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| Quote ="asmadasa"www.totalrl.com/garry-schofield-my-super-league-predictions/
Gary Schofield talks nonsense......predicting Trinity will finish 11th and saying the following...
Last year they had a great season, and the appointment of Chris Chester was a masterstroke because if Brian Smith had stayed they’d now be in the Championship. The halfbacks worked well for them last year and I think they need to keep faith in them. They don’t have the biggest pack of forwards, but they do well at home and they’ll pick up enough points at Belle Vue to keep them off the bottom.
Don't have the biggest forwards?
David Fifita 6 foot 4 tall 18 1/2 stone
Anthony England 6 foot 4 tall 17 1/2 stone
Keegan Hirst 6 foot 4 tall 18 stone
Anthony Walker 6 foot tall 16 1/2 stone
Danny Kirmond 6 foot 1 tall 16 stone
Johnny Molloy 6 foot 2 tall 16 stone
Tinirau Arona 5 foot 11 tall 16 stone
Matty Ashurst 6 foot 2 tall 15 1/2 stone
This doesn't include a possible Mitchell Allgood 6 foot 4 tall 17 stone or Craig Huby 6 foot 2 tall 17 stone...As for his comments about 'keeping faith with the same half backs' we have also made one of the best possible signings in Sam Williams who has to be one of the first on the team sheet at scrum half.
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Schofield was a talented but lazy player and he's just carried that on in later life fuelling it with beer. He has a right to say what he wishes but no longer has any right to be taken seriously.
Problem is that assumptive attitudes and inability to check the facts is endemic in our game and is shown most graphically on the these forums where pre-concieved opinion rulse the day. Even some of our own fans seem to lack even the most basic grasps of what we have in our team and what it's possible capabilities are. Of course its all on paper for now and this team could easily prove to be a damp squib like so many others, no one can predict what will happen in that respect for now. However some things are certainties even on paper and size of players is one of them.
I share your frustrations on this issue, how difficult can it be to check the facts you half cut, bone idle waste of time - that's Schofield not you. Oh and anybody leaping to the once quite good footballers defence, I would say it to his face all be it slightly more politely.
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| Quote ="vastman"Schofield was a talented but lazy player and he's just carried that on in later life fuelling it with beer. He has a right to say what he wishes but no longer has any right to be taken seriously.
Problem is that assumptive attitudes and inability to check the facts is endemic in our game and is shown most graphically on the these forums where pre-concieved opinion rulse the day. Even some of our own fans seem to lack even the most basic grasps of what we have in our team and what it's possible capabilities are. Of course its all on paper for now and this team could easily prove to be a damp squib like so many others, no one can predict what will happen in that respect for now. However some things are certainties even on paper and size of players is one of them.
I share your frustrations on this issue, how difficult can it be to check the facts you half cut, bone idle waste of time - that's Schofield not you. Oh and anybody leaping to the once quite good footballers defence, I would say it to his face all be it slightly more politely.'"
Agreed. Lazy journalism. Exciting times for Trinity with how this squad is shaping..
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| Let him or anyone else talk all they want, one of our biggest assets for many years has been our opponents underestimating us due to ill informed preseason predictions by so called experts.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Let him or anyone else talk all they want, one of our biggest assets for many years has been our opponents underestimating us due to ill informed preseason predictions by so called experts.'"
Correct. Bring it on.
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| Attitude, fight, aggression are more important qualities for me than just sheer size. We have all watched great `smaller ` players at Trinity, Nigel Bell for example, the type of player who is always refereed to as playing a couple of stone above his weight. I did not see them play but legend and word of mouth advise that Don Vines and Rocky Turner were not big men, but they were men with massive hearts and plenty of aggression. Conversely we have all seen big men who just seem to lack that punch, that aggression, they never look like breaking a tackle, they just go through the motions. They are frustrating players to watch as we expect so much more from them. Its a joy when you get a big man with a bags of aggression, what a great site it was last season to see England and Fifita charging the ball up, like they wanted to do damage to anyone in their way, fantastic to watch. Darren Fritz was a fine example of this and in many ways Korki always looked the part as well.
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| Fritz in full flight was a sight to behold, one of my all time fave players.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Attitude, fight, aggression are more important qualities for me than just sheer size. We have all watched great `smaller ` players at Trinity, Nigel Bell for example, the type of player who is always refereed to as playing a couple of stone above his weight. I did not see them play but legend and word of mouth advise that Don Vines and Rocky Turner were not big men, but they were men with massive hearts and plenty of aggression. Conversely we have all seen big men who just seem to lack that punch, that aggression, they never look like breaking a tackle, they just go through the motions. They are frustrating players to watch as we expect so much more from them. Its a joy when you get a big man with a bags of aggression, what a great site it was last season to see England and Fifita charging the ball up, like they wanted to do damage to anyone in their way, fantastic to watch. Darren Fritz was a fine example of this and in many ways Korki always looked the part as well.'"
