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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"TBF Normy do have a rep for blowing up early/extending match time . Do we? Thought it was the referee who blew the whistle and not Normanton Knights.
BTW its obvious that an asthma sufferer will suffer more in defence than in attack , you clearly don't have any proper knowledge of the game or the the condition asthma's . to accuse a kid of cheating is diabolical IMO ....
good luck for rest of season'"
BTW, it is'nt obvious that an asthma sufferer would suffer more in defence than attack, over the many years I have been involved in junior and youth rugby the sufferer needed their inhaler as and when required,usually after alot of excersion.
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| Quote ="Normy Knight"BTW, it is'nt obvious that an asthma sufferer would suffer more in defence than attack, over the many years I have been involved in junior and youth rugby the sufferer needed their inhaler as and when required,usually after alot of excersion.
Good luck for the rest of your season as well.'"
which is more likely after 3/4 consecutive tackles rather than one run
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| Quote ="Outwood Vic"which is more likely after 3/4 consecutive tackles rather than one run
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Now who's showing their lack of knowledge of rugby at junior level, A player is the first man in for 3/4 consecutive tackles?
Then again a player could do a full length of the pitch to score a try, even a non sufferer would be out of breath.
Look I'm not into petty trivial arguments trying to score points,or using others for arguments sake. Asthma sufferer's play and will continue to do so and good for for them, if THEIR parents think it is unsafe to do so they should'nt let them play especially if medical advice says otherwise.
At the end of the day just let the kids play,they enjoy it ,winning or losing is not as relevent as learning to play the game,at 12yo they are on a very big learning curve and referee's and decisions are on that curve.
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| Quote ="Normy Knight"Now who's showing their lack of knowledge of rugby at junior level, A player is the first man in for 3/4 consecutive tackles?
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sorry got to disagree OV as plenty of knowledge coaching kids and adults . as for me a asthma sufferer and ex player n coach i can assure you that defense is the most enduring part of any game of RL even if your not involved in the tackle you have to give 10 meters after.
I to not interested in the petty argument side but feel i must stand up for OV , i also have a degree sports injuries and fitness so maybe I'm wasting my breath (sorry bad punn) but on this occasion you are wrong .
any one would think you are still a little bitter about the fllodlightgate
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| Quote ="Normy Knight"Now who's showing their lack of knowledge of rugby at junior level, A player is the first man in for 3/4 consecutive tackles?
Then again a player could do a full length of the pitch to score a try, even a non sufferer would be out of breath.
Look I'm not into petty trivial arguments trying to score points,or using others for arguments sake. Asthma sufferer's play and will continue to do so and good for for them, if THEIR parents think it is unsafe to do so they should'nt let them play especially if medical advice says otherwise.
At the end of the day just let the kids play,they enjoy it ,winning or losing is not as relevent as learning to play the game,at 12yo they are on a very big learning curve and referee's and decisions are on that curve.'"
Silly man More chance of making 3/4 tackles from marker position, then dropping into line and having to make 10yds after every tackle (as pointed out by mutts) than there is of making a full length break..........
I bow to your superior knowledge of Junior Rugby.
Good Luck with rest of your season. (and if you think learning to cope/deal with refs even at 12's is not part of their learning curve, your proving my point even more )
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| Quote ="Outwood Vic"Stanley Rangers u 10's are at home to Drighlington on Saturday morning 10.30am at Ferry Lane.'"
Forgot to post result, we won 30-16 i think, not a good performance at all. But at least i had nearly a full squad for a change.
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| back on topic, tommorow cas panthers u10s host eastmoor dragons u10s 10.30 only 3 home defeats in 3 years for the panthers and two of those defeats were inflicted by the dragons so a tough morning is expected.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"back on topic, tommorow cas panthers u10s host eastmoor dragons u10s 10.30 only 3 home defeats in 3 years for the panthers and two of those defeats were inflicted by the dragons so a tough morning is expected.'"
