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| Quote ="Come On The Trin"Sorry - Have I missed something.....?
Would he REALLY take a Quota spot?
If that is the case then I'd tend to agree, not worth a quota space otherwise a worth a gamble IMHO.'"
Long since lost track of how rules for SL quota & non fed work but he is not a quota player at Championship Level. Papua New Guinea is covered by the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotonou_AgreementCotonou Agreement[/url so subject to visa/permit Papuans are not classed as overseas players. Of course this being RL there is no guarantee that the same rules apply to all clubs/competitions.
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| Quote ="Wembley '83"Long since lost track of how rules for SL quota & non fed work but he is not a quota player at Championship Level. Papua New Guinea is covered by the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotonou_AgreementCotonou Agreement[/url so subject to visa/permit Papuans are not classed as overseas players. Of course this being RL there is no guarantee that the same rules apply to all clubs/competitions.'"
Under SL rules I would have thought he would count as Non-federation trained (not quota) but assuming the number of non-fed places reduces along with the quota places then still not worth taking that place either IMO.
This year it is 6 non-fed of which 5 can be Quota players I believe. Is next year 5 non-fed of which 4 can be quota????
Perhaps someone can confirm but my thoughts are that we currently have:
Quota - BJ, Morrison, Millard, Obst
Non-Fed - Laeano
I know BJ and now Morrison are signed up for next year already. I think we signed Millard on 2 year deal. Sam I believe is also signed up for 2011. That would mean the only overseas place we have for next year is the non-fed place and so Jesse Joe Parker is maybe a gamble we can't afford at this moment in time. Hoping to see enough from Charlie to mean he will take that place next year.
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| done deal just spoke to my mate
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| Quote ="bren2k"One for the future; a forward-looking signing if true and another indication of increased confidence at WTW?'"
The problem with "one for the future signings," is as soon as they make a name at Wakey, they are given away to another club to persue their career. We need players that will advance Wakefield Wildcats now and be happy to stay, to see out their contracts.
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| Quote ="Sun Bed Kid"done deal just spoke to my mate
1 year deal option of a 2nd'"
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| Good player at our level. Not the best centre in the championship and in some games this season, not the best centre at Fev!!!
I'd stick with him if he'd signed an extension cos he'll do a cracking job at this level. But - he's signed a one year deal with wakey.
He's not anywhere near SL quality IMO. He has neither the pace, athleticism or defensive abilities for SL, even at a club like Wakey i.e. not Leeds, Wigan Saints!!
Begs me to wonder why Wakey are offering deals to the quality of player like Jesse and not proven players in that position. As TRB suggests, confidence in a licence must be very questionable.
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| Quote ="Wrencat"The problem with "one for the future signings," is as soon as they make a name at Wakey, they are given away to another club to persue their career. We need players that will advance Wakefield Wildcats now and be happy to stay, to see out their contracts.'"
If you come down to the championship wait for it then!!
Players like young Richie Newlove, jamie Rooney, Danny Kirmond, Jesse Joe Parker - all of whom "made a name for themselves" at Fev, ended up persuing their careers at other clubs!
Can be a right pain in the @rse!!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Good player at our level. Not the best centre in the championship and in some games this season, not the best centre at Fev!!!
I'd stick with him if he'd signed an extension cos he'll do a cracking job at this level. But - he's signed a one year deal with wakey.
He's not anywhere near SL quality IMO. He has neither the pace, athleticism or defensive abilities for SL, even at a club like Wakey i.e. not Leeds, Wigan Saints!!
Begs me to wonder why Wakey are offering deals to the quality of player like Jesse and not proven players in that position. As TRB suggests, confidence in a licence must be very questionable.'"
Agree totally about Parker, completely different level playing against keighley etc than to that even at the lower end of sl
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"If you come down to the championship wait for it then!!
Players like young Richie Newlove, jamie Rooney, Danny Kirmond, Jesse Joe Parker - all of whom "made a name for themselves" at Fev, ended up persuing their careers at other clubs!
Can be a right pain in the @rse!!'"
Richard Whiting too.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"If you come down to the championship wait for it then!!
