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| Think your fighting a losing battle there.
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| Quote ="cats gone mad"its alright saying we wil get money for him but as fans we dont see any of that money it wont go on team rebuilding but into teds pocket '"
Whilst it's frustrating at times, i find it very naive you believe Ted would pocket whatever fee we'll receive. More likely is the money will go towards servicing debts, might well go towards the new stadium or be invested in youth players or to retain current players.
We've all been here before with Ellis, Atkins etc and we've always come through it a better team.
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| Don't worry, we'll get the best out of any brough deal.
Our coach knows how to negotiate.
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| I’d be very disappointed if we sold DB at this stage of the season. It would have to be one hell of a deal to justify selling arguably your best player and chief play maker to a rival team after 6 games of a new season.
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| Quote ="Toppo"I’d be very disappointed if we sold DB at this stage of the season. It would have to be one hell of a deal to justify selling arguably your best player and chief play maker to a rival team after 6 games of a new season.'"
Would the coach really consider them to be a rival team other than geographically? - they are challenging for top 3 places, we are realistically challenging for 5-8 position. I think that a coach would consider those places in terms of rivalry more than Hudds/Wigan and poss Wire this year who all seem to have upped their game tremendously and challenging for top few slots.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Whilst it's frustrating at times, i find it very naive you believe Ted would pocket whatever fee we'll receive. More likely is the money will go towards servicing debts, might well go towards the new stadium or be invested in youth players or to retain current players.
We've all been here before with Ellis, Atkins etc and we've always come through it a better team.'"
At the start of the season we set a budget out to spend on playing personnel. If Brough is not replaced we have reduced that budget in a big way. What has happened financially since the off season to the club that stops us sticking to our original budget?
Brough imo is the best play maker in the league, it's a big hole to replace. If were not getting a player swop it's going to cause us problems. Without him we are weaker, that we have to accept. This will be reflected over the rest of the season in lost potential League points. I would go as far as to say if this deal woks the way I fear it could cost us the play offs. .
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| Top player danny brough and be missed alot.
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| Not only will we lost his influence in dictating play and creating chances, but who's going to kick the goals?
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| Quote ="260391"Not only will we lost his influence in dictating play and creating chances, but who's going to kick the goals?
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Mr Cooke!
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| Whilst losing Brough will be a big blow, the club moves on. It’s like déjà-Vue, Gaz Ellis, Solomona et-al.
What I don’t understand is, why now?
What can the club possibly gain from his sale, yes we may get a bit of cash, or even a player that no longer figures in Shudds plans, big wow.
Maybe if we made him stay to the end of the season, he would spit his dummy out, I don’t know, but, if that wasn’t the case, I would rather him see out his contract. With the squad we’ve got, plus the possible addition of Cooke, we would have the best team, we’ve had for many a year, certainly in the S.L era.
I wouldn’t care where he went next season, let the possible suitors battle it out for him, but don’t ruin this season for a quick buck.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Have faith, everytime someone comes in to take our players we always come off stronger. BoD are pretty good at getting these deals right. If Shudds want him now they will have to pay end of !!!'"
I have every faith PB, The point I was making was to Wadski and some of his mates. I know so do you, and the rest of the Wakey fans also know that we are not in the business of lying down for other clubs, but it would seem that there is a new found arrogance with some of them Hudds fans what think they are the dogs chuggies atm. Its not 5 mins' since everyone of them and his dog were saying Brough nah, now its he'll be coming on our terms and we dont pay fees right. course it is pet The thing is they are all well versed in the art of selective misquoting and you can bet your money that according to them they will have had the best deal.
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| A lot of these transfers are arranged months in advance.Now,only 6 games into the season,Wakefield are negotiating on at least one coming in and one going out when the rumour of Danny going has been on the go for an age.
[iPrince Buster[/i posted 'He is on his way' with certainty on Saturday - today it is an 'if'.
It is all very unsettling and the quicker this is sorted the better.
The actions of Huddersfield are even more bizarre - reading the Hudds.forum Luke Robinson was aware of Danny being signed before he accepted a 2 yrs.contract.This could have been done a few weeks earlier and they run the risk of unsettling their successful side.
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| Even though the rumours are really strong and have to be taken seriously, I really can't see the move working for anyone but DB.
Giants really don't need him, given the players they have already contracted and Wakefield would find t very hard to replace him, no matter how much money was paid.
