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| So where does the club go from there if yc dont contribute, sounds like we've hit a brick wall
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| Quote ="cosmicat"So where does the club go from there if yc dont contribute, sounds like we've hit a brick wall'"
They were never going to contribute, if people hadn't already worked that out previously the last application once and for all confirmed that. It's why the club/trust have taken back some control by getting BV back and looking for funding streams themselves.
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| Should have continued with legal proceedings against yc ,f### em
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| Its not YorkCourt that you can take legal proceedings against, they have not done anything wrong, they are only doing what the Council has, is allowing them to do. This situation has been set up by the Council so if you wanted to go legal you would need to instigate a judicial review, to review how the council have handled things from day one, it could take at least a year and you would need a minimum of £ 300,000 to fund it. Not sure where that would come from, people have talked about crowd funding, think that may achieve say £ 10,000
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Its not YorkCourt that you can take legal proceedings against, they have not done anything wrong, they are only doing what the Council has, is allowing them to do. This situation has been set up by the Council so if you wanted to go legal you would need to instigate a judicial review, to review how the council have handled things from day one, it could take at least a year and you would need a minimum of £ 300,000 to fund it. Not sure where that would come from, people have talked about crowd funding, think that may achieve say £ 10,000'"
You can’t instigate a judicial review over how the council have handled things since day one as judicial reviews are time constrained and that horse as long since bolted.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"They were never going to contribute, if people hadn't already worked that out previously the last application once and for all confirmed that. It's why the club/trust have taken back some control by getting BV back and looking for funding streams themselves.'"
I agree Yorkcourt have no intention of paying a penny and they never will whilst ever our council help them in every way they can. What frustrates me is why we are even keeping up this pretence of them doing so. If our council were half decent they would be looking at any future schemes on the horizon in order to fund a community stadium.
However if we stick to the idea that Yorkcourt will provide funding we will come to a stage in a few years when every bit of Newmarket has been developed and nothing has been forth coming. By then we will be playing out of a total wreck of a stadium with no chance of up grading it and a 3.2 million debt with rolled up interest that will need repaying. We will have fannied around for well over twenty years and be back to the same state we were in when the club was in previous ownership
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| Quote ="If our council were half decent they would be looking at any future schemes on the horizon in order to fund a community stadium.'"
If our council were half decent this wouldn't be happening in the first place. Even if we put the original Newcold application and it's circumventing of the stadium trigger points down to mistake or undersight, they still seem intent on moving the goal posts to get this latest application passed
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| Just reading the WE article regarding planning for Newmarket, apparently the council have asked Yorkcourt to contribute to the upgrade of BV, Yorkcourt have declined suggesting that it wouldn't be "lawful" for them to help fund the stadium. Is there anyone on here involved in planning that could explain why it wouldn't be lawful?
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"How do you fund Court action ? £ 50,000 would be needed just to get started then perhaps £ 250,000. The loan has nothing to do with Newmarket, Council have made a loan to the club on commercial terms.'"
Some time ago, Carter said he’d fund the court action himself so it’s not a problem
I’m not sure how cosy he’s got with Box since then, as the loan deal suggests they’ve forged some kind of relationship.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Just reading the WE article regarding planning for Newmarket, apparently the council have asked Yorkcourt to contribute to the upgrade of BV, Yorkcourt have declined suggesting that it wouldn't be "lawful" for them to help fund the stadium. Is there anyone on here involved in planning that could explain why it wouldn't be lawful?'"
Knowing what we do about the two main protagonists in this, I think the conversation would have been something like this …
BOX "Colin... Would you like to contribute towards upgrading Belle Vue instead ??"
MACKIE "No"
BOX "Okay, sorry for asking".
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| Quote ="FIL"Knowing what we do about the two main protagonists in this, I think the conversation would have been something like this …
BOX "Colin... Would you like to contribute towards upgrading Belle Vue instead ??"
MACKIE "No"
BOX "Okay, sorry for asking".
