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| Quote ="MR BROWN"i'd agree with that mate . good luck to the lad. just hope when he goes to leeds he keeps the personality he has got, and not turn into an arrogant absolute K..b as most of the players that go there tend to.'"
And you know all our squad personally do you???
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| Quote ="moonriverman"Disappointed by the message this sends out.
The point of franchise is for us to build a team and not let our youngsters get poached by the top clubs.
As you say, we will probably get a senior player who's "experience will be invaluable", but will cost just as much - Peter Fox vs Peterson springs to mind, who will cost just as much.
All the clubs will now be looking at the likes of Dale Ferguson etc as they have been sent the message that we're happy to let them go.
Would have liked to see Pitts develop with us.
Another sign the club need cash?
Is Broughton not coming the other way, seems to be purely £$£.'"
Pitts’ contract was up, he rejected Wakefield's offer and accepted the offer from Leeds. Going now means the club may receive as little more money for him then they would’ve done at the end of the season. Ferguson is contracted till 2011 so same thing will not happen.
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| I thought we offered him a contract and he turned it down. Not really the clubs fault if he wanted to go to the club he supported as a kid.
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| Quote ="Mutts"JAY PITTS NOT STADIUMS'"
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| Quote ="The Clan"Indeed, Chris Feather seems to thrive at smaller clubs!
The smaller the club the better he plays
How's he doing at Castleford by the way?'"
chan i could not tell u how feather is doing at cas been a waky fan!!! i was meaning that feather was playing some great rugby for us and then went to leeds and he was crap, i can see pitts been out on loan next season coz i carnt see him getting much first team games at leeds
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| there's no doubt he's moved to his childhood team and feels that he can break in to the first team within a year or two, good luck to Jay not going to be easy but he's set his sights high, just a shame he couldn't be part of the new era at Wakefield Trinity Wildcats
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| Quote ="snowie"there's no doubt he's moved to his childhood team and feels that he can break in to the first team within a year or two, good luck to Jay not going to be easy but he's set his sights high, just a shame he couldn't be part of the new era at Wakefield Trinity Wildcats'"
Is a shame but he chose to go. So best to concentrate on those who want to play for the club. We've lost better and survived.
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| Quote ="J.T"Is a shame but he chose to go. So best to concentrate on those who want to play for the club. We've lost better and survived.'"
True. He would never had got a 13 page thread had he been plodding away for us still!
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| Quote ="J.T"Is a shame but he chose to go. So best to concentrate on those who want to play for the club. We've lost better and survived.'" there's one thing he didn't go for nowt, if any player leaves but helps the club out in the process I've not a problem with that, its when a contract is just torn up just because he doesn't want to play any more
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"True. He would never had got a 13 page thread had he been plodding away for us still!'"
It's like sales of Michael Jackson records going through the roof since his death. Suddenly everyone rates him.
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| Quote ="J.T"It's like sales of Michael Jackson records going through the roof since his death. Suddenly everyone rates him.'"
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your right though we seem to bull up those who go and slag off who stay sometimes on here!
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| Quote ="woody01"chan i could not tell u how feather is doing at cas been a waky fan!!! i was meaning that feather was playing some great rugby for us and then went to leeds and he was crap, i can see pitts been out on loan next season coz i carnt see him getting much first team games at leeds'"
If you look at blueys record since he joined you'll see that pitts will get games for 1st team injuries and form permitting!
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/09/07/14/RUGBYL_Leeds.html
Pitts, who appeared in 15 of the Wildcats' opening 16 League and Cup matches this year, was out of contract at the end of the season and rejected an offer to stay at Belle Vue.
"This is a dream come true for me, having been a season-ticket holder at the Rhinos when I was a kid," he said.'"
Jay's been a Leeds fan since he was a nipper, thats the team he wanted to play for and he's got his wish.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I'm sad to see Jay go because he is an outstanding prospect and it would have been great to see him fulfil his potential in Trinity shirt. It would've been nice to see him develop alongside Dale Ferguson and perhaps one or two of our promising Academy players.
However, good luck to him at Leeds!
He is a very nice kid who has left the club on good terms and has expressed his gratitude to all those at Wakefield who have helped him develop to this stage.
More than that Jay was out of contract at the end of the season and whilst the club still have the right to retain his registration and command a fee from anybody who signed him, I have a sneaky feeling that by leaving mid-contract we may have got a slightly better deal.
So now it's time to move on and pave the way for the next young prospect to take his place. Hopefully with the new stadium to help we will be in a position to keep the next Jay Pitts, Gareth Ellis, Colin Maskill, Gary Spencer, Andy Kelly of the future.'"
Yes he's a good lad and has parted on good terms with the players and club.
I Have more than a sneaky feeling Clan, and anyone who knocks the lad for this move needs to think twice before doing so.
Yep lets hope that more can be found around the youth game and developed into future SL players.
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| Who is his agent?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Who is his agent?'"
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| Quote ="rhinoms"And you know all our squad personally do you???
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I know several Leeds players on a personal level but theres only really 1 that thinks he's above 'JoePublic' that I can see.Don't want to mention his name as he seems to be the Messiah within the Leeds fanbase.
99.9% of rugby league players are fantastic off the field unlike the prima-donna's of pro football.
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| Quote ="Green Greedo"I know several Leeds players on a personal level but theres only really 1 that thinks he's above 'JoePublic' that I can see.Don't want to mention his name as he seems to be the Messiah within the Leeds fanbase.
99.9% of rugby league players are fantastic off the field unlike the prima-donna's of pro football.'"
Not that I think you know any of them, but Kevin Sinfield is the Messiah in the Leeds fan base, and there is no player in the game more down to earth and level headed than him. So I take it that was not what you were alluding to?
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I Have more than a sneaky feeling Clan, and anyone who knocks the lad for this move needs to think twice before doing so.'"
Not sure what the argument's about here, if indeed there is one.
Some people seem to be suggesting that the club simply shipped him off to make some cash. The quote from the "Life" suggests that we made him an offer and he turned it down. Now I don't normally believe all the scripted guff about "this is a dream move for me" we hear from players, but when a lad has supported a club all his life and gets the chance to play for that club, I'd say there's a fair chance he wanted the move in the first place, and wasn't forced out.
Unless, of course, people are complaining about the fact that he's gone before the end of the season so we could get some extra cash, in which case, I'd say it's up to the backroom staff to assess what kind of contribution he could have made to our playoff aspirations, and whether the extra cash outweighs the contribution.
What disappoints me most about this, though - and it goes back to a point that PB and others made a few years ago re. the Academy - is that we've spent the time and effort bringing the player on (again), only to lose him when he looks like he may go on to really achieve something in the game. That's the sad aspect in all of this, for me, the fact that we didn't really get the chance to see a return on the investment while he was still a Wakey player.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Not sure what the argument's about here, if indeed there is one.
Some people seem to be suggesting that the club simply shipped him off to make some cash. The quote from the "Life" suggests that we made him an offer and he turned it down. Now I don't normally believe all the scripted guff about "this is a dream move for me" we hear from players, but when a lad has supported a club all his life and gets the chance to play for that club, I'd say there's a fair chance he wanted the move in the first place, and wasn't forced out.
Unless, of course, people are complaining about the fact that he's gone before the end of the season so we could get some extra cash, in which case, I'd say it's up to the backroom staff to assess what kind of contribution he could have made to our playoff aspirations, and whether the extra cash outweighs the contribution.
What disappoints me most about this, though - and it goes back to a point that PB and others made a few years ago re. the Academy - is that we've spent the time and effort bringing the player on (again), only to lose him when he looks like he may go on to really achieve something in the game. That's the sad aspect in all of this, for me, the fact that we didn't really get the chance to see a return on the investment while he was still a Wakey player.'"
Spot on. It's the disappointment that hurts. But, I am lead to believe that Jay had shown the same symptoms as Korki and Griff did before their release. Jay has not 'shone' in the A team, which he should be, and I reckon it's fair to assume that he needed a fresh challenge and new surroundings to help him move on to the next level.
IF we assume that he had already agreed to go, then we were due 'compensation' from his new club. I could well picture Ted and Gary stood on the balcony at BV last week saying 'cards on the table....' and that if all parties accept that is happening then we may as well have the cash in the bank (to help balance the disappointing crowd on Friday).
Our sights are set on next season and how we plug the gap before some of the current academy crop reach maturity (and we will probably lose some of them along the way), but we are most definitely moving forward and there is no need to 'beat ourselves up' over Jay having gone. Good luck Jay.
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Our sights are set on next season and how we plug the gap before some of the current academy crop reach maturity (and we will probably lose some of them along the way), but we are most definitely moving forward and there is no need to 'beat ourselves up' over Jay having gone. Good luck Jay.
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sorry Phil but if our sights were set on next year then we would be moving heaven and earth to keep our own prodigies.
I fear we are moving back to think today sod tomorrow rule of thumb and all i can see is yet again a post round 20 melt down.
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| Quote ="TRB"Spot on. It's the disappointment that hurts. But, I am lead to believe that Jay had shown the same symptoms as Korki and Griff did before their release. Jay has not 'shone' in the A team, which he should be, and I reckon it's fair to assume that he needed a fresh challenge and new surroundings to help him move on to the next level.
IF we assume that he had already agreed to go, then we were due 'compensation' from his new club. I could well picture Ted and Gary stood on the balcony at BV last week saying 'cards on the table....' and that if all parties accept that is happening then we may as well have the cash in the bank (to help balance the disappointing crowd on Friday).
Our sights are set on next season and how we plug the gap before some of the current academy crop reach maturity (and we will probably lose some of them along the way), but we are most definitely moving forward and there is no need to 'beat ourselves up' over Jay having gone. Good luck Jay.
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I could post why, but it would be too little too late i'm afraid.
I am lead to believe by one member of the coaching staff at BV thats not the case and the reasons behind any dip in form, so i won't tow the party line on this one.
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| Quote ="Mutts"sorry Phil but if our sights were set on next year then we would be moving heaven and earth to keep our own prodigies.
I fear we are moving back to think today sod tomorrow rule of thumb and all i can see is yet again a post round 20 melt down.'"
If he wanted to go what could we do to stop him? Answer nothing. Its a shame he couldnt stay but hes not exactly a world beater, a tryer a young un who makes a few yards who offers little in attack YET. I would have liked him to stay but hey lets move on.
And if the rumours are true about who were signing and keeping we'll improve next year. It is evident where not just looking at today look at the 10 kids we've signed the academy doing so well, and the fact where talking to half a dozen to sign onto full time deals.
Things on the field are looking goo, just the crowds and marketing/pr to sort now.
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| Quote ="TRB"Spot on. It's the disappointment that hurts. But, I am lead to believe that Jay had shown the same symptoms as [size=150=redKorki [/sizeand Griff did before their release. :'"
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| Quote ="Mutts"sorry Phil but if our sights were set on next year then we would be moving heaven and earth to keep our own prodigies.
I fear we are moving back to think today sod tomorrow rule of thumb and all i can see is yet again a post round 20 melt down.'"
Don't see what more we can do other than offer him a contract (which we did). If Jay turns it down to move to Leeds we can't stop him. Remember this is a lad who would be out of contract at the end of the season.
Sounds to me like we are being fairly sensible and starting to recruit for next year, bringing in players who can offer us a good couple of years whilst our junior talent continues to develop to a standard that enables them to step up.
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