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| Quote ="Chris B"No.. they are 30 miles down the road.
Far enough away to be considered an expansion team.
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and don't foget the "Welsh" bit. Those 6miles don't lie...just ask the RFL. Sound in the knowledge that they have a club nestled in the Welsh heartland. A safe investment.
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| Sad as this is, I find myself being MORE concerned about out SL future as a result of this rather than feeling with have a little bit more certainty over our future.
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| It would seem Mr Noble already knew what was to Happen ? as for there players I wonder how that leaves them if they default on wages its open season ,its sad for any team as we already know from our inspired past but hey ho if it means we stay up and carry on.
this week may be the week I renew my season tickets
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| Quote ="bigbadcat"It would seem Mr Noble already knew what was to Happen ? as for there players I wonder how that leaves them if they default on wages its open season ,its sad for any team as we already know from our inspired past but hey ho if it means we stay up and carry on.
this week may be the week I renew my season tickets
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The Crusaders will be in SL next season and the for the next license period.
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Quote ="Brunoshayman"they only thing the fans can do is boycott the crusaders games especially their televised games'"
May I take you back to my post 14th may 2009.
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Quote ="Brunoshayman"they only thing the fans can do is boycott the crusaders games especially their televised games'"
May I take you back to my post 14th may 2009.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The Crusaders will be in SL next season and the for the next license period.'"
Absolutely; the tunnel vision and intransigence of the RFL when it comes to 'expansion' clubs will guarantee that no matter what, Crusaders will be around for a good few years to come.
Equally, one way or another, they'll get rid of a West Yorkshire club; that will be us or Cas.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Absolutely; the tunnel vision and intransigence of the RFL when it comes to 'expansion' clubs will guarantee that no matter what, Crusaders will be around for a good few years to come.
Equally, one way or another, [uthey'll get rid of a West Yorkshire club; that will be us or Cas[/u.'"
No they'll remove the weakest franchise bid based on the critera they have set down, all above board and fair play all round.
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it would be far better if teams didn't turn up instead,
there will be club supporters that won't give a toss as long as their club are in SL to mention a few Leeds, Wires, Wigan, Shudds, Hull FC all safe due to their stadiums
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it would be far better if teams didn't turn up instead,
there will be club supporters that won't give a toss as long as their club are in SL to mention a few Leeds, Wires, Wigan, Shudds, Hull FC all safe due to their stadiums
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| I’m not sure how such clubs as Leeds, Hull, Hull K.R. will react to this, if I was their CEO, I know which clubs supporters & hard cash, I’d rather have coming to Headingley etc.
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| i think we all know that the rfl will shaft either cas or youselves at the next round of franchises,for me it would be criminal if an heartlands club was to be sacrifised for a club that has twice gone under in the space of 14 months had 6 players deported and cast aside all its local players in favour of overseas cast offs.
what can we do ? well we could sit back and take the 50/50 chance that you hope its not your club that will go or show the rfl that you care and let them know what we really think of their fantasy league they are trying to create.what better opportunity than millenium magic to stand side by side and peacefully show our disgust at the way the rfl think that they can scrape us off their shoe like dog muck.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"i think we all know that the rfl will shaft either cas or youselves at the next round of franchises,for me it would be criminal if an heartlands club was to be sacrifised for a club that has twice gone under in the space of 14 months had 6 players deported and cast aside all its local players in favour of overseas cast offs.
what can we do ? well we could sit back and take the 50/50 chance that you hope its not your club that will go or show the rfl that you care and let them know what we really think of their fantasy league they are trying to create.what better opportunity than millenium magic to stand side by side and peacefully show our disgust at the way the rfl think that they can scrape us off their shoe like dog muck.'"
but then the cameras would have to pan around and pick this out and I'm sure the sky sports team would do their utmost to avoid this as everything has to correct
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| Do you think for one second that Sir Rodders would have parted with his hard earned without certain assurances from the highest echelons within the game?
No me neither......
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| Quote ="The Trip"Do you think for one second that Sir Rodders would have parted with his hard earned without certain assurances from the highest echelons within the game?
No me neither......'"
I was thinking along the same lines, but I didn't want to stir up the hornets nest again...
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| Quote ="braytontiger"i think we all know that the rfl will shaft either cas or youselves at the next round of franchises,for me it would be criminal if an heartlands club was to be sacrifised for a club that has twice gone under in the space of 14 months had 6 players deported and cast aside all its local players in favour of overseas cast offs.
what can we do ? well we could sit back and take the 50/50 chance that you hope its not your club that will go or show the rfl that you care and let them know what we really think of their fantasy league they are trying to create.what better opportunity than millenium magic to stand side by side and peacefully show our disgust at the way the rfl think that they can scrape us off their shoe like dog muck.'"
I would stand side by side with cas supporters cos all this =#FF0000STINKS big time. Get rid of this franchise crap and bring back P & R on a level playing field then we all know where we stand
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| Quote ="Disney cat"I would stand side by side with cas supporters cos all this =#FF0000STINKS big time. Get rid of this franchise crap and bring back P & R on a level playing field then we all know where we stand
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We'd be on the same uneven playing field though, because do you think for a moment that the RFL would allow Crusaders to start a season with a six-point deduction if there was relegation?
I think there are more legal shenanigans to come though, because is it so easy to close one company down, start another one, but operate from the same place, doing the same thing, with employees acting under the same contracts of employment? I'm not sure this story is done yet.
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| 1) sir rodders isn't an idiot
2) re millenium weekend, perhaps supporters leaving the stadium ( thus empty) might prove a point, basicaly neutral fans have a free ticket for the day so it wouldn't cost them.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"We'd be on the same uneven playing field though, because do you think for a moment that the RFL would allow Crusaders to start a season with