you, might I just remind you, you are after all the scarlet pimpernel.
Fwiw it was your golfing mate what said you weren't there if that helps, he also mentioned you'd got a new gnome for the front garden and you now call it de Pfeffel.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"That’s strange so it was not you who posted that the lightning looked okay to you. I think someone must be using your account to post.'"
Why?
It did look ok to me so yes I did post that, I'll post it a thousand times if you'd like. I'm not disputing others saw it differently, I'm saying from where I stood it looked ok, why is that a difficult concept. Look up the word 'perception', my perception on the night was that things looked OK. On the SKY coverage, it looks iffy, but that's irrelevant to what I say and saw perfectly well on the night at the ground.
Would you like to borrow my glasses, although as I suspect you only saw the event on the TV they won't help?
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| It's all about subjective values.
He's an extremely capable utility player and a good asset to have, for that reason. The club has a certain valuation of him, I presume, which doesn't match his own or those closest to him. It doesn't mean either is wrong, as the Wakey value is affected by the ability to pay, whereas other clubs may have more room on the cap or the till to offer him what he feels is his market value.
His market value might be worth more than what we were prepared to pay, if there was to be a discussion, and Cas might pay it. Good luck to Rocky. I'd have been happy for him to remain at Wakey, provided it didn't affect the ability to pay for quality in the whole team.
I think some rate higher than any employer ever has done, but he's certainly good enough to be re-signed, subject to price. He isn't, however, the next Topliss, and never was.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"It's all about subjective values.
He's an extremely capable utility player and a good asset to have, for that reason. The club has a certain valuation of him, I presume, which doesn't match his own or those closest to him. It doesn't mean either is wrong, as the Wakey value is affected by the ability to pay, whereas other clubs may have more room on the cap or the till to offer him what he feels is his market value.
His market value might be worth more than what we were prepared to pay, if there was to be a discussion, and Cas might pay it. Good luck to Rocky. I'd have been happy for him to remain at Wakey, provided it didn't affect the ability to pay for quality in the whole team.
I think some rate higher than any employer ever has done, but he's certainly good enough to be re-signed, subject to price. He isn't, however, the next Topliss, and never was.'"
I don't think he's the new Toppo (or I 99.999% doubt it) or even the new Miller/Lino/Gaskell but I'd be delighted if he proved me wrong and he still has the time left, who knows.
What I do know is he no longer plays for us and there will be a good reason for that, though I'm not going to speculate on what. I mean do people really think the club lets players go who they think can do the job they want doing, especially those NOBODY else was the least bit interested in? Poaching has put together a squad that he thinks is right for his methods, why anyone feels the need to complain baffles me. He will make mistakes and has done already but overall he's seemed pretty competent to me so far.
I support only players in the RWB, when they go elsewhere they are not my concern.
Finally, as MC continually points out, we stopped being a selling club years ago and in that time not one single player has come back to bite our bums and even if they did, so what, all clubs let players go who do well elsewhere, our team is full of them.
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