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| Quote ="Daddycool"You could just start asking your council leadertofocus some of his time and energy on wakefield?'"
Sadly his reply would be that they are and would refer to the, mostly unecessary, vast expenditure on Wakefield One and now the Civic Quarter (you know, where he and his cronies hang out during the day) along with the money they pour into the Hepworth and the help they have given to Trinty Walk. Gives him great cover to avoid doing anything to support the cities only professional club bearing its name. The mans an ass and he will ensure that there is no help to sort the Newmarket problem and the new Cas stadium gets all the political weight he can possibly muster to get it over the line. As has been said it's Belle Vue or bust but if that relies on Yorkcourt stumping up, which it does, then sadly the old girl isn't likely to be changing in appearance anytime soon.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"I suggest that the labour party is not in any way the labour party that your Grandad would recognise. What Wakefield needs is some sort of coalition that would teach labour members how to work with others rather than bully and ride roughshod over anyone or anything that does not suit their own agenda as they do now.'"
You are probably right but the chances of the Labour vote in Wakefield dropping is slim to none so they will get their way for a good while yet.
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| Quote ="sixtogo"Sadly his reply would be that they are and would refer to the, mostly unecessary, vast expenditure on Wakefield One and now the Civic Quarter (you know, where he and his cronies hang out during the day) along with the money they pour into the Hepworth and the help they have given to Trinty Walk. Gives him great cover to avoid doing anything to support the cities only professional club bearing its name. The mans an ass and he will ensure that there is no help to sort the Newmarket problem and the new Cas stadium gets all the political weight he can possibly muster to get it over the line. As has been said it's Belle Vue or bust but if that relies on Yorkcourt stumping up, which it does, then sadly the old girl isn't likely to be changing in appearance anytime soon.'"
This cannot be tackled by Trinity supporters fighting a battle about a promised stadium, it must be fought on the genuine grounds of promised community sports facilities!
Wakefield finished rock bottom of a survey of the UKs biggest City's in terms of sporting facilities per capita, that's a huge embarassment to WMDC and requires rectifying. The problem is there's no money so the Comunity Sports facilities at Newmarket, funded largely by York Court Properties were a godsend.
York Court Properties & Colin Mackie only received their planning permission because of the promised delivery of Community Sports and Leisure Facilities and a Stadium fit for Super League use.
YCP should have been LEGALLY OBLIGED to build those much needed sports and leisure facilities for the good of the Wakefiled citizens but a leaky S106 document has allowed YCP to shaft Wakefield residents and tax payers.
That Peter Box, any other Council Member or local MP should attempt to shrug this off as not their issue would be a dereliction of duty to the Communities they serve and who voted them in, it would be a betrayal of the trust placed in those officials by Wakefield Tax payers.
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| So this leaky S106 agreement - who actually agreed to it ? Anyone representing WTW or was it all down to that naughty man Peter Box ?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"
That Peter Box, any other Council Member or local MP should attempt to shrug this off as not their issue would be a dereliction of duty to the Communities they serve and who voted them in, it would be a betrayal of the trust placed in those officials by Wakefield Tax payers.'"
Going by his response to the supporters trust on the radio the other week he has already washed his hands of it.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"So this leaky S106 agreement - who actually agreed to it ? Anyone representing WTW or was it all down to that naughty man Peter Box ?'"
A 106 agreement is between a developer and a LA. One will be drawn up for the proposed Cas ground, I wonder if the land developer has been on to Yorkcourt for some tips.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"So this leaky S106 agreement - who actually agreed to it ? Anyone representing WTW or was it all down to that naughty man Peter Box ?'"
It's signed by the bank, Yorkcourt and the land owner (Holroyds).
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"A 106 agreement is between a developer and a LA. One will be drawn up for the proposed Cas ground, I wonder if the land developer has been on to Yorkcourt for some tips.'"
Don't know about that but Lateral and Cas Tigers have certainly seen the stunt Yorkcourt have pulled on WTW and are trying to avoid a similar scenario.
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| I've sent a question in via the above link. I suggest everyone does.
And his answers last week, were either untruths or incompetent. Not sure which yet..............
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I've sent a question in via the above link. I suggest everyone does.
And his answers last week, were either untruths or incompetent. Not sure which yet..............'"
I would go with both.
