5 gets my vote

So if someone made claim regarding wrong doing ( not illegal but maybe dropped a massive bollock) there would be no one of any senior authority to take him to task? I can't really believe that.

Yes that would be as points 1 or 2.

You know I am far from an expert on this but it would have to be very serious I would think, not just a slip up. I would also suspect it would have to shown to a deliberate or reckless error.
I can only think of two examples were the government stepped in to take control and that's Dony and Rotherham. So I would imagine those are the type of serious situations it may take.

Normally if a council leader had been getting away with things like Box all these years and running down the City. He would have been voted out long ago in the vast majority of places in the UK. That's not ever going to happen in wakey, he can basically do anything he is labour he will always win. Perhaps that's were the system fails. In Spain locally elected leaders are only allowed two terms and can never serve again

Bit unfair to label all Wakefield public to be genettically engineered to vote Labour, Prince. I'm a very strong socialist but would never vote Labour in Wakefield local elections whilst ever Box is present.

Quote ="JINJER"So if someone made claim regarding wrong doing ( not illegal but maybe dropped a massive bollock) there would be no one of any senior authority to take him to task? I can't really believe that.'" Ombudsman www.lgo.org.uk/

Quote ="JINJER"So if someone made claim regarding wrong doing ( not illegal but maybe dropped a massive bollock) there would be no one of any senior authority to take him to task? I can't really believe that.'" Ombudsman www.lgo.org.uk/

Quote ="financialtimes"Ombudsman www.lgo.org.uk/'" Cheers.

Quote ="financialtimes"Ombudsman www.lgo.org.uk/'" Cheers.

Redscat

Yes I accept that and it was a bad term, sorry. But I hope you understand my point in that Wakefield will never ever be anything else but a labour controlled council no matter how bad they are. Over the district as a whole they will always have enough voters.

Quote ="financialtimes"Ombudsman www.lgo.org.uk/'" Toothless tiger so I believe, see the response to the poster given by his local councillor David Dews.

Quote ="financialtimes"Ombudsman www.lgo.org.uk/'" Toothless tiger so I believe, see the response to the poster given by his local councillor David Dews.

As a matter of interest Box has been the leader since 1998. Second longest in present day in all English councils.

19 years totally unopposed and yet a disaster for the City

Ironic that his term began the year we got promoted to super league

ary Creagh and Ed Balls, commenting on the Wakefield Wildcats Stadium, said:

“Wakefield Trinity Wildcats’ proud history is at the heart of the city’s sporting life. We have supported the community stadium process for several years, contacting Wakefield Council on several occasions. We will continue to work with the community stadium trust, fans and the Council to secure the future of the club and the new stadium. We stand ready to support the club in any way we can.”

Ends

Mary’s letter to Wakefield Council and full response from the Council Chief Executive:

From: Wakefield Constituency Office
Sent: 02 April 2015 15:43
To: Box, Peter (Cllr); Wallhead, Andrew; Roney, Joanne
Subject: Wakefield Wildcats Stadium

Andy Wallhead

Corporate Director

Wakefield Council



Dear Andy

Re: Wakefield Wildcats Stadium

I am contacting you in relation to the recent developments of the Community Stadium for Wakefield Wildcats (‘the Club’).

I recently spoke to David Hinchcliffe regarding this matter, and I am concerned about the future of the Stadium. I have also been contacted by a number of fans and supporters. They all have questions over Wakefield Council’s position on Section 106 from York Court Properties.

Can the Council provide me with a schedule and indication of how much money you expect to receive in S106 payments from York Court? How much money, if any has already been received by the council? If no payments have been made what are the trigger points for York Court to start building the stadium?

There have been suggestions that the Club may want to purchase its ground. Is there any possibility that Wakefield Council can act as guarantors for the Club to enable them to buy the land? I understand the club are currently paying £10,000 per month in rent to hire the Stadium from the Bank of Ireland. Buying the ground would greatly reduce the Club’s running costs.

I would be grateful if you could look into this issue as a matter of urgency, and send me a response.

Yours sincerely

MARY CREAGH



Date: Thursday, April 9, 2015
Subject: RE: Wakefield Wildcats Stadium
To: “Wakefield Constituency Office

Dear Mary

Wakefield Community Stadium

I refer to your below email to Andy Wallhead regarding comments around Newmarket and the proposal for the delivery of a new community stadium.

I understand and share the concerns of the Trust, members and fans.

I have therefore set out below the decision making process the Council went through.

In preparing the Local Development Framework for Wakefield, the Council produced a Core Strategy that identified the need to find an additional 95 hectares of land for B8 for warehousing and storage uses. The Core Strategy underwent public examination and was found to be “sound” by an Inspector appointed by the Secretary of State. It was adopted as policy by the Council in 2009. A process was also undertaken to identify development sites to meet this additional need for warehousing and storage uses; the Newmarket site being one of them. The Newmarket site and other development sites were subject to an examination in public and subsequently found to be “sound” by the inspector and incorporated into the adopted Sites Allocations Document.

