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| Quote ="jonh"No player in my opinion should have been drinking at the event, especially at that time in the day. Did not see McGoldrick having a beer which is why i did not comment initially.
This is the mentality we need to change, the 24-36 hours after a game are crucial for recovery from the performance i do not think i need to tell you beer is not going to help this recovery. I can understand the night of a game day the lads going out for a beer to celebrate, but the day after in the morning of a family event, certainly not the time i feel they should be drinking while in the public eye.'"
Whilst I completely agree with you on this point, this discussion is now in danger of moving into the realms of a "where did you spot a player supping an ale" hunt. Lets not go there, please, and stick to the topic at hand.
If anyone wants to discuss the relation between the consumption of alcohol and performance in sport, you can create a separate thread. Thanks
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| Quote ="TRB"SCULLY's DAD made those comments.
I am telling you the other side of the story.
Believe the SUN / believe your own club - your choice!'"
Player gets suspended for finding beer and drinking it thus breaking club rules doesn’t quite have the same controversial angle to it. The gutter press will always put a slant on it.
Was the club statement made with the advanced knowledge that Mr Sculthorpe was going to the press? If so, it makes a little more sense now why it was made in the first place.
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| Quote ="adam9641"I know he did but I am saying the sun miss the facts out as always, never make 100% sure of the story.
They reported the beer was in the fridge, but it was removed. So therfore loads of rubbish
And you don't need to tell me anything, thnaks anyway'"
ffs adam at times you really do yourself no justice what so ever .
THE PLAYERS WERE TOLD NO DRINKING
the 2 suspended broke the rules end off , its not the clubs fault or the suns fault that players think they are bigger than the club . Kear is the boss and must set an example . you may not think it does any harm but im sure kear doesn't give a flying @@@@@ it does not matter what you , i or danny's daddy thinks about this its what kear thinks . its called owning the dressing room .
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| Quote ="Mutts"ffs adam at times you really do yourself no justice what so ever .
THE PLAYERS WERE TOLD NO DRINKING
the 2 suspended broke the rules end off , its not the clubs fault or the suns fault that players think they are bigger than the club . Kear is the boss and must set an example . you may not think it does any harm but im sure kear doesn't give a flying @@@@@ it does not matter what you , i or danny's daddy thinks about this its what kear thinks . its called owning the dressing room .'"
get off your high horse!
It was trb who came all high and mighty.
I am saying in the sun paper it said the beer was in the fridge, but that is not true! It was removed from the fridge.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Was the club statement made with the advanced knowledge that Mr Sculthorpe was going to the press? If so, it makes a little more sense now why it was made in the first place.'"
It still makes no sense to me. It's an internal disciplinary matter, not something to be plastered (forgive the pun) on the club website.
Maybe the Sun got wind of the story after the notice had been pinned and reported in the Sporting Life? Maybe they went to Scully's dad because they could get no answer from Scully or the club? Who knows?
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| Quote ="adam9641"get off your high horse!
It was trb who came all high and mighty.
I am saying in the sun paper it said the beer was in the fridge, but that is not true! It was removed from the fridge.'"
one question do you back the club or not
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| Quote ="Mutts"one question do you back the club or not'"
wtf you on about?
Where have I said the club have done anything wrong?
I am saying the sun bend stories all the time.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Whilst I completely agree with you on this point, this discussion is now in danger of moving into the realms of a "where did you spot a player supping an ale" hunt. Lets not go there, please, and stick to the topic at hand.
If anyone wants to discuss the relation between the consumption of alcohol and performance in sport, you can create a separate thread. Thanks'"
Ok no problem appologies.
My take on it is it is just one big mess that could have been easily avoided and there is fault on all parts IF what is being reported as true. Firstly if the club asked for no booze on the bus there should have been no booze on the bus. Having said that it is a sd state of affairs when a club has to impose such sanctions on its players s it clearly does not trust them, even sadder is the fact there concerns were justified.