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| The question is easy " why have the Wakefield public been conned and why are the council doing nothing about it"
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Would be interesting to see how he reacted/answered if everyone sent in questions to the above.
His response to the chairman of the Supporters Trust on the radio last week was appalling in my opinion and showed a complete lack of respect for the people of Wakefield.
Can someone in the know confirm the real legalities of the S106 agreement in terms of the involved parties. Cllr Box said it was between the Stadium Trust and the Developer and was insisted upon by the SOS not Wakefield Council. Is that correct? Or is it as stated by others above an agreement between the developer and the local authority as they are the beneficiaries????
Surely if it is the LA that are the beneficiaries then he can't just wash his hands of it.
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Would be interesting to see how he reacted/answered if everyone sent in questions to the above.
His response to the chairman of the Supporters Trust on the radio last week was appalling in my opinion and showed a complete lack of respect for the people of Wakefield.
Can someone in the know confirm the real legalities of the S106 agreement in terms of the involved parties. Cllr Box said it was between the Stadium Trust and the Developer and was insisted upon by the SOS not Wakefield Council. Is that correct? Or is it as stated by others above an agreement between the developer and the local authority as they are the beneficiaries????
Surely if it is the LA that are the beneficiaries then he can't just wash his hands of it.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"I suggest that the labour party is not in any way the labour party that your Grandad would recognise. What Wakefield needs is some sort of coalition that would teach labour members how to work with others rather than bully and ride roughshod over anyone or anything that does not suit their own agenda as they do now.'"
The Labour Party now seems to be Tory lite
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"There canvassing for every one to sign for support of the proposed build,if it was as straight forward as they think a double decker bus full of T shirts wouldn't be needed.
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IIRC didn't WTW organize a petition similar to the one mentioned above through SWAG for the development at Newmarket ?
The thousands of signatures didn't do Wakey any harm because planning was granted for Newmarket wasn't it or was it all done for nothing ?
You mock Cas Tigers and Lateral's attempt to do the same - strange ?
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| Always been said pin a red rosette on a monkey and they'd still get in for WMDC that's why we have the fools we have at the moment.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"The question is easy " why have the Wakefield public been conned and why are the council doing nothing about it"'"
A very good question.
Was too much trust placed in Yorkcourt who clearly had no intention of delivering the required percentage of floor space to trigger the development ?
Why weren't the pressure groups promoting the development concerned about the possibility of this happening ?
The scenario was brought up by a couple of posters on Casforum that this could happen and yet was ignored or was it one massive gamble ?
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| see the liblabcon panic last week in the scottish referendem,if the labour council in wakefield think the stadium issue could be a big vote loser next year it might convince them to act.so if they wont do anything dont vote for them simple.
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| Reading the various comments the problem appears to be between the developers and whoever drafted the agreement. I may be missing something but in what way did the council impede the development.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I've sent a question in via the above link. I suggest everyone does.
And his answers last week, were either untruths or incompetent. Not sure which yet..............'"
A politician lying, who would have thought it?
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Box has no interest in Wakefield his power base is the East of the district, he keeps the East happy he keeps power. I think he must have had a bad experience whilst a student a QEGS that created a hatred for Wakefield'"
Why don't we split the council so that they can only vote for the areas they represent, oh wait a minute Newmarket falls into the East of the district.
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| There's an area in the park that would make a great ground............oh wait
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| To be brutally honest I don't give a flyer about the Cas ground!
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Always been said pin a red rosette on a monkey and they'd still get in for WMDC that's why we have the fools we have at the moment.'"
This is not an obvious labour city we no longer have any heavy industry or mining sold off I believe but I can't remember by whom. I object to your reference to the majority being fools because they vote for what they believe, many I suppose will remember what we had before it was taken away. I may consider those that vote for other parties to be idiots and would ask what have they done for Wakefield to make things better and on what basis should we consider changing our votes. Do you actually believe we would have a stadium if the conservatives had been in power, if so why because their current track record is not that great on spending.
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| Quote ="JINJER"To be brutally honest I don't give a flyer about the Cas ground!'"
Me either.
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| Quote ="djcool"There's an area in the park that would make a great ground............oh wait'"
It probably would but sadly I doubt it would be passed and this is nothing to do with my point I was making.
If you think we had objections at Newmarket it would be nothing compared to what we would encounter at the park.
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