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| Quote ="trinfan71"People need to stop trying with this one. Never argue with an idiot because they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'"
Or like a hydra you cut off one head three more takes its place
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Nope, you're wrong. I've watched it to look specifically for that. He was fully in control of all of his movement when he was clattered. No leg-buckling. His legs buckled when he was knocked out with a cheap, lazy shot and his torso went back but his lower limbs stayed planted. That cherry tint to your lenses must have affected your vision.
Had a shot like that from any Wakefield player put Super Sam out of action for three to six months, they wouldn't have played for quite a while, and you know it. You shouldn't have former teammates on a panel. I know Sculthorpe played at Wakefield, but he doesn't like us and didn't enjoy it. It was a biased panel and a poor outcome. Chester is right: it's a joke.'"
I disagree, it is as clear as day to me that Annakin attempted a side step, did his knee and fell into contact.
Had Tomkins been injured in a similarly unlucky challenge, I'd accept it as I like to take an unbiased dispassionate viewpoint on matters like this.
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| Quote ="21-12"Agreed. Seen it several times now and his leg buckled as he steps, he is actually falling into contact.
As iv said before, if this wasn't Wigan and Wigans captain, there would be minimum fuss about the whole thing.'"
Finally someone else that can see the woods for the trees. It's clear as day buckling before contact.
Like you said, if it wasn't Wigan, Wigan and England's captain, there'd be very little said.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"You're wrong luv and I'm sure you know that and this is just trolling, but we're all entitled to an opinion no matter how wrong yours is, you're entitled to it, so there you go, you can toddle off our forum now and go back to the "Big Boys" forum
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I'm here to debate, financial, not be patronised by "luv" remarks. Contribute to the discussion or leave.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"I disagree, it is as clear as day to me that Annakin attempted a side step, did his knee and fell into contact.
Had Tomkins been injured in a similarly unlucky challenge, I'd accept it as I like to take an unbiased dispassionate viewpoint on matters like this.'"
Cough cough i would love to read your view on the Bateman v Mossop dissagreement oh it never happend!
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Cough cough i would love to read your view on the Bateman v Mossop dissagreement
oh it never happend!'"
Let's keep it on topic, Cheshire. We're here to discuss Annakin doing his knee.
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| Annakin is coming back on the angle and not sidestepping, when he gets 'cleaned out' his legs 'go'.
I think most players legs would 'go' after that.
What about the statement from Chris Chester about Andy Yates getting banned?
No consistency, one rule for one, one rule for another.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Annakin is coming back on the angle and not sidestepping, when he gets 'cleaned out' his legs 'go'.
I think most players legs would 'go' after that.
What about the statement from Chris Chester about Andy Yates getting banned?
No consistency, one rule for one, one rule for another.'"
Could you link that?
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Could you link that?'"
I believe it was the interview he gave to the YP.
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| Oh sorry you dont like being on the back foot! Has you have no answers
Working in wigan and knowing loads of wiganers, you are just low life scum who has now mates and just comes on forums to troll because you have no life.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Annakin is coming back on the angle and not sidestepping, when he gets 'cleaned out' his legs 'go'.
I think most players legs would 'go' after that.
What about the statement from Chris Chester about Andy Yates getting banned?
No consistency, one rule for one, one rule for another.'"
This is exactly right, sadly the brain dead ones wearing cherry & white glasses can't see it so you are wasting your time. It must be something in the water over there, led by their neanderthal of a coach and thug of a captain. The rest of the game can see it and agree that the decision was a joke and the injury directly linked to the act of malice but they still insist they are in the right. Their arrogance knows no bounds and is the reason nobody outside of Wigan can stand them. If that what gets them off so be it, we have the moral high ground and they are being shown up for exactly what they are.
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| I really do worry about the water around Wigan. If anyone can show me one image of Annakin's knee buckling before he reaches O'Loughlin's arm, I'll concede defeat, but they are seeing things that are not there. I can only assume they are being deliberately obtuse because it avoids the issue of the Disciplinary panel having old teammates judging each other.
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| Don't know if this helps at all, but it shows Annakin running perfectly healthily, and clearly going in a different direction to the Wigan innocent, who lashes out with his stiff arm, catches him around his head, and as he goes to the ground, his left knee buckles.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Don't know if this helps at all, but it shows Annakin running perfectly healthily, and clearly going in a different direction to the Wigan innocent, who lashes out with his stiff arm, catches him around his head, and as he goes to the ground, his left knee buckles.
