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| hope we appeal, I thought it was a case of Bradford starting offensive chanting against Wakefield then crying when they got a response from a few of our idiots
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| Quote ="bren2k"Completely against anyone's sense of natural justice, but it has to be like this I guess; quite how a club is meant to prevent this kind of thing I'm not sure, but it is important to respond appropriately when it does.'"
I'm not sure it's for non prevention but rather for not acting quickly enough to shut it down. The stewards in that area did not do their job and therefore the chanting went on too long and the culprits weren't identified so weren't ejected.
The idiots have cost the club £11,000 with £10,000 more if it happens again, what morons.
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| Correct me if im wrong but wasnt the stewards employed to stopnthis type of behaviour so surely it shiuld be them that pay the fine
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| If it was to happen at a challenge cup final where all fans stand together would the RFL be liable.
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| The simple fact is it shouldn't have happened. Thank's Morons!
Vey harsh for the club to suffer but them's the rules.
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| [urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/football/2003/jun/17/newsstory.sport6[/url
It's not just offensive, it's illegal (although the word "insulting" has been removed from Section 5 of the Public Order Act, it is still "abusive"icon_wink.gif.
The RFL are right to act, because otherwise there become no limits. Although rugby league has always struggled to recruit from many of the ethic minority communities, a source of pride has always been that there was little, if any, racism shown towards black players many decades before football got a grip of the situation. To put that in context, John Barnes was getting bananas thrown at him at a time when Great Britain had a black captain in Ellery Hanley.
The morons need to take a long, hard look at themselves.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"[urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/football/2003/jun/17/newsstory.sport6[/url
It's not just offensive, it's illegal (although the word "insulting" has been removed from Section 5 of the Public Order Act, it is still "[uabusive[/u"icon_wink.gif.
The RFL are right to act, because otherwise there become no limits. Although rugby league has always struggled to recruit from many of the ethic minority communities, a source of pride has always been that there was little, if any, racism shown towards black players many decades before football got a grip of the situation. To put that in context, John Barnes was getting bananas thrown at him at a time when Great Britain had a black captain in Ellery Hanley.
The morons need to take a long, hard look at themselves.'"
You're absolutely right Slugger the morons need a head shake.
But.......How many times do we here the South stand at Headingley singing about the referee being a w*nker? Isn't that classed as being abusive? I'm pretty sure if you constantly abused a police officer with the w*nker jibe you'd be arrested. It always comes over particularly clear on TV so should Leeds expect a fine? It's been going on for ages at Leeds, they obviously haven't taken precautions to stop it.
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| Quote ="JINJER"You're absolutely right Slugger the morons need a head shake.
But.......How many times do we here the South stand at Headingley singing about the referee being a w*nker? Isn't that classed as being abusive? I'm pretty sure if you constantly abused a police officer with the w*nker jibe you'd be arrested. It always comes over particularly clear on TV so should Leeds expect a fine? It's been going on for ages at Leeds, they obviously haven't taken precautions to stop it.'"
Depends which ref.
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| Probably describes them all but still abusive, it makes even me cringe when I hear it broadcast.
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| Quote ="JINJER"You're absolutely right Slugger the morons need a head shake.
But.......How many times do we here the South stand at Headingley singing about the referee being a w*nker? Isn't that classed as being abusive? I'm pretty sure if you constantly abused a police officer with the w*nker jibe you'd be arrested. It always comes over particularly clear on TV so should Leeds expect a fine? It's been going on for ages at Leeds, they obviously haven't taken precautions to stop it.'"
I have made this comment for years. No effort has been made by Leeds to stop this abusive chanting.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Probably describes them all but still abusive, it makes even me cringe when I hear it broadcast.
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Thought them Widnes fans near you were a bit offensive and glad we moved at half time, It's a good job really that the usual Wakey crowd weren't in attendance there or there might have been a coming together
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| Its a real shame for the vast majority of the Wakefield fans who were not responsible for this type of chanting.
Visited Belle Vue for years and despite what many will say, happens to be one of my favourite RL grounds. You feel like you're on top of the pitch and the atmosphere is usually pretty good.
However, the game in question was an ugly one. Never seen that kind of reaction. It was more that a a couple of dozen but not reflective on the whole crowd.
Hopefully we get to visit again very soon and all being well it will be back to the normal great atmosphere we all enjoy!!!
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| Quote ="chissitt"Thought them Widnes fans near you were a bit offensive and glad we moved at half time, It's a good job really that the usual Wakey crowd weren't in attendance there or there might have been a coming together'"
Yeah they were a bit naughty, they were winning so we're in good spirits.
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| It's the club's responsibility to police the crowd and prevent this. Failure to do so means punishments being handed out. 20k with half suspended seems a fair punishment
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"It's the club's responsibility to police the crowd and prevent this. Failure to do so means punishments being handed out. 20k with half suspended seems a fair punishment'"
You really believe that - suppose it's easy to be smug when it's not you.
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| Come on then roofaldo2 how do you go about that then . Just how do you put a stop to verbal chants.
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| It's not just about the fine. It's on most of the online news sites and has been tweeted all day. I can just imagine the parents of children in Wakefield planning their next wholesome day out to the North Stand. Or not, perhaps.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"It's not just about the fine. It's on most of the online news sites and has been tweeted all day. I can just imagine the parents of children in Wakefield planning their next wholesome day out to the North Stand. Or not, perhaps.'"
Yeah. Cos it happens at every Wakefield match doesn't it.
Some yobs got a chant going and the stewards didn't sort it. Next game v Bradford there was no problem. I don't remember any burning crosses in the North Stand last Sunday.
Maybe the Northstanders should get a collection going to pay for the clubs fine?
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| Quote ="vastman"You really believe that - suppose it's easy to be smug when it's not you.'"
Compared to Castlefords £40k fine for similar chanting, I think you got off very lightly indeed.
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| Quote ="vastman"You really believe that - suppose it's easy to be smug when it's not you.'"
Small memories! Cas had double the fine, making an example of of us. Same is happening to you.
We banned the select few and hasn't been an issue since.
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| Quote ="TigersAllTheWay"Compared to Castlefords £40k fine for similar chanting, I think you got off very lightly indeed.'"
Yes but your fans meant it
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Yeah. Cos it happens at every Wakefield match doesn't it.
Some yobs got a chant going and the stewards didn't sort it. Next game v Bradford there was no problem. I don't remember any burning crosses in the North Stand last Sunday.
Maybe the Northstanders should get a collection going to pay for the clubs fine?'"
That's the whole point though. The potential fans the club is trying to entice might be put off by the report. There'll be no reports highlighting lack of it. Only the negative is aired.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"That's the whole point though. The potential fans the club is trying to entice might be put off by the report. There'll be no reports highlighting lack of it. Only the negative is aired.'"
Problem is that people daren't even talk about it. How many people out there think the Wakefield masses were picking on some black player or something similar that is the norm amongst eastern block country's football fans. In actual fact the whole issue boils down to the use of one word (FFS! even I daren't type it now!!!)
Are these facts out there amongst these trendy media vehicles or are these potential fans scared to turn up at Belle Vue in case it's mandatory to wear a pointy flour sack on your head.
Pay the fine, put procedures in place to prevent a recurrence, move on.
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| If Carter had of segregated the North Stand making it home only, like everyone had been asking for then this wouldn't have happened. There was tension in a number of games when the away fans were allowed in that stand. I dont condone the chanting but it was tit for tar with a similar "inbred" style chant.
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| Catalans is our next home match let's hope there's no chanting of "you're just a team full of Aussies" .
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