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Sounds about right.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Some time ago, Carter said he’d fund the court action himself so it’s not a problem
I’m not sure how cosy he’s got with Box since then, as the loan deal suggests they’ve forged some kind of relationship.'"
Would be a problem if it was my money! you're talking mega bucks, many in the legal profession have a licence to print money!
MC doesn't have to be 'cosy' with anyone in particular, the loan is from the council isn't it, not Box?
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| It is not too late for the council to show some moral judgement by refusing to sanction any planning application unless Yorkcourt voluntarily offer some contribution for the land that they have been given to develop.
Why did they think they were given the land in the first place.
In legal parlance what is the consideration that they have provided. If there is none there is no deal.
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| With less than 48 hours before the planning application is put before the planning committee, again, I have to say I’m both surprised and disappointed, that there has been no comment or advice given to the fans and supporters who have attended previous planning applications to show support for members of The stadium trust. I have to ask why the trust have remained silent. I hope it’s because there are ongoing discussion between parties involved, and I can understand that any talks are confidential at this stage.
I hope the trust would at least confirm they, the trust are still involved in this stadium saga.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"With less than 48 hours before the planning application is put before the planning committee, again, I have to say I’m both surprised and disappointed, that there has been no comment or advice given to the fans and supporters who have attended previous planning applications to show support for members of The stadium trust. I have to ask why the trust have remained silent. I hope it’s because there are ongoing discussion between parties involved, and I can understand that any talks are confidential at this stage.
I hope the trust would at least confirm they, the trust are still involved in this stadium saga.
Thank you'"
Agree some kind of an update would be helpful to all fans
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Would be a problem if it was my money! you're talking mega bucks, many in the legal profession have a licence to print money!
MC doesn't have to be 'cosy' with anyone in particular, the loan is from the council isn't it, not Box?'"
I’m just repeating what was said some time ago, I’m sure Carter knew the rough costs when he said it!
Surely you’ve worked out that Box is the Council and no such loan for Trinity could be approved without him nodding his head from the shadows.
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Thank you for this information, I’m not usually a twitter reader. Mr Townsend is a person I have the utmost respect for with the battles against property developers knights of the realm and local council, and I may well attend the meeting in support for him. Unfortunately, Mr Townsend left the stadium trust some time ago, therefore unable to make any comments of behalf of the trust.
Thank you
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Thank you for this information, I’m not usually a twitter reader. Mr Townsend is a person I have the utmost respect for with the battles against property developers knights of the realm and local council, and I may well attend the meeting in support for him. Unfortunately, Mr Townsend left the stadium trust some time ago, therefore unable to make any comments of behalf of the trust.
Thank you
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| So who’s on the Stadium Trust now
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| Phil spoke at the earlier planning meeting along with Ian Bramley and Mary Creagh.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So who’s on the Stadium Trust now'"
A quick check on companies house tonight show the following five people are listed
Ian Bramley
Chris Brereton
Michael Carter
David Hinchcliffe
Johnathan Stone
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Thank you for this information, I’m not usually a twitter reader. Mr Townsend is a person I have the utmost respect for with the battles against property developers knights of the realm and local council, and I may well attend the meeting in support for him. Unfortunately, Mr Townsend left the stadium trust some time ago, therefore unable to make any comments of behalf of the trust.
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So then Dunkirk after naming Mr Townsend care to disclose your name?? Just to put a name to the face at Thurs meeting
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| Quote ="eastardsley"So then Dunkirk after naming Mr Townsend care to disclose your name?? Just to put a name to the face at Thurs meeting'"
Please introduce yourself to me in the reception area before the meeting. Im the one with a white beard.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"A quick check on companies house tonight show the following five people are listed
Ian Bramley
Chris Brereton
Michael Carter
David Hinchcliffe
Johnathan Stone
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Thanks Dunkirk
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Please introduce yourself to me in the reception area before the meeting.[u Im the one with a white beard.[/u
Thank you'"
Is it possible to get a new stadium down the chimney FC.
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