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| Quote ="El Barbudo"The way I read it, it's a three-year franchise.
Would the RFL =#FF0000kick them on the grounds of insufficient progress? I doubt it, as that would involve (maybe) promoting a team that didn't have the right player contracts or business plan in place, plus would possibly unbalance the structure of SL if there was no-one ready to be promoted.'"
Thought this applied to all SL clubs, not just us!
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Try asking Cas about their ground. After all Richard Wright was photographed 5 years ago with a hard hat in front of a digger 'at their new ground'.'"
Right, so Cas's promises are as empty as Wakefield's?
OK, point taken, thanks.
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| Quote ="vastman"Can anyone be bothered to reply to this ill informed b*llocks masquerading as opinion, I can't. None of the so called fans on here fighting Halifax cause gave a toss a few weeks ago. We are everyones favourite whipping boy and it's getting boring.'"
Ill-informed b*llox?
If so, engage with the argument and say what is wrong and where.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Thought this applied to all SL clubs, not just us!'"
No idea what your point is.
I was simply saying that (as I understand it), once in, you're in for three years.
I could be wrong on that ... am I?
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| jeeees , i think this fella needs taking to the vets and putting out of his misery.
i was gutted for for fax , i truly 101% was but the way how hes taken defeat is embarrassing , it would of been more appropriate to "not be pleased" without naming a club . how the hell does he know that Wakefield's proposal was not even better than other grade C's.
If he was banking on gaining SL because wakey were so bad who did he think widnes were replacing? , no one knew about crusaders resignation until the day 11am . they threw us a life line possibly but lets not forget that the turn around in 6 months alone by the new company should also be looked upon without prejudice .
i would like to see fax back in super league mainly for the fans but the chairman really needs to apologise to Wakefield as he as let himself , Halifax and the game down.
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| Quote ="truewiganer"thank you for that u arrogant git.
i was just asking the question cos the way that lewis prick said it, it suggested that u would be under scrutiny and that they could revoke ur any franchise at any point if they feel that any team is not up to it'"
I didn't see that ... now that is interesting, if indeed it's true.
(not suggesting you've made it up, by the way)
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| Quote ="vastman"Can anyone be bothered to reply to this ill informed b*llocks masquerading as opinion, I can't. None of the so called fans on here fighting Halifax cause gave a toss a few weeks ago. We are everyones favourite whipping boy and it's getting boring.'"
Prescatly.
Some of these boring know alls who think they have a right to preach to the
Wakefield supporters are real dullards aren't they?
Do they all aspire to be smokeyTA?
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| Quote ="truewiganer"i was just asking the question '"
If only. You were looking for a bite and you got one. Be happy.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"If only. You were looking for a bite and you got one. Be happy.'"
im guessing your looking for the last word , i think you may just of got your wish
thanks for you small contributions truewiganer now go and annoy someone else.
Many thanks by the way to all other posters from all RLfans on Tuesday we were expecting a very busy day and only 1 poster let themselves down and was given time out by us , sometimes however people don't learn.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Prescatly.
Some of these boring know alls who think they have a right to preach to the
Wakefield supporters are real dullards aren't they?
Do they all aspire to be smokeyTA?
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Remain uninformed and unwilling to engage in debate if you wish, that's your own choice, but please do bear in mind it's a message board.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Prescatly.
Some of these boring know alls who think they have a right to preach to the
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Dullard! An oft used term at chateau ginger bloke.
It's use here is quite apt Wildy.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Dullard! An oft used term at chateau ginger bloke.
It's use here is quite apt Wildy.'"
Indeed it is.
A self proclaimed 'informed' Dullard no less!
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Remain uninformed and unwilling to engage in debate if you wish, that's your own choice, but please do bear in mind it's a message board.'"
I'm not uninformed and I wish I were at liberty to expose some of the truths regarding Halifax's application, it would certainly send some of the indignant Fax fans scurrying and the Fax Chairman would/will/does look rather silly.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Remain uninformed and unwilling to engage in debate if you wish, that's your own choice, but please do bear in mind it's a message board.'"
There is no need for further debate the position has been more than adequately explained in numerous messages on this forum and the VT. If you can't grasp the situation aftere reading them, then there is no point in further debate.
I am with Vastman in that I am sick of ill-informed people from other clubs slagging us off at every opportunity. It was one of the reasons the championship didn't seem such a bad destination as someone else would then be the leper of SL.
Final points for you to consider, independent experts in various fields rated each application and they know considerably more about their respective professions than you or I. Your Chairman has consistently stated that we broke the rules in the last franchise, failing to acknowledge that the rule he was referring to was amended at the back end of last year after Crusaders went into admin.
His comments about our stadium were cringeworthy and as I have said before if he is a Solicitor, god help anyone he represents.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I'm not uninformed and I wish I were at liberty to expose some of the truths regarding Halifax's application, it would certainly send some of the indignant Fax fans scurrying and the Fax Chairman would/will/does look rather silly.'"