When did it go Off Topic
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| home game tomorrow in the BARLA quarter final cup for the Stanley Rangers under 12s against the first division side Oulton Rangers, we narrowly lost to them last season 16 -10 so hope for it to be as close again,
also pleased to hear after last weeks game that from the 12s upwards neutral refs will be asked to ref games in the league and so it should, it eliminates arguments over decisions which can implement an unfair advantage due to having contact with either club
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| Quote ="snowie"home game tomorrow in the BARLA quarter final cup for the Stanley Rangers under 12s against the first division side Oulton Rangers, we narrowly lost to them last season 16 -10 so hope for it to be as close again,
also pleased to hear after last weeks game that from the 12s upwards neutral refs will be asked to ref games in the league and so it should, it eliminates arguments over decisions which can implement an unfair advantage due to having contact with either club'"
Snowie I hear what your saying and agree with it,but has it been thought out properly?
I think Kenny T has opened a pandora's box for himself here.
The 3 ref's from Normanton don't drive so problem No1. 2 of them play rugby themselves and the other runs the line for the first team on a Saturday,so location is going to be a problem.
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| It won't work, neutral refs is fine but travel and time plus other commitments won't make it easy. Half of them are kids.
There is no answer to this problem i'm afraid and good old Kenny knows it.
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| when it comes to junior rugby i honestly think you just have to take it on the chin if the young refs get it wrong,like the players at that age they make errors but again imo they do try to be fair. they make the errors when parents on the sideline start getting on their backs.
its a job knowone wants to do and im full of admiration for them, that admiration probably stems from when i was a young player and was told its yes sir no sir to every decision and its something i preach to my players otherwise we will end up like footballers questioning every decision.
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| Quote ="Normy Knight"Snowie I hear what your saying and agree with it,but has it been thought out properly?
I think Kenny T has opened a pandora's box for himself here.
The 3 ref's from Normanton don't drive so problem No1. 2 of them play rugby themselves and the other runs the line for the first team on a Saturday,so location is going to be a problem.'"
we play Normanton next week again in the wakefield cup semi final going to be a hum dinger as the teams are so evenly matched but fairness has to be seen to be done,
we have had our fair share of results not going our way due to unfair advantage but that is how we see it but at the end of the day its the parents that are arguing and not the kids, rivalry's are good but should remember its for the kids we do this
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| Quote ="braytontiger"when it comes to junior rugby i honestly think you just have to take it on the chin if the young refs get it wrong,like the players at that age they make errors but again imo they do try to be fair. they make the errors when parents on the sideline start getting on their backs.
its a job knowone wants to do and im full of admiration for them, that admiration probably stems from when i was a young player and was told its yes sir no sir to every decision and its something i preach to my players otherwise we will end up like footballers questioning every decision.'"
yep gotta agree I'm sure we all got to hold our hands up and say at times these young refs unintended have won games for our team
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| Understand the wakey cup semi is played on 28th nov and we as a fair minded club have already asked for a neutral referee to be appointed . Looking forward to game though if this weather keeps up it will not suit either teams style of play. With reference to neutral refs for league games the league appoint every one of our refs at Normy so in their eyes they are neutral at least that way you can give feedback through official channels . We used to send in assessment forms for every game but it was stopped as winning teams gave high scores and losing ones gave low scores. Agree with previous post that its coaches job to coach respect and discipline, to accept rough with smooth ,otherwise result is football . Know its easier said than done when you feel aggrieved but its the reason our game is the greatest game.
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| this mornings u10s game finished
cas panthers 30 eastmoor dragons 10
another very good performance against a good eastmoor side,both teams played some good rugby but our defence was in top form again snuffing out their fast backs.
another result from the u10s
drighlington 18 stanningley 6
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| normy knights u13's went to walton came away with an hard fought win 18-10 great advert for rugby league. a good hard game played in the right spirit by both sides.
