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| I hope you are right, but they still have some match winners in their squad
6. Jake Connor
9. Danny Houghton
14. Albert Kelly
22. Josh Bowden
33. Ratu Naulago
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Hull obviously think we are walk over haven’t selected shaul tuimavave Manu mau Jordan Johnston griffin and Faiamo not selected . Injured Sneyd Ellis Taylor and Jones so they have about 11 first team out'"
Its certainly not a case of Hull thinking Wakefield are a walk over and far from it but unfortunately Shaul, Tuimavave, Manu Ma'u & Jordan Johnston all picked up injuries in the Warrington game and Griffin and Faraimo both picked up knocks are not being risked with the short turnaround.
Will certainly be interesting with such a young Hull side that maybe hungry and one that looks lightweight but mobile. As a Hull fan its been the senior players that have been the ones not performing so hard one to call.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I hope you are right, but they still have some match winners in their squad
6. Jake Connor
9. Danny Houghton
14. Albert Kelly
22. Josh Bowden
33. Ratu Naulago'"
I don’t think it will be easy but think it has to be viewed as our best chance of a win so far this season. And whilst I agree all of the above are potential match winners you would say same about tupo , Hampshire , gigot , Walker lyne etc sadly we’ve seen what reputations are worth this season
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| Think this shows how bad our squad is Trouble is can not see it been any better next year
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| Quote ="alegend"Think this shows how bad our squad is Trouble is can not see it been any better next year'"
I think it shows how big our squad is! When you look at the players missing, yet the 17 that will turn out should at least be competitive, it's about time the players that actually take to the field actually put on some kind of a performance, not be 20 nil down after 20 minutes, then a comeback and sob story because we couldn't quite do it! Let's at least hope we can go toe to toe for the first 60 then see where that takes us........ ![PRAY icon_razz.gifRAY:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_pray.gif)
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I hope you are right, but they still have some match winners in their squad
6. Jake Connor
9. Danny Houghton
14. Albert Kelly
22. Josh Bowden
33. Ratu Naulago'"
Josh Bowden has never been called a match winner in his life! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Wildmoggy"I think it shows how big our squad is! When you look at the players missing[u, yet the 17 that will turn out should at least be competitive, it's about time the players that actually take to the field actually put on some kind of a performance,[/u not be 20 nil down after 20 minutes, then a comeback and sob story because we couldn't quite do it! Let's at least hope we can go toe to toe for the first 60 then see where that takes us........
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Maybe they're confused and not receiving the right direction from the coaching staff, see how easy it is to apportion blame.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Maybe they're confused and not receiving the right direction from the coaching staff, see how easy it is to apportion blame.'"
Well if it's another heavy defeat then I fail to see how anybody can make excuses, there's a way to lose games, it would be nice to see some entertaining rugby win lose or draw, it would make a nice change to be entertained...... ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Josh Bowden has never been called a match winner in his life!
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Him and Houghton have been poor for a couple of years.
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| There shouldn't be any excuses Wildmoggy which was my point, and my sarcasm was not intended at you btw, it would be good to see some entertaining rugby but when the players and the coaching staff aren't singing from the same song sheet then we have a problem, fans can sugar coat it all they want with the usual excuses over finances and injuries but there was no mention of these three week ago, either 30 players have got it wrong or the coaching staff, difficult for the CEO who has to keep finding the money for extra players while also asking players to take a pay cut, I'm sure that won't help matters either unfortunately.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Our first team?i know Hull are weakened but don’t forget when looking through our squad, there’s no...
Johnstone
Miller
Fifita
K.Wood
Arona
Ashurst
Batchelor
Kirmond
Atkins
Brough
I know the latter three may have played their last game but at the start of the season the majority of those would have been in any 17 so let’s not kid ourselves our first team are playing their 2nd team...
Surprised at a few of those missing after the extra week off we had but there ya go...'"
The question is are they actually injured or is some cases just being rested. If it is the latter then I honestly believe we are reducing our chances of winning albeit with the team Hull have put out we should regardless.
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| So looking at the probable line ups and the backs...we’re assuming Hull are weak there and we have the edge. Who comes out on top of matching against each other?
Gigot v Wynne
Senior v Swift
Tupou v Fonua
Lyne v Scott
Kay v Naulago
Hampshire v Connor
Jowitt v Kelly
I’d say two clear for us...one about equal and the rest to Hull, so we might not have the big advantage everyone seems to think?
It’s a huge pressure game for both coaches and will probably come down to who handles the pressure most...
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| Quote ="upthecats"So looking at the probable line ups and the backs...we’re assuming Hull are weak there and we have the edge. Who comes out on top of matching against each other?
Gigot v Wynne
Senior v Swift
Tupou v Fonua
Lyne v Scott
Kay v Naulago
Hampshire v Connor
Jowitt v Kelly
I’d say two clear for us...one about equal and the rest to Hull, so we might not have the big advantage everyone seems to think?
It’s a huge pressure game for both coaches and will probably come down to who handles the pressure most...'"
Has Chester come out and stated that's the position Gigot, Hampshire, and Jowitt will play in, or like others are you just assuming that
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Hull obviously think we are walk over haven’t selected shaul tuimavave Manu mau Jordan Johnston griffin and Faiamo not selected . Injured Sneyd Ellis Taylor and Jones so they have about 11 first team out'"
Obviously.... Nothing to do with the fact they have to play 2 games in 1 week then and are probably targeting the Cup game?
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Has Chester come out and stated that's the position Gigot, Hampshire, and Jowitt will play in, or like others are you just assuming that'"
I’m assuming that.
If you think they’ll line up differently fair enough...
Whatever we go with at 1,6,7 we will arguably have the edge at 1, although Wynne is an excellent young prospect, and Hull have the edge at 6/7...in my opinion of course..
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Josh Bowden has never been called a match winner in his life!
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Now you’ve gone and done it ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="PopTart"That's a very different squad.
Glad we can rotate. Let's see who puts their hand up.
Great to see BJB out there.'"
Given we have Senior for just one more week i’d play him and Kay on the wings. Personally i’d leave BJB to get more training under his belt before we play again in a couple of weeks time after the cup round.
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| Quote ="upthecats"I’m assuming that.
If you think they’ll line up differently fair enough...
Whatever we go with at 1,6,7 we will arguably have the edge at 1, although Wynne is an excellent young prospect, and Hull have the edge at 6/7...in my opinion of course..'"
I'm neither for or against Chester I leave that to others to decide and just comment on what's said in any particular post, as for my particular thoughts on his line up, I've long since given up trying to guess his line up, personally fwiw I'd put Gigot at Hampshires side where he's more involved and put Max at full back.
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| Guess what we don’t know is how fit everyone is - but apart from Johnstone all our likely contenders are in the squad so will be interesting to see what he sees as his best line up - he has said all the ooc players can play themselves into a contract so let’s hope bishop is fit and does exactly that.
Call at half back and full back is difficult but personally would go with walker at full back , tupo and Bjb on the wings, gigot and lynne in centres and jowit and Hampshire in halves.
Equally could see hampsire at full back and gigot at stand off or .....
To say we have such a small squad the permutations are endless -
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| Looking forward to a Thai and watching us v Hull. Doesnt matter how bad previous performances have been there's something about the next match that excites, that HOPE! It's hard to give up.
As Red said in Shawshank though.. "Hope is a dangerous thing, hope can drive a man insane" ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Mick Amos 9 WTW"Looking forward to a Thai and watching us v Hull. Doesnt matter how bad previous performances have been there's something about the next match that excites, that HOPE! It's hard to give up.
As Red said in Shawshank though.. "Hope is a dangerous thing, hope can drive a man insane"
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Wonder who’s paying for that then ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Guess what we don’t know is how fit everyone is - but apart from Johnstone all our likely contenders are in the squad so will be interesting to see what he sees as his best line up - he has said all the ooc players can play themselves into a contract so let’s hope bishop is fit and does exactly that.
Call at half back and full back is difficult but personally would go with walker at full back , tupo and Bjb on the wings, gigot and lynne in centres and jowit and Hampshire in halves.
Equally could see hampsire at full back and gigot at stand off or .....
To say we have such a small squad [uthe permutations are endless[/u -'"
Whilst that may be beneficiary for some, I think that has been Chester’s Achilles heel - too many players can play in different positions.
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| Quote ="Mick Amos 9 WTW"Looking forward to a Thai and watching us v Hull. Doesnt matter how bad previous performances have been there's something about the next match that excites, that HOPE! It's hard to give up.
As Red said in Shawshank though.. "Hope is a dangerous thing, hope can drive a man insane"
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Insanity is a pre-requisite for being a Wakefield fan.
Not everyone is when they start following Trin but, it doesn't take long.
The craic and beer are the only certainties that any of us have ![DRUNK icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_drunk.gif)
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Given we have Senior for just one more week i’d play him and Kay on the wings. Personally i’d leave BJB to get more training under his belt before we play again in a couple of weeks time after the cup round.'"
I think I agree.
I hadn't realised Senior was in the squad but he should keep his place.
And Kay has played pretty well too so I'd keep them both there.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Wonder who’s paying for that then
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Alison as always.. Always seem to come out of her purse ![WHISTLE eusa_whistle.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_whistle.gif)
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