I guess we'll see.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/wildcats-and-danny-brough-i606796.html'"
Good to see the club state they have done everything possible to keep Danny Brough but they're not prepared to be held to ransom. Also clear that they will not be bullied by Huddersfield and will only a deal that is going to benefit us
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| Bye bye Danny!!
Let's move on!
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| One of the quotes from the above link;
“Any deal would have to be in the best interests of Wakefield Trinity Wildcats and enable us to maintain or improve the quality of the team’s competiveness and potential.”
I can't see how the hell losing your best player and not replacing him is going to not effect your competiveness and potential.
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| I honestly believe our season is shafted now.
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| Indeed. I'm happy we are not going above our best valuation, but really disappointed we couldn't get a deal going with him.
Hope we get a good deal but not sure about player exchanges.
Unless they are giving us a top player (who is not heading "alledgedly" for a stretch somewhere) we might as well get the cash and shop around.
Crabtree, Lunt and £100,000 is my first negotiation point. If they didn't like that I'm prepared to add Wild instead of Lunt.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Whilst losing Brough will be a big blow, the club moves on. It’s like déjà-Vue, Gaz Ellis, Solomona et-al.
What I don’t understand is, why now?
What can the club possibly gain from his sale, yes we may get a bit of cash, or even a player that no longer figures in Shudds plans, big wow.
Maybe if we made him stay to the end of the season, he would spit his dummy out, I don’t know, but, if that wasn’t the case, I would rather him see out his contract. With the squad we’ve got, plus the possible addition of Cooke, we would have the best team, we’ve had for many a year, certainly in the S.L era.
I wouldn’t care where he went next season, let the possible suitors battle it out for him, but don’t ruin this season for a quick buck.'"
Simple, no point having a player on board who doesn't want to play for you. Even with the most grounded of players that is hugely disruptive, in the case of a big personality like Brough it could be a disaster. Players are people and once you are compromised as in any job it's over. It was just about plausible to believe Ellis would have played his contract out but not Brough. He's far too abrasive to do that, just think you are a player, you have committed to the club for two years and you get a volley of abuse from a player who's already got a massive contract sorted elsewhere - nah.
Broughy been a great player and I thank him for that and wish him well but he is now damaged goods for us.
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| Quote ="deeHell"One of the quotes from the above link;
“Any deal would have to be in the best interests of Wakefield Trinity Wildcats and enable us to maintain or improve the quality of the team’s competiveness and potential.”
I can't see how the hell losing your best player and not replacing him is going to not effect your competiveness and potential.
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We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Personally I was in the 'retain him for this season and lose him for nothing in November' camp' as I think Trinity without Brough would be poorer team for it.
However, if I learned nothing other since Kear has been in charge is to trust his instincts as more often then not he has got the wheeling and dealing right. Whatever the recompense is it will be in the best interests of Wakefield.
If a player is unhappy and wants out, as BIGAL overheard Brough saying, there is little reason to keep him no matter how good they are. By offloading an unhappy player, it is in the best interests of the club and could indeed improve the team and potential through harmonising the squad. A team is greater than the sum of it’s parts.
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| I agree.
Wanted him to stay, but if he doesn't want to then let him go. I think it is a positive move to let him go. The team is more important than the individual.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"I honestly believe our season is shafted now.'"
so true , we fell apart when he was off the field at KR.....oh hang on
Cooke will be fine all be it a different kind o0ff player but if king kear can wave his magic wand i think we are gonna get the very best out off Cooke.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Personally I was in the 'retain him for this season and lose him for nothing in November' camp' as I think Trinity without Brough would be poorer team for it.
However, if I learned nothing other since Kear has been in charge is to trust his instincts as more often then not he has got the wheeling and dealing right. Whatever the recompense is it will be in the best interests of Wakefield.
If a player is unhappy and wants out, as BIGAL overheard Brough saying, there is little reason to keep him no matter how good they are. By offloading an unhappy player, it is in the best interests of the club and could indeed improve the team and potential through harmonising the squad. A team is greater than the sum of it’s parts.'"
I was just about to post the same.
Wait and see what happens. Its been stated that whatever happens will be in the best interest of Wakefield Trinity and I for one believe that will be the case.
I know its not like me but stop all this talk of "doom and gloom" - we will come out of this stronger.
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