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| Quote ="once a knight"Understand the wakey cup semi is played on 28th nov and we as a fair minded club have already asked for a neutral referee to be appointed . Looking forward to game though if this weather keeps up it will not suit either teams style of play. With reference to neutral refs for league games the league appoint every one of our refs at Normy so in their eyes they are neutral at least that way you can give feedback through official channels . We used to send in assessment forms for every game but it was stopped as winning teams gave high scores and losing ones gave low scores. Agree with previous post that its coaches job to coach respect and discipline, to accept rough with smooth ,otherwise result is football . Know its easier said than done when you feel aggrieved but its the reason our game is the greatest game.'" yes it is on the 28th miss heard someone yesterday, I hope it is played in the same spirit as today's match what a good game it was
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| heartbreak for the Stanley Rangers under 12s as the went down in such a good game losing to Oulton Raiders 10- 8, having taken the lead in the first half Oulton managed to equalize before half time,
then they took the lead and converted it, leaving Stanley 6 points behind they managed to get over the line but it was to far to kick, with both sides showing tiredness Stanley pressed on and looked the like ones to score but failed in the end
all credit to Oulton and would like to wish them good luck in the semi final
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| the shaw cross jinx hit the under 10s again , was like watching a different team from nomall . even at 10s you must listen to the coach and if you dont you pays the price .....my lad is convinced we lost by 4 imagine my delight in trying to convince him the losing margin was more , to my reckoning it was at least 12 which I'm sure OV will either confirm or not later ....it just might take him a little while to simmer...Tuesday would be my guess after he gets to beast them
nothing away from Shaw cross it just seems that we dint put into practice what they do at training....chin up OV things can only get better
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Not as bad a game as it would appear - but this isn't doing either team any good , just hope someone sees sense and moves us up after Christmas . Even if we're losing we'd learn more on a match day than we are at the mo.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"U10's
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Not as bad a game as it would appear - but this isn't doing either team any good , just hope someone sees sense and moves us up after Christmas . Even if we're losing we'd learn more on a match day than we are at the mo.'" leagues are made up of around 8 clubs and we have 4 leagues, it maybe worth looking at increasing the two highest so they can at least play more competitively like you say does neither side much good
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| Quote ="snowie"leagues are made up of around 8 clubs and we have 4 leagues, it maybe worth looking at increasing the two highest so they can at least play more competitively like you say does neither side much good'"
fully understand where spongebob is coming from,we have two teams that have only mannaged 1 win each in dewsbury celtic and drighlington although to be fair to drig they have just won their first game beating one of the strongest sides stanningley, celtic havent won a game since the openng round back in september and they dont look to be getting any closer to winnng either.
im not sure what the answer is maybe a game between the two teams,its hard to judge what the difference in the two groups is, the only game recently between a group 1 team against a group 2 side finished 44-4 to lock lane against townville and lock lane are a team thats struggled to win games in group 1.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"fully understand where spongebob is coming from,we have two teams that have only mannaged 1 win each in dewsbury celtic and drighlington although to be fair to drig they have just won their first game beating one of the strongest sides stanningley, celtic havent won a game since the openng round back in september and they dont look to be getting any closer to winnng either.
im not sure what the answer is maybe a game between the two teams,its hard to judge what the difference in the two groups is, the only game recently between a group 1 team against a group 2 side finished 44-4 to lock lane against townville and lock lane are a team thats struggled to win games in group 1.'" we yo yo between the first and second leagues, today we had a good chance of taking another step forward in the barla cup but the lads still glory hunt when near the line, not that its wrong to at least try but when you see the over laps we had today you would of pulled your hair out to lose by two points was very hard but showed they are worthy of getting back in the first division
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| Absolutley gutted.............
after a dissapointing defeat at home to Shaw Cross last week (20-32 I think ) I was really looking forward to putting things right. Had two really good sessions with the boys and was expecting a big response from them against Dewsbury Celtic.............................until Kirklees council called the games off (on Weds apparently!!)
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