You can add Dave Hawley to that list,not that big but always gave 110%
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Attitude, fight, aggression are more important qualities for me than just sheer size. We have all watched great `smaller ` players at Trinity, Nigel Bell for example, the type of player who is always refereed to as playing a couple of stone above his weight. I did not see them play but legend and word of mouth advise that Don Vines and Rocky Turner were not big men, but they were men with massive hearts and plenty of aggression. Conversely we have all seen big men who just seem to lack that punch, that aggression, they never look like breaking a tackle, they just go through the motions. They are frustrating players to watch as we expect so much more from them. Its a joy when you get a big man with a bags of aggression, what a great site it was last season to see England and Fifita charging the ball up, like they wanted to do damage to anyone in their way, fantastic to watch. Darren Fritz was a fine example of this and in many ways Korki always looked the part as well.'"
All very true Belly but remember the old adage "a good bigun will always beat a good smallun". Size most certainly isn't everything not even at prop but it is a massive advantage.
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| Quote ="inside man"Fritz in full flight was a sight to behold, one of my all time fave players.'"
"The big raw-boned Aussie" as John Helm refers to him on an old VHS v Salford I have. Might even be the same game as the "Johny Thomson likes it hard" quote.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo""The big raw-boned Aussie" as John Helm refers to him on an old VHS v Salford I have. Might even be the same game as the "Johny Thomson likes it hard" quote.'"
Wan't that against the Aussies?
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| Quote ="vastman"Wan't that against the Aussies?'"
IT certainly was, against the Aussies midweek/second string, have a look at that Aussie line up. Everyone a household name.
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| Quote ="vastman"Wan't that against the Aussies?'"
No. I didn't have a copy of the Aussie game until much more recent. The VHS of the Salford game was one taped live. I'll check this weekend though.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo""The big raw-boned Aussie" as John Helm refers to him on an old VHS v Salford I have. Might even be the same game as the "Johny Thomson likes it hard" quote.'"
Could be wrong but I thought the JT quote came from the scrum down televised game against Cas where 'Rambo' Ronnie Gibbs got concussed?
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| Quote ="Lockers700"Could be wrong but I thought the JT quote came from the scrum down televised game against Cas where 'Rambo' Ronnie Gibbs got concussed?'"
Could be that one. I have both on VHS.
One of Phil Eden's few big hits.
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| Quote ="Lockers700"Could be wrong but I thought the JT quote came from the scrum down televised game against Cas where 'Rambo' Ronnie Gibbs got concussed?'"
The JT quote was definitely after the Trinity V Australia match.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"The JT quote was definitely after the Trinity V Australia match.'"
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| Quote ="Lockers700"Could be wrong but I thought the JT quote came from the scrum down televised[u game against Cas where 'Rambo' Ronnie Gibbs got concussed[/u?'"
Remember that day well! Didn't see the game live as it was the day that our eldest was born and we were in the maternity suite on the Sunday afternoon and I was trying to get the latest score on an old tranny radio whilst 'she who must be obeyed' was giving birth. Quit that noise woman, I'm trying to find out who went over for that try I wouldn't mind, she'd been in labour since Friday and she wouldn't hurry it up a bit so that I could see the match live - we were both season ticket holders so more money down the drain not getting to the match. Happy days.
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| Quote ="Lockers700"Could be wrong but I thought the JT quote came from the scrum down televised game against Cas where 'Rambo' Ronnie Gibbs got concussed?'"
They did a montage at the end and played "wishing on a star", plus at half time the on field guy asked Gibbs if he'd be coming back on for the second half, he replied along the lines of "dunno mate, up to the boss". I loved Scrumdown.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Attitude, fight, aggression are more important qualities for me than just sheer size. We have all watched great `smaller ` players at Trinity, Nigel Bell for example, the type of player who is always refereed to as playing a couple of stone above his weight. I did not see them play but legend and word of mouth advise that Don Vines and Rocky Turner were not big men, but they were men with massive hearts and plenty of aggression. Conversely we have all seen big men who just seem to lack that punch, that aggression, they never look like breaking a tackle, they just go through the motions. They are frustrating players to watch as we expect so much more from them. Its a joy when you get a big man with a bags of aggression, what a great site it was last season to see England and Fifita charging the ball up, like they wanted to do damage to anyone in their way, fantastic to watch. Darren Fritz was a fine example of this and in many ways Korki always looked the part as well.'" a
Players playing above their weight? I wouldn't have wanted Billy Conway treating me to a short arm jab, no matter how tall he wasn't...
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| Quote ="JINJER"They did a montage at the end and played "wishing on a star", plus at half time the on field guy asked Gibbs if he'd be coming back on for the second half, he replied along the lines of "dunno mate, up to the boss". I loved Scrumdown.'"
Was that the game played in the fog?
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| Either that game or the one against saints.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Was that the game played in the fog?'"
IT was misty ish, a typical winter/autumnal day.
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| The JT quote was deffo with him sat on the bench after being subbed in the 'Rambo' game. Brilliant - and now I might have to go and watch it again for the umpteenth time!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"The JT quote was definitely after the Trinity V Australia match.'"
Sat through the full game last night. Johny T was sent off after about 20 minutes and never sits on the bench. Only after match interview is with Andy Mason. Think others have also confirmed the qoute as coming during a Cas game. I'll watch that one tonight.
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| You know I was sure it was after the Aussie game and Harry Gration interviewed him. Shows how the memory fades.
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