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That should hopefully shut them up.
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| In fact, from the positioning of O'Loughlin's feet, particularly his raised right foot (admittedly fuzzy), it could be said quite easily that rather than Annakin falling into him, O'Loughlin leapt at Annakin, because he'd been wrong footed. It's as bad a high tackle as you are going to see. But hey, when your mates on the panel, it's not a problem.
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| That conclusive evidence to prove the troll wrong might just get rid of the stench that's been stinking this forum out for the last few days...thankfully! What a good day today has been..
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| If anyone's been involved in boxing, kickboxing, MMA etc, it's an injury you sometimes see, when someone gets caught on the chin and gets knocked clean out. Then collapses straight down, (rather than falling backwards) especially when it's an awkward position they fold into to. The weight of a unconscious person dropping straight down and twisting slightly onto their knees can tear all kinds of things and it's what seems to have happened to Chris.
Hopefully the lad has a full recovery and gets back to his best.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"I believe it was the interview he gave to the YP.'"
Yep here.
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/wakefield-trinity/exclusive-angry-wakefield-trinity-coach-chris-chester-brands-rfl-disciplinary-system-a-joke-1-8012895[/url
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Don't know if this helps at all, but it shows Annakin running perfectly healthily, and clearly going in a different direction to the Wigan innocent, who lashes out with his stiff arm, catches him around his head, and as he goes to the ground, his left knee buckles.
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3 stills cannot accurately display this incident, but the buckle clearly happened between pic 1 and pic 2 as he has lost some of the height I mentioned before.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Yep here.
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/wakefield-trinity/exclusive-angry-wakefield-trinity-coach-chris-chester-brands-rfl-disciplinary-system-a-joke-1-8012895[/url'"
I think that clearly displays favouritism towards Wigan. Although I don't believe Chester when he states that medical evidence is requested every time.
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Whether he buckled his knee or not it is still high.
Even if everything you say is fact, of which I don't agree, he'd still have hit him high.
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| I thought that Nicky Kiss clown was the biggest gump on these forums but this idiot suzy takes some beating. Stop rising guys let her go back to eating her hollands under her bridge.
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| If this is all for the benefit of the Wigan troll, it's a waste of time; he's revelling in the attention and probably reporting it all back on the Wigan forum.
I haven't seen any neutral observer suggest that this was anything other than a regulation clothesline tackle - which shouldn't be a surprise, as SoL has been getting away with that for years; the fact that he's of previous good character appears to be a circular defence - if that's taken in to account at every appearance (of which there have been over 30) he'd never be charged with anything.
I'm less interested in retrospectively changing the punishment for this specific incident (although if they appeal as per Wane's comments, I'd enjoy seeing it increased)and more interested in the disciplinary process being fixed - it's clearly not fit for purpose and this season alone has seen some bizarrely inconsistent sanctions handed down; when Chairmen, coaches, players, supporters and pundits are all moaning about an aspect of the game, that must send a fairly strong message about its usefulness. It's time the RFL made a serious effort to restore some credibility.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"3 stills cannot accurately display this incident, but the buckle clearly happened between pic 1 and pic 2 as he has lost some of the height I mentioned before.'"
In the face of evidence, you present an opinion backed up with no evidence. Oh dear. Oh very dear. True colours and all that. If this was in court, this would be the point where the jury ss.
If you want me to mitigate slightly for Lockers, if you'd like, Annakin is one of the shortest people in the Wakey side. He has no height to lose. He did, however, lose consciousness, the rest of the season, and the chance of a Wembley trip with his hometown club.
In contrast, you have lost merely your credibility. Like Annakin, it was short in the first place.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"In the face of evidence, you present an opinion backed up with no evidence. Oh dear. Oh very dear. True colours and all that. If this was in court, this would be the point where the jury ss.
If you want me to mitigate slightly for Lockers, if you'd like, Annakin is one of the shortest people in the Wakey side. He has no height to lose. He did, however, lose consciousness, the rest of the season, and the chance of a Wembley trip with his hometown club.
In contrast, you have lost merely your credibility. Like Annakin, it was short in the first place.'"
Spot on that Slugger
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