Ah, the old "I know but can't tell you" post.
Do you also know why the RFL told Halifax to get a case ready when Halifax were currently thinking of waiting until 2015?
Do you have the inside track on why the RFL went public in saying that, whilst Widnes were in, the Halifax bid was not dead in the water?
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Ah, the old "I know but can't tell you" post.
Do you also know why the RFL told Halifax to get a case ready when Halifax were currently thinking of waiting until 2015?
Do you have the inside track on why the RFL went public in saying that, whilst Widnes were in, the Halifax bid was not dead in the water?'"
Please yourself fella, I don't really care!
But be careful how much vitriol you post because if/when the truth comes out you'll look very stupid!
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Ah, the old "I know but can't tell you" post.
Do you also know why the RFL told Halifax to get a case ready when Halifax were currently thinking of waiting until 2015?
Do you have the inside track on why the RFL went public in saying that, whilst Widnes were in, the Halifax bid was not dead in the water?'"
At a guess I would suspect they were worried about both Crusaders and us and you were the insurance policy in case they weren't convinced our new owners could deliver.
I don't hear anybody from FAX acknowledging the fact that you were lucky to be given a second bite of the cherry, given that there was never any mention of this being a possibility in the lead up to you Widnes and Barrow submitting your franchise applications.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"There is no need for further debate the position has been more than adequately explained in numerous messages on this forum and the VT. If you can't grasp the situation aftere reading them, then there is no point in further debate.
I am with Vastman in that I am sick of ill-informed people from other clubs slagging us off at every opportunity. It was one of the reasons the championship didn't seem such a bad destination as someone else would then be the leper of SL.
Final points for you to consider, independent experts in various fields rated each application and they know considerably more about their respective professions than you or I. Your Chairman has consistently stated that we broke the rules in the last franchise, failing to acknowledge that the rule he was referring to was amended at the back end of last year after Crusaders went into admin.
His comments about our stadium were cringeworthy and as I have said before if he is a Solicitor, god help anyone he represents.'"
"Your" chairman?
Let me be clear, I'm a Leeds fan, I'm a neutral and just telling it how I see it.
The clear message around here is "Stop talking to us, we don't like it"
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| Quote ="The Clan"Please yourself fella, I don't really care!
But be careful how much vitriol you post because if/when the truth comes out you'll look very stupid!'"
He already does!
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| Quote ="The Clan"Please yourself fella, I don't really care!
But be careful how much vitriol you post because if/when the truth comes out you'll look very stupid!'"
Vitriol?
Don't be daft, robust debate is all it is.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo""Your" chairman?
Let me be clear, I'm a Leeds fan, I'm a neutral and just telling it how I see it.
The clear message around here is "Stop talking to us, we don't like it"'"
Well if you can't see it from what's already been posted then as I said there is no point. You have even less knowledge of the position than the Fax fans and certainly less knowledge than the likes of the Clan (as far as our application was concerned).
The clear message, is were sick of going over old ground when all this has already been done to death. We as fans and the club are trying to look forward and therefore we don't want to read ill-informed comments from other fans and the Halifax chairman.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309" ... At a guess I would suspect they were worried about both Crusaders and us and you were the insurance policy in case they weren't convinced our new owners could deliver.'"
At last, someone with a bit of sense.
Quote ="Tricky2309" ... I don't hear anybody from FAX acknowledging the fact that you were lucky to be given a second bite of the cherry, given that there was never any mention of this being a possibility in the lead up to you Widnes and Barrow submitting your franchise applications.'"
As I understand it, it's the other way round really, that Halifax were not going to apply this time but were encouraged to do so by the RFL.
Then, when they see Crusaders retracting their application at the very last second, they could be forgiven for thinking that the RFL have side-stepped the decision about Wakefield.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Vitriol?
Don't be daft, robust debate is all it is.'"
If debate it is then be prepared to accept that on certain important points you're wrong. I don't claim to be an insider but solely due to my whereabouts on Tuesday and the people I was in the company of, I was made aware of certain facts by people who are on the inside and I'm not referring to anyone at Wakefield Trinity.
The Halifax Chairman will no doubt go very quiet and on receiving feedback from the RFL might reflect with some regret his numerous outbursts.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"At last, someone with a bit of sense.
As I understand it, it's the other way round really, that Halifax were not going to apply this time but were encouraged to do so by the RFL.
Then, when they see Crusaders retracting their application at the very last second, they could be forgiven for thinking that the RFL have side-stepped the decision about Wakefield.'"
Clearly if Halifax were the insurance policy for us, then the decision to keep us in based on input from independent experts should surely quash the whole argument. Halifax were only ever going to be in, if we didn't match up to the requirements and we did end of discussion.
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