The plyers themselves must have been aware of the sitution but took the actions they did and now one of them at least cannot deal with the consequences of his actions, and worse still has sought to try to take the club on in the media. It speaks volumes about a player who at one time could have been anything in the game that he is now being linked to Barrow and Widnes when in real terms he should be in his prime.
We are unsure of the circumstances or if the coaching staff were aware of it at the time regards the drinking or if it came to there attention after the event when the coach arrived back in Wakefield, if the coaches did know it was happening then why not have a word there and then prior to it becoming a major issue.
All in all a nothing incident, a storm in a beer can if you like could realisticlly end the top flight career of 1 player and ensure one of the more talented hlves in the UK is on his way out of the club lso in the not too distant.
I hve never know a club faced with such adversity as Wakefield deal with it so well with class and respect, but continue to have major brain farts over such trivial matters that risk sending all the good work off the rails.
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| Quote ="jonh"I hve never know a club faced with such adversity as Wakefield deal with it so well with class and respect, but continue to have major brain farts over such trivial matters that risk sending all the good work off the rails.'"
So true.
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| I've never been on a coach with a fridge
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| Quote ="adam9641"wtf you on about?
Where have I said the club have done anything wrong?
I am saying the sun bend stories all the time.'"
so the players should not drink even if they think they have deserved it?
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| Basically the club have rules and discilpinary procedures set out, and if players break this rule the club have to stick with what they've set out no matter who they are.
If they didnt they'd look like a laughing stock infront of players who'd do it again because they could get away with it. And later if someone got banned for the same thing then all hell could break loose.
The club set out guidelines they have to stick to them.
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| Quote ="Mutts"so the players should not drink even if they think they have deserved it?'"
I am saying the sun paper NEVER reports 100% facts.
The lads cna have a drink yeah, but if they are told not to then they should go along with the rules like everyone else
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| Danny is rumoured to be considering sueing the club over his fine. I wonder if Wakefield could counter that with sueing Danny for his inept performances, lack of fitness and failing to do what he is bloody well paid for!
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| couldnt that be put on the other thread.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"couldnt that be put on the other thread.
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It is now
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| LATEST UPDATE ......
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Scully's Dad is gonna fight Kear outside the superbowl at 4pm
Boroughs family wanted to come but no mini bus companies will not pick them up.
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| Quote ="Mutts"LATEST UPDATE ......
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Scully's Dad is gonna fight Kear outside the superbowl at 4pm
Boroughs family wanted to come but no mini bus companies will not pick them up.'"
winner gets medium home shirt, loser gets light bulb.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"I'm with danril....
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| Quote ="Walrus"How do people know that the cans were hidden?
It does not say that in the Sun article and I understood that conjecture on here without fact to back it up is not allowed.
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Quote ="adam9641"They always forget to put the facts in, often twist words to make it sounds much worse etc.'"
Quote ="TRB"It is what the club requested - and was done, just not very well apparently!'"
Quote ="adam9641"What the club asked for lies to be printed?
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Quote ="TRB"What the $%&* are you on about???
The club asked for the beer to be removed from the fridge!
'" - so we come form the same angle, about the cans been removed. Quote ="adam9641"1"The sun article said the beer was in the fridge with a price list.
The beer was NOT in the fridge as it was removed.:'"
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| all week we have been sticking up for scully then hey presto .
one would of thought NGB4C would of been gloating about this , maybe hes stuck in traffic
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| Quote ="Mutts"all week we have been sticking up for scully then hey presto .
one would of thought NGB4C would of been gloating about this , maybe hes stuck in traffic'"
Quote ="newgroundb4cas"you cant booze on the team bus its time we acted like a professional outfit credit to JK. He could have waited until he got up but had to crack the cans open on the club bus its pathetic. When are you guys going to listen to me he needs to go, hes the only one not pulling his weight and Grix but Grix tries at least.'"
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| Quote ="Mutts"all week we have been sticking up for scully then hey presto .
one would of thought NGB4C would of been gloating about this , maybe hes stuck in traffic'"
Naughty naughty .....
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