At the same time Yorkcourt Properties submitted a planning application on the Newmarket site allocation which proposed a Community Stadium, business units, a hotel, a food unit and associated roads and infrastructure. This permission was approved by the Secretary of State following a 3 week call in Inquiry. That permission was accompanied by a Section 106 unilateral agreement. The Council were not party to that unilateral agreement which was signed by Yorkcourt alone and set out their intention to let the Stadium construction contract, provided the finance for the stadium was available and once 60,000 sqm of B8 warehousing had been built. A planning condition was also attached to the Consent issued by the Secretary of States that states:

“No more than 60,000m2 of the B8 development shall be occupied unless and until the stadium is completed to its design capacity of 12,000 so as to be capable of staging a Rugby Super League match attended by the public and the stadium and its ancillary elements have received all necessary safety and other certificates to allow it to be used for that purpose.”

A subsequent and separate proposal came forward by Yorkcourt Properties and Newcold Ltd for a cold food distribution warehouse within the Newmarket site. The proposal was for a 22,300sqm facility. This was submitted as a separate full planning application and was not linked to the development proposal referred to above that was given consent by the Secretary of State. As you are aware, the decision to put in a new application was that of the developers not the council, and we were duty bound to consider the application. The developer’s reasons for submitting a separate full planning application stem from the proposed size of the Newcold building which did not fall within the parameters of the approved outline consent issued by the Secretary of State.

I can confirm that there was no Section 106 Agreement to link this development with the funding of a community stadium as the size of development (22,300sqm) is below the 60,000sqm threshold for contributing toward the stadium that was set out in the original outline application issued by the Secretary of State. A meeting with the Trust Chair, myself and Andy Wallhead was held at that time and it was discussed that there would be no linkage with the Newcold development. I can also confirm that no objections to the planning application were subsequently received from the Trust or its members.

The Planning Committee made the decision to approve the development in the full knowledge of all material considerations not least that it would generate approximately 154 full time jobs. The report to the committee made clear that the planning application had been submitted as a stand-alone proposal, and was not covered by the outline conditions or unilateral undertaking issued by the Secretary of State.

The decision of the Committee was therefore taken in a very open way and the key participants in the creation of a community stadium were aware of the details being considered by the Planning and Highways Committee.

With regards to the possibility of the Council providing funds to purchase the ground at Belle Vue, I would highlight two issues:

1. At its last meeting the Trust members agreed by a majority to focus its aspirations on a new build option at Newmarket and not to pursue a redevelopment of Belle Vue.

2. In any event the Council is not in a position to loan to the Trust the monies required and in this regard, I enclose a letter recently sent by the Council’s Deputy Leader to the Trust Chair.

The Council will continue to assist the Trust in its aspirations to develop a new stadium at Newmarket by directing appropriate development to that site. However, the delivery of a new facility is principally a matter for the Trust not the Council.

Yours sincerely

Joanne

JOANNE RONEY OBE

CHIEF EXECUTIVE

Wakefield Council

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I seem to remember at a meeting some time ago at BV to inform fans of the up to date stadium position, that it was said we couldn't object to the Newcold build as we had only been informed on the day/or after objections had closed.

Isn't there a minister for local government? Is there anything in their role that can help?

Quote ="djcool"Isn't there a minister for local government? Is there anything in their role that can help?'" Yes it's Sajid Javid who you have to contact via the following form: forms.communities.gov.uk You can't email him direct as due to parliamentary rules he can only reply to his local constituents which is in Bromsgrove(West Midlands). An influx of correspondence via this form may trigger some alarm bells in his department though.

Quote ="djcool"Isn't there a minister for local government? Is there anything in their role that can help?'" Yes it's Sajid Javid who you have to contact via the following form: forms.communities.gov.uk You can't email him direct as due to parliamentary rules he can only reply to his local constituents which is in Bromsgrove(West Midlands). An influx of correspondence via this form may trigger some alarm bells in his department though.

Just sent an email to mr javid got to keep the pressure on guys ,it's probably our only hope.by the way never got a reply from the WE to
my letter all our family will now stop buying it ,

Quote ="wtid71"Yes it's Sajid Javid who you have to contact via the following form: forms.communities.gov.uk You can't email him direct as due to parliamentary rules he can only reply to his local constituents which is in Bromsgrove(West Midlands). An influx of correspondence via this form may trigger some alarm bells in his department though.'" I've sent a message to Sajid Javid asking for clarification on the refusal to take responsibility for the s.106, disaggregation of the cold store planning and claiming in the Citizen that the other stadium is a community stadium when it is a gift to a private company in which the leader owns shares.

Quote ="wtid71"Yes it's Sajid Javid who you have to contact via the following form: forms.communities.gov.uk You can't email him direct as due to parliamentary rules he can only reply to his local constituents which is in Bromsgrove(West Midlands). An influx of correspondence via this form may trigger some alarm bells in his department though.'" I've sent a message to Sajid Javid asking for clarification on the refusal to take responsibility for the s.106, disaggregation of the cold store planning and claiming in the Citizen that the other stadium is a community stadium when it is a gift to a private company in which the leader owns shares.

So Joanne Roney states a meeting took place about Newcold with the Trust sometime in 2015 hopefully this was minuted by her or the council as she has referred this meeting to an MP there must be a record then!

Someone commented earlier that the Council would not release meeting minutes because they would not be in the public interest. Does anyone know how this sits when you have the Freedom of Information Act which means we could demand specific information be released? I can't imagine that they would have legal authority to embargo the minutes.

If someone has a question for the trust or clarity on any issues relating to this whole debacle, how exactly does one contact the trust/SWAG? I'll be damned if I can find any concerted activity on their part on social media or anywhere else for that matter. They could very well be running themselves into the ground but nobody would know. I applaud their efforts and doing what they do in their free time. But they're the voice of the supporters and at a time when we've got national exposure, and this forum aside, there's complete radio silence!

Quote ="gowerthegroap"If someone has a question for the trust or clarity on any issues relating to this whole debacle, how exactly does one contact the trust/SWAG? I'll be damned if I can find any concerted activity on their part on social media or anywhere else for that matter. They could very well be running themselves into the ground but nobody would know. I applaud their efforts and doing what they do in their free time. But they're the voice of the supporters and at a time when we've got national exposure, and this forum aside, there's complete radio silence!'" I can assure you that we are running ourselves into the ground. The Stadium Trust has no presence on Social Media but we use the Supporters Trust and Fight for Newmarket Facebook and Twitter accounts but please bear with us we are limited on time, bodies and expertise in Social Media matters. Talking of the Supporters Trust we have very few people who have taken the trouble to actually pay the £5.00 subscription so if you are inclined to become members and shareholders in the Supporters Trust we would welcome you with open arms. If you wish to join please e-mail the Trust at wtsupporterstrust@aol.com and if I can figure it out I'll e-mail a Membership Application Form.

Quote ="gowerthegroap"If someone has a question for the trust or clarity on any issues relating to this whole debacle, how exactly does one contact the trust/SWAG? I'll be damned if I can find any concerted activity on their part on social media or anywhere else for that matter. They could very well be running themselves into the ground but nobody would know. I applaud their efforts and doing what they do in their free time. But they're the voice of the supporters and at a time when we've got national exposure, and this forum aside, there's complete radio silence!'" I can assure you that we are running ourselves into the ground. The Stadium Trust has no presence on Social Media but we use the Supporters Trust and Fight for Newmarket Facebook and Twitter accounts but please bear with us we are limited on time, bodies and expertise in Social Media matters. Talking of the Supporters Trust we have very few people who have taken the trouble to actually pay the £5.00 subscription so if you are inclined to become members and shareholders in the Supporters Trust we would welcome you with open arms. If you wish to join please e-mail the Trust at wtsupporterstrust@aol.com and if I can figure it out I'll e-mail a Membership Application Form.

I can confirm that there was no Section 106 Agreement to link this development with the funding of a community stadium as the size of development (22,300sqm) is below the 60,000sqm threshold for contributing toward the stadium that was set out in the original outline application issued by the Secretary of State.


Maybe I have missed something, it wouldn't be the first time. But this reads to me that only structures above 60,000sqm contribute to the trigger point, and this was the original agreement with the SOS, so allowed outside the 106.
However, it was my belief that the trigger was a total of 60,000sqm available for occupancy, and that 20,000 plus (seen figures of 40,000 quoted) would indeed be a significant contribution.
Please can anyone clarify, or perhaps I have mis-interpreted the quote?
As a side point, if Newcold, which is visible from both the Great Wall of China and space, is too small to contribute to the stadium trigger point, someone is going to have to plan and construct something akin to a couple of death stars in Methley for us to see progress.

Exactly what I was wondering

Latest reply from One of my councillors;

As mentioned before councillors across Wakefield are receiving similarly worded letters often through automated systems.

To avoid confusion the Council is sending an official response to everyone who writes/emails in to their councillor.

It would seem they are certainly getting rattled, no surprise he's a Labour Councillor ....

"To avoid confusion..." - otherwise known as covering your tracks; and it's shameful that he can order all Labour councillors to tow the line, and they immediately fall into step. The best course might be to pursue the Tory Councillors - and I hope someone from the Trust/Club have been in touch with Mr Dews, who appears ready and willing to ask Mr Box some very pointed and embarrassing questions on our behalf?

I've contacted Sajid Javid too - to highlight the failure of WMDC to enforce the UU - and to point out that Mr Box has at the same time, presided over a similar arrangement in Castleford that will benefit a private company he owns shares in, to the tune of £10 million.

I will today be contacting the Local Government Ombudsman, and I'm seeing my planning lawyer later today - so I'll draw him into a conversation over coffee and try to get some free advice...

To which my response was;
So do I assume I shall be receiving an automated reply to this email address from the Council shortly?