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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Read the thread.'"
what all of it?
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| Quote ="roversmad"And?'"
Simple really read the posts'on this page
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| Alcohol and rugby players is a major problem at all clubs, sadly half the players are too thick to realise where the line is. Young men, first team rugby a bit of attention and they think they can get away with murder at times.
I was slightly suprised to see Danny Brough enjoying a beer at half 11 in the morning at the Stanley Rangers event the other week stood around the autogrph table. He may not have been breaking any rules but at some stage common sence has to come into play.
Its not just a problem at Trinity it is problem across the sport in the UK, nd i am talking about the lack of active brain cells some of these players have rather than simply alcohol, sadly i do not think there is anyway we can reslove this aspect.
Union clubs get a lot of stick in league circles for there "public school" mentality, but generlly bar a few exceptions the players are for more considered in there actions and when something does go amiss better at closing ranks and dealing with it in house.
You can chuck education at the lads in the pro systems all you like but my opinion by the this time it is too late, and it should be dealt with as a wider issue of society, but that is another debate.
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| Quote ="jonh"Alcohol and rugby players is a major problem at all clubs, sadly half the players are too thick to realise where the line is. Young men, first team rugby a bit of attention and they think they can get away with murder at times.
I was slightly suprised to see Danny Brough enjoying a beer at half 11 in the morning at the Stanley Rangers event the other week stood around the autogrph table. He may not have been breaking any rules but at some stage common sence has to come into play.
Its not just a problem at Trinity it is problem across the sport in the UK, nd i am talking about the lack of active brain cells some of these players have rather than simply alcohol, sadly i do not think there is anyway we can reslove this aspect.
Union clubs get a lot of stick in league circles for there "public school" mentality, but generlly bar a few exceptions the players are for more considered in there actions and when something does go amiss better at closing ranks and dealing with it in house.
You can chuck education at the lads in the pro systems all you like but my opinion by the this time it is too late, and it should be dealt with as a wider issue of society, but that is another debate.'"
Same as Mcoldrick, he has a beer. Don't see anything wrong with it. They work hard through the week so a few pints is no harm imo they do have a life outside rugby too you know.
Don't see why the need of a full drinking ban during the season. They are not allowed to drink so many days before a game which is fine and understandable.
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| Quote ="roversmad"And?'"
the driver had hidden the cans as per club , the players got told no drinking they should react to that .
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| Quote ="chissitt"And on full pay irrespective of the alleged offence.'"
not always , its common place for professional sports stars to be fined wages by their club whereas a machine op from linpac would off course be suspended on full pay
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| Quote ="adam9641"Same as Mcoldrick, he has a beer. Don't see anything wrong with it. They work hard through the week so a few pints is no harm imo they do have a life outside rugby too you know.
Don't see why the need of a full drinking ban during the season. They are not allowed to drink so many days before a game which is fine and understandable.'"
A drinking ban is not needed. As adults and professional athletes, they should be expected to adhere to club rules (if this means not drinking on official club business so be it) and respect their bodies (have a few pints by all means without hindering you're own performance).
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"A drinking ban is not needed. As adults and professional athletes, they should be expected to adhere to club rules (if this means not drinking on official club business so be it) and respect their bodies.'"
Agreed, but just like anyone they should be alowed to go out and have good laugh can help team bonding too
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"A drinking ban is not needed. As adults and professional athletes, they should be expected to adhere to club rules (if this means not drinking on official club business so be it) and respect their bodies (have a few pints by all means without hindering you're own performance).'"
well said that man .
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| Quote ="adam9641"Agreed, but just like anyone they should be alowed to go out and have good laugh can help team bonding too
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Indeed but even then there is a limit. We all saw the consequences of the Westgate night out.
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| However you look at it, Sculthorpe and Brough broke the rules. They have been punished and that should be the end of it. If one player doesn't want to accept the rules set to all then he should leave.
The grass isn't alway greener elsewhere and i'm sure Danny S will find that out soon enough.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Indeed but even then there is a limit. We all saw the consequences of the Westgate night out.'"
That was only a few of players and others trying to calm it down, but they all took reasonability. It did shame the club, but least they have not made same mistake twice
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| How do people know that the cans were hidden?
