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| Quote ="TRB"Neither IMHO.
Toppo was a better coach - given that the side were part time and we still had no money.
The side of 2004 was better in quality than this lot. Even the 2005 & 2006 sides had more quality - even if we didn't see it much. This side is full of triers - but with the exception of 1 or 2 they are either past their best; reached their limitations or haven't got their yet.
I don't subscribe to the 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater' theory and would like to see evolution rather than revolution (i.e. change 3/4/5 players at the end of the year rather than 6/7/8 ), but we do need to work to improve over each of the next 3 seasons - and, unfortunate as it is, the model has to be Huddersfield, who have improved their squad carefully and steadily each season.
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cant see how the 2006 side had better players personally. and its ok saying the model is shudds when they have the dollar to bring in players like hodgson
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"cant see how the 2006 side had better players personally. and its ok saying the model is shudds when they have the dollar to bring in players like hodgson'"
The 2006 side had plenty of decent players - we only saw them play fleetingly!
We have an opportunity to improve the quality of our squad - but it is not a bottomless pit!
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| Quote ="TRB"The 2006 side had plenty of decent players - we only saw them play fleetingly!
We have an opportunity to improve the quality of our squad - but it is not a bottomless pit!'" can i find the 2006 team anywhere cause id have a few instead of this lot
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"icon_lol.gif Every defeat more like.
And thats most games TBF.'"
Summing up the game banned now is it ??
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| Halpenny, Demetriou, Evans, Henderson, Tadulala, Rooney, Jeffries, Watene, Obst, Korkidas, Solomona, MacGillivray, Betham.
Replacements: March, Elima, Catic, Latu
That is the 06 team that faced Cas, will see if I can find full team
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| Quote ="adam9641"Halpenny, Demetriou, Evans, Henderson, Tadulala, Rooney, Jeffries, Watene, Obst, Korkidas, Solomona, MacGillivray, Betham.
Replacements: March, Elima, Catic, Latu
That is the 06 team that faced Cas, will see if I can find full team'"
Look no further than this very site:
[urlhttp://www.slstats.org/t1/Wakefield%20Trinity%20Wildcats/2006/Summary.html[/url
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Jason Demetriou Second Row
Jon Whittle Wing
Semi Tadulala Wing
Ben Jeffries Stand Off
Sam Obst Hooker
Darrell Griffin Prop
David March Hooker
Michael Korkidas Prop
David Solomona Second Row
Jamie Field Second Row
Monty Betham Loose Forw
Paul White Wing
David Wrench Prop
Jamie Rooney Stand Off
Duncan Macgillivary Second Row
Olivier Elima Prop
Kevin Henderson Centre
Austin Buchanan Wing
Mark Field Full Back
Mark Applegarth Prop
Ned Catic Second Row
Tom Saxton Full Back
Ryan Atkins Centre
Adam Watene Prop
Tevita Leo-Latu Hooker
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| Quote ="bloomers"Look no further than this very site:
[urlhttp://www.slstats.org/t1/Wakefield%20Trinity%20Wildcats/2006/Summary.html[/url'"
Try this:
[urlhttp://www.slstats.org/2006/9/16/Wakefield%20Trinity%20Wildcats%20V%20Castleford%20Tigers.html[/url
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| Quote ="bloomers"Look no further than this very site:
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JUst beat me to it.
Out of that team, would you take swap them with any of our current players?
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| Quote ="TRB"Try this:
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There are 6 or 7 in there that I would pick over what we have now!
Regrettably one of them will never grace the turf again!
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| Quote ="Quel Suprise!"Yes if bradford are third bottom, and have just lost to celtic and salford'"
they were 2nd bottom when they beat us but whilst we are pulling out all the stops bradford have beaten leeds and saints whilst on the flip side we hammered the team who beat them and lost very narrowly to saints.
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| Quote ="TRB"There are 6 or 7 in there that I would pick over what we have now!
Regrettably one of them will never grace the turf again!
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yeah but it works both ways. we have players now i would pick over players we had then
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"yeah but it works both ways. we have players now i would pick over players we had then'"
Go on then - how many?
I would have Drew and Brough - with Atkins who was here in 2006 but missed this game. Possibly Stosic - and that's it!
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| there are about 8/9 players in that 2006 squad who had no place in superleague imo
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"blanch snitch drew blaymire brough sausage for a start off top of my head'" drew for latu on bench, brough for rooney with bj going to 6 would blanch get on the wing instead of tadj or jd no to that atkins for hendo although hendo played well in the run in and thats about it. one thing strikes me about the pack then it had some grunt in it, some fight and players with bollox. ned, march, monty, adam, dunc, oli and korki theyd of mashed this lot in.
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| perspective is key here. if people wish to remember ned, monty etc on their odd best days versus the current crop when they are pished off after a loss, then those rose tinted glasses will always make it look good.
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thought we hyped him up too much pre season with the monty is coming placards but god he could tackle.
id have liked to see him stay one more season.
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| Quote ="chapster"weird in retrospect monty left too early.
thought we hyped him up too much pre season with the monty is coming placards but god he could tackle.
id have liked to see him stay one more season.'"
I always thought even his tackling was overrated, quite often people quoted his stats when he was third man, more doing the job of completing and marshalling as they get up to play the ball. I'm not saying his contribution was totally without merit; I just find it strange how people usually expect so much more from relatively big name overseas players, when for me he was pretty one-dimensional and nothing outstanding at that. I'd take Dunc over him anyday.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"id have that pack over this anyday'"
I'll say it again, it depends on what form.
- Griffin at his best undoubtedly, but as he was that year, no.
- Korki had his worst season in 2006 until the last few games.
- I was a huge Marchy fan, but Drew offers more going forward.
- Solo without a doubt.
- Watene and Dunc I'd consider consistently effective players - they'd make the 2009 team without question, but I don't think they are particularly better than Sausage or Ferguson (who I'm admittedly cutting a little slack as he's young for his position).
- Field - sound squad player, but no more. I'd take Snitch over him.
- Despite my above criticism of Betham, we still need a loose now.
- Moore is as good a prop as any in either squad.
- As would Elima, but he was never consistent enough.
Overall I think the current front row is stronger, even allowing for the loss of Sculthorpe, who, whatever the arguments, offered something different. in 2006 we only had 3 out and out props. What we had then was Solomona and an actual loose forward, who although not the kind of loose I'd rather have, suited us as Solo provided the added extra. Even if the 2006 pack was on top of its form, I'm not sure it was much better. As it was, it almost played its part in getting us relegated.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"drew for latu on bench, brough for rooney with bj going to 6 would blanch get on the wing instead of tadj or jd no to that atkins for hendo although hendo played well in the run in and thats about it. one thing strikes me about the pack then it had some grunt in it, some fight and players with bollox. ned, march, monty, adam, dunc, oli and korki theyd of mashed this lot in.'"
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| Quote ="adam9641"Halpenny, Demetriou, Evans, Henderson, Tadulala, Rooney, Jeffries, Watene, Obst, Korkidas, Solomona, MacGillivray, Betham.
Replacements: March, Elima, Catic, Latu
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A grand total of 2 homegrown players, for which we were roundly slated. is that what we want to see again? I think not.
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| Quote ="semitone"A grand total of 2 homegrown players, for which we were roundly slated. is that what we want to see again? I think not.'"
Shows how much we have improved in that area since Kear has come in
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