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| Quote ="jonh"Agree mate, a win is a win, but the way some are going on you were superb tonight, in my opinion you were average beating a poor side on the day, you are capable and have been much better this season without the hype surronding what was in my opinion a very below par Wakefield performance.'" it was scrappy we dropped ball and i think we can play better.the play offs will be pressure i think leeds will get there then the other spot could be anybodys, if we can perform who knows we can score points.
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| Quote ="jonh"Always been a fan of no relegation, next step is the feeder club system in my opinion.
2 massive errors with the cap in my opinion are limiting it to a set ammount rather than linking it to turnover and also failing to reward teams for having Academy produced players in the first team and also for failing to reward teams who have players produced from the Academy that become International players.'"
Been there before,open to abuse,does not work and causes an imbalence.
As for your points re Academy could'nt agree more also need to look at the whole system underneath the elite comp re Reserve Grade and Acadamy.
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| Quote ="The Trip"Been there before,open to abuse,does not work and causes an imbalence.As for your points re Academy could'nt agree more also need to look at the whole system underneath the elite comp re Reserve Grade and Acadamy.'"
Imbalance? Is that so wrong if all teams are striving to maximise there turnover, surely it can only be good for the game.
It is only open to abuse with the garbage administration at Red Hall.
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| Quote ="jonh"Imbalance? Is that so wrong if all teams are striving to maximise there turnover, surely it can only be good for the game.
It is only open to abuse with the garbage administration at Red Hall.'"
Or certain clubs persistently doing there sums wrong !!
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| Quote ="The Trip"Or certain clubs persistently doing there sums wrong !!'"
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| Quote ="jonh"Wigan
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Exactly,that's why it don't work.
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| Quote ="The Trip"Exactly,that's why it don't work.'"
We have never had a cap that is connected directly to turnover, we have had a cap that limits spend regards turnover but does not reward it, and now we have a cap that allows clubs to spend full cap regardless of turnover.
I am not sure highlighting the failings of a set cap enhances your support of it?!
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| We had a system that allowed a percentage of the clubs turnover to be spent directly on players salarys.
That system clearly did not work.
This system as a clearly defined cap.
At present we as a club do not use the maximum because clearly we do not generate the turnover at present to furnish it.
Wigan as a club can generate the revenue to use all the cap, good on youse.
If in the future,new stadium extra revenue we can use the full cap so be it.
The franchise system within the game also ensure's that clubs do not live beyond their means (allowing for some expansion clubs).
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| Quote ="The Trip"We had a system that allowed a percentage of the clubs turnover to be spent directly on players salarys.
That system clearly did not work.
This system as a clearly defined cap.
At present we as a club do not use the maximum because clearly we do not generate the turnover at present to furnish it.
Wigan as a club can generate the revenue to use all the cap, good on youse.
If in the future,new stadium extra revenue we can use the full cap so be it.
The franchise system within the game also ensure's that clubs do not live beyond their means (allowing for some expansion clubs).'"
If we had a 50% revenue system Wigan would not be at the front of the queue.
What it would mean is all clubs would strive to grow and there would be no comfort zone, the current system of the cap allows for poor working practice and lack of inovation to be rewarded.
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| Quote ="jonh"If we had a 50% revenue system Wigan would not be at the front of the queue.
What it would mean is all clubs would strive to grow and there would be no comfort zone, the current system of the cap allows for poor working practice and lack of inovation to be rewarded.'"
Yet "Leeds or Saints will win the GF" quote.
Your above statement sounds like it's some goverment propaganda bull....
Of course every clubs striving for success. There's been and will never be no comfort zone @ Wakey.
Good nite/interesting views.
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| Quote ="The Trip"Yet "Leeds or Saints will win the GF" quote.
Your above statement sounds like it's some goverment propaganda bull....
Of course every clubs striving for success. There's been and will never be no comfort zone @ Wakey.
Good nite/interesting views.'"
There is always a comfort zone with rules that encourage a level playing field rather than innovation and growth.
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| good season for you guys.. better than most fans predicted
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| Quote ="jonh"There is always a comfort zone with rules that encourage a level playing field rather than innovation and growth.'"
You been banned from the Wigan board.?
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| Fantastic stuff from the boys, now lets kick on, A win at home in play off's another record that needs to be broken.... see you all at Hearwell stadium, get your tickets early guys.
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| Really good effort from the team this year have done better than anyone could have expected. Now for a good run in the play offs!
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| Quote ="J.T"Really good effort from the team this year have done better than anyone could have expected. Now for a good run in the play offs!'"
Thing is, if you look at the teams we might have to play - its really hard not to get carried away with or expectations. Nobody in particularly devastating form at the moment, even Saints looking more than a bit shakey....
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| No reason to fear anybody in the play-offs, the only teams we haven`t taken points off this season are Leeds (Should have), and Giants - 2nd half implosion at Home, good effort at the Galpharm. 1 win each against those 2 and we could have finished 3rd/4th
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| Quote ="semitone"No reason to fear anybody in the play-offs, the only teams we haven`t taken points off this season are Leeds (Should have), and Giants - 2nd half implosion at Home, good effort at the Galpharm. 1 win each against those 2 and we could have finished 3rd/4th
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HKR have failed to take the points off Leeds and Hudds ... makes me think these two could feature in the grand final.
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| Quote ="Jason"Been watching Wakey for over 30 years. I remember we came 4th in the early 80s. Could have been second but we lost our last game of the season away at Cas. I enjoyed 2004 (think). But this has surpassed it. Please enjoy itl as history suggests it may be a while since we reach these heights again. THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS. Enjoy!'"
yep should have won the league that season if it was not for a league double we lost to Barrow
Being waiting years for a season like this and its not over yet who knows what the next month will bring
As for the likes of Martin Offiah who had us down for 14th up yours Mr Offiah
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| We were fairly average, but I'd take beating the third placed team whilst playing average as a sign of a more experienced team able to approach the play offs with some maturity. Some of the commentary was critical, both in terms of within the game and how it compared Wakey/KR to others in the top 8, although at least Stevo had the sense to see kicking dead for territory was controlling the game. What I think some on Sky seemed to forget was how bad other teams have been playing. Saints look well out of touch, Hudds looked good for a long while but have shown they can be beaten and Leeds had a poor patch a month or so ago.
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| Quote ="jonh"Hats off to the leveling down ethos of the cap in its current form.'"
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| Quote ="Haywire"Thing is, if you look at the teams we might have to play - its really hard not to get carried away with or expectations. Nobody in particularly devastating form at the moment, even Saints looking more than a bit shakey....'"
Very true and with us carrying a good bit of form into the play offs we should have a really good crack at it.
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| Quote ="jonh"But yet Leeds or Saints will still win it.
I am all for the cap, but in its current form it does little for the game, and it could easily be altered to enhance all the pro's you state above.
We do need a cap, just the current form is in my opinion not the best way to go about it.'"
Explain a fairer way then.
I think there could be some encouragement of player development.
For example, maybe 2 players who have come through your own system not be included until they reach a certain age, or played so many games. But other than something like that, it seems to have done a pretty good job.
There is no cap in girlie-ball, but you can pick the champions from only 20% of the league. And will only change with wads of dosh, and take a while.
And who would have said at the start of the season that neither Leeds or Saints would reach Wembley.
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