It does not say that in the Sun article and I understood that conjecture on here without fact to back it up is not allowed.
Is that a fact stated somewhere or just rumour?
Have Wakey Trinity advised this?
Not a wind up, genuine query. Unless fact you need to be careful as there could be a court case according to Danny S father
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| Quote ="Walrus"How do people know that the cans were hidden?
It does not say that in the Sun article and I understood that conjecture on here without fact to back it up is not allowed.
Is that a fact stated somewhere or just rumour?
Have Wakey Trinity advised this?
Not a wind up, genuine query.'"
They always forget to put the facts in, often twist words to make it sounds much worse etc.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Same as Mcoldrick, he has a beer. Don't see anything wrong with it. They work hard through the week so a few pints is no harm imo they do have a life outside rugby too you know.
Don't see why the need of a full drinking ban during the season. They are not allowed to drink so many days before a game which is fine and understandable.'"
I am not pro a drinking ban whatsoever but i do think at a public apperance at 11-30 in the morning at a family event the day after you have been knocked out of the cup, it is hardly the appropriate time to be having a drink in my opinion.
Its about common sence as for all things in life there is a time and a place, i personally do not think that is it. Its all about setting standards, having a drink with the boys is great and can be a great way to bond the lads but you simply have to understand that there are wider implications to your actions with the example you are setting.
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| Agree jonh,
Looks bad when there are kids around who idolise these people.
Nightclub/pub well before/after a game subject to club rules is fine but when representing your club at an event is not fine IMO
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| Quote ="jonh"I am not pro a drinking ban whatsoever but i do think at a public apperance at 11-30 in the morning at a family event the day after you have been knocked out of the cup, it is hardly the appropriate time to be having a drink in my opinion.
Its about common sence as for all things in life there is a time and a place, i personally do not think that is it. Its all about setting standards, having a drink with the boys is great and can be a great way to bond the lads but you simply have to understand that there are wider implications to your actions with the example you are setting.'"
So do you tthink it was wrong time for Mcoldrick (sp) to be having a drink?
I don't see anything wrong with it tbh, he is there giving his time up for a good cause and putting money into the club house, aslong as he did not get pis[ised[/i it don't matter. A couple of pints is not going to harm anyone
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| Quote ="adam9641"They always forget to put the facts in, often twist words to make it sounds much worse etc.'"
It is what the club requested - and was done, just not very well apparently!
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| Quote ="TRB"It is what the club requested - and was done, just not very well apparently!'"
What the club asked for lies to be printed?
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| Quote ="adam9641"So do you tthink it was wrong time for Mcoldrick (sp) to be having a drink?
I don't see anything wrong with it tbh, he is there giving his time up for a good cause and putting money into the club house, aslong as he did not get pis[ised[/i it don't matter. A couple of pints is not going to harm anyone'"
No player in my opinion should have been drinking at the event, especially at that time in the day. Did not see McGoldrick having a beer which is why i did not comment initially.
This is the mentality we need to change, the 24-36 hours after a game are crucial for recovery from the performance i do not think i need to tell you beer is not going to help this recovery. I can understand the night of a game day the lads going out for a beer to celebrate, but the day after in the morning of a family event, certainly not the time i feel they should be drinking while in the public eye.
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| Quote ="adam9641"What the club asked for lies to be printed?
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What the $%&* are you on about???
The club asked for the beer to be removed from the fridge!
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| Quote ="TRB"What the $%&* are you on about???
The club asked for the beer to be removed from the fridge!
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The sun article said the beer was in the fridge with a price list.
The beer was NOT in the fridge as it was removed.
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| Quote ="adam9641"The sun article said the beer was in the fridge with a price list.
The beer was NOT in the fridge as it was removed.'"
SCULLY's DAD made those comments.
I am telling you the other side of the story.
Believe the SUN / believe your own club - your choice!
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| Quote ="TRB"SCULLY's DAD made those comments.
I am telling you the other side of the story.
Believe the SUN / believe your own club - your choice!'"
I know he did but I am saying the sun miss the facts out as always, never make 100% sure of the story.
They reported the beer was in the fridge, but it was removed. So therfore loads of
And you don't need to tell me anything, thnaks anyway
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