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| What gets my goat is that Hull can support a championship football team and 2 Superleague rugby teams Sheffield 2 football teams Leeds a championship football team and a superleague rugby team all with superb stadium Evan Barnsley have a championship football team with a modern stadium but Wakefield are paphetic in comparison.
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| Quote ="Oddshapeball"What gets my goat is that Hull can support a championship football team and 2 Superleague rugby teams Sheffield 2 football teams Leeds a championship football team and a superleague rugby team all with superb stadium Evan Barnsley have a championship football team with a modern stadium but Wakefield are paphetic in comparison.'"
Don’t forget little old Huddersfield who also support a premiership football team as well as a SL team.
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| You can go on and on with the list
Doncaster have a League 1 Football team, a Championship 1 RL team and. Championship RU team
Rotherham have a League 1 Football team and a Championship 1 RU team
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| Yes it makes Wakefield MDC a laughing stock.
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| Is Box Putting a new S106 together before planning is approved for further development at Newmarket?.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"You can go on and on with the list
Doncaster have a League 1 Football team, a Championship 1 RL team and. Championship RU team
Rotherham have a League 1 Football team and a Championship 1 RU team'"
Even York with a fifth rate football team and third rate RL team are backed to a great degree by their council in their sporting facilities'
I maintain that the City of Wakefield, below their Fleur De Lys coat of Arms, should have the motto: "TEK ALL, GIV NOWT"
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| And as parking charges we're mentioned earlier in the thread it was mentioned on Ridings FM today record taking from pinderfields parking I think they said 3 million. I wonder where that will be spent, I bet I still have my council tax increased.
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| Quote ="Oddshapeball"And as parking charges we're mentioned earlier in the thread it was mentioned on Ridings FM today record taking from pinderfields parking I think they said 3 million. I wonder where that will be spent, I bet I still have my council tax increased.'"
I'm no lover of the council but not sure how you can blame parking charges at Pinders on them. It raises money for the NHS which is a good thing in my opinion. Probably to treat ill health caused by lack of sports facilities in the City caused by the council.
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| Quote ="Oddshapeball"And as parking charges we're mentioned earlier in the thread it was mentioned on Ridings FM today record taking from pinderfields parking I think they said 3 million. I wonder where that will be spent, I bet I still have my council tax increased.'"
Balfour Beaty own Pinderfields, NHS, council whoever pay rent, barmy I know so I imagine they also net the 3 million. It’s too daft to laugh at, there must have been some massive brown envelopes dished out
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Balfour Beaty own Pinderfields, NHS, council whoever pay rent, barmy I know so I imagine they also net the 3 million. It’s too daft to laugh at, there must have been some massive brown envelopes dished out
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Glad you never said allegedly you could have had a yellow card the jobs worth out tonight
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Glad you never said allegedly you could have had a yellow card
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Balfour Beaty own Pinderfields, NHS, council whoever pay rent, barmy I know so I imagine they also net the 3 million. It’s too daft to laugh at, there must have been some massive brown envelopes dished out
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As far as I'm aware Big Lad, income from the parking is independant of the Balfour Beatty nvolvement and parking revenue goes to the Mid- Yorkshire NHS
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| No, it's BB alright. And all done under a Labour PFI, before anyone starts singing the Red Flag.
Missus has her nurses parking payment deducted from her wage by the Trust, on behalf of BB.
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| Quote ="dboy"No, it's BB alright. And all done under a Labour PFI, before anyone starts singing the Red Flag.
Missus has her nurses parking payment deducted from her wage by the Trust, on behalf of BB.'"
Stinks, I rest my case
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| Well you all know what to do don't vote for them.
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| Quote ="dboy"No, it's BB alright. And all done under a Labour PFI, before anyone starts singing the Red Flag.
Missus has her nurses parking payment deducted from her wage by the Trust, on behalf of BB.'"
I'm a socialist, and don't agree with PFI at all, but tell me how else we were going to get a new hospital built in Wakefield then dboy
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| Quote ="dboy"No, it's BB alright. And all done under a Labour PFI, before anyone starts singing the Red Flag.
Missus has her nurses parking payment deducted from her wage by the Trust, on behalf of BB.'"
Unbelievable, most other trusts parking charges go back to into the NHS i.e. Leeds teaching trust thought that would be the case at Pinders.
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| Quote ="Redscat"I'm a socialist, and don't agree with PFI at all, but tell me how else we were going to get a new hospital built in Wakefield then dboy'"
Perhaps we could let a developer have some land out of the green belt and a S106 saying they have to build a hospital in return for the planning gain. Oh, hang on............
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Balfour Beaty own Pinderfields, NHS, council whoever pay rent, barmy I know so I imagine[u they also net the 3 million[/u. It’s too daft to laugh at, there must have been some massive brown envelopes dished out
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They do. BB also has a number of other contracts with them , such as security and the washing and cleaning etc.
I also remember a piece in the Express when Pinderfields had completed its first year saying basically complaining how much BB had netted in parking that year.
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| Quote ="dboy"No, it's BB alright. And all done under a Labour PFI, before anyone starts singing the Red Flag.
This lot in Wakefield are not true socialists.
The same thing would probably have been done with a tory council.
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| Quote ="dboy"No, it's BB alright. And all done under a Labour PFI, before anyone starts singing the Red Flag.
Missus has her nurses parking payment deducted from her wage by the Trust, on behalf of BB.'"
BB made a fortune out of the PFI then sold it on for a massive profit to Cofely, who made a massive profit when they sold it on to Engie, who are the current profiteers. I believe that all the profits are put through an offshore holding to minimise UK taxation as well.
PFI was started by the Tories under Major, and continued with great enthusiasm by the Tories under Blair. It’s a system whereby the private sector takes massive profits but all the risk is borne by the taxpayer. It is bleeding billions out of health, education and other budgets to the detriment of those services.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"BB made a fortune out of the PFI then sold it on for a massive profit to Cofely, who made a massive profit when they sold it on to Engie, who are the current profiteers. I believe that all the profits are put through an offshore holding to minimise UK taxation as well
PFI was started by the Tories under Major, and continued with great enthusiasm by the Tories under Blair. It’s a system whereby the private sector takes massive profits but all the risk is borne by the taxpayer. It is bleeding billions out of health, education and other budgets to the detriment of those services.'"
Do you mean under Labour by Blair - though I accept it hard to tell them apart.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"
Not a lot of people are true socialists full stop - if they were I'd join them. Sadly a great theory is left powerless by human nature.
The real reason this scheme happened is that people will not pay the correct level of taxes needed to maintain the NHS. Not just rich people but all people.
Until funding the NHS becomes a priority over two weeks in Benidorm or a new BMW these schemes will persist and profiteering will be rife.
All we have done is replace bent civil servants and politicians with uber efficient businessmen who know how to extract every last penny from the public purse.
Exactly what you are seeing at NM. We only have ourselves to blame, as a nation we are now very shallow, full of hot air and indignation about tiny issues that don't matter whilst the real issues remain untouched.
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| Quote ="vastman"Do you mean under Labour by Blair - though I accept it hard to tell them apart.'"
No, I meant what I said. Thatcher considered Blair to be her successor over and above Major, who she despised.
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| Quote ="vastman"
Two weeks in Benidorm pales into insignificance over owning your own Caribbean island paid for by dodged taxes. Until that’s tackled worldwide we’ll see increasing division between the mega rich and the rest of us. The EU have plans to start tackling it, which is why BREXIT really happened - the myth of taking back control used to stoke racism is a smoke screen hiding the influence of seriously wealthy establishment and corporate figures who feared the new regs due to come into law in the EU in March 2019.
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