Players like young Richie Newlove, jamie Rooney, Danny Kirmond, Jesse Joe Parker - all of whom "made a name for themselves" at Fev, ended up persuing their careers at other clubs!
Can be a right pain in the @rse!!'"
Yes and there are so many other great ex Fev players, who left to ply their trade elsewhere.
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| Have to agree....Richard Whiting is a right pain in the @rse...he usually manages to score against us !!!!
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| Quote ="Wrencat"Yes and there are so many other great ex Fev players, who left to ply their trade elsewhere.'"
absolutely! But I assume you take my point???
Players leave clubs to 'develop their careers'! Wakey have 'predated' clubs in the lower leagues for their best players.
Bigger SL clubs may do the same with Wakey. It happens. We hope the one's I mentioned would have stayed at Fev - they didn't! C'est la vie.
When/if your club is relegated to championship rugby, you'll see that harsh reality of life much more often!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"absolutely! But I assume you take my point???
Players leave clubs to 'develop their careers'! Wakey have 'predated' clubs in the lower leagues for their best players.
Bigger SL clubs may do the same with Wakey. It happens. We hope the one's I mentioned would have stayed at Fev - they didn't! C'est la vie.
When/if your club is relegated to championship rugby, you'll see that harsh reality of life much more often!'"
I do indeed take your point, I only hope that your last comment doesn't happen. Players do indeed move from club to club, but Wakefield needs to make it's mark now. Otherwise, we may be visiting Post Office Road on a seasonal basis.
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| Not trolling here - but I genuinely think our good friday games will be back on the fixture list soon!!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Not trolling here - but I genuinely think our good friday games will be back on the fixture list soon!!'"
You think Fev have that good a chance of playing Super League soon?
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| no! Don't think I'll ever see Fev in SL unless there is a dramatic wholesale change in direction. Why did you ask?
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Not trolling here - but I genuinely think our good friday games will be back on the fixture list soon!!'"
I wouldnt disagree on that.
Everyone knows that if the stadium situation doesnt move forward drastically for Cas and Wakey,in all probability at least one of us will be out of super league.
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| Would have preffered Menze Yere at Sheffield
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Good player at our level. Not the best centre in the championship and in some games this season, not the best centre at Fev!!!
I'd stick with him if he'd signed an extension cos he'll do a cracking job at this level. But - he's signed a one year deal with wakey.
He's not anywhere near SL quality IMO. He has neither the pace, athleticism or defensive abilities for SL, even at a club like Wakey i.e. not Leeds, Wigan Saints!!
Begs me to wonder why Wakey are offering deals to the quality of player like Jesse and not proven players in that position. =#BF0040As TRB suggests, confidence in a licence must be very questionable.'"
It's not a question of confidence at this end - it's more that we, as responsible employers, cannot promise that isn't in our hands to deliver. As we found with Brough, it is difficult to compete with the likes of Huddersfield when they are guaranteed a place in the next round of licences. Anyone joining Wakefield could end up having a contract cancelled at the end of next year.
All this uncertainty is not good for the club and we really look forward to the planning issue being sorted quickly!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"no! Don't think I'll ever see Fev in SL unless there is a dramatic wholesale change in direction. Why did you ask?'"
Your point that you will be playing us on Good Fridays, i assumed you are confident of coming up!
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| ! Oh yeh! Really confident!
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| Any idea when an anouncement might be made about the stadium Phil ?
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| If there is any link with with your development proceeding and WMDC, ie they are putting money in, I understand that a decision will be made late summer on spending cuts. From what I can gather the budget cuts will be in several millions (rumour is £20m+) so you could probably draw your own conclusions if Trinity and Cas are likely to get any Council funding!
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| Quote ="ARover"If there is any link with with your development proceeding and WMDC, ie they are putting money in, I understand that a decision will be made late summer on spending cuts. From what I can gather the budget cuts will be in several millions (rumour is £20m+) so you could probably draw your own conclusions if Trinity and Cas are likely to get any Council funding!'"
Privately funded, so no need to worry on our behalf.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Privately funded, so no need to worry on our behalf.
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I can't believe we get posts after all this time from people who have no idea about the funding situation. It seems that they have knowledge on other parts of the development but not on funding issues.
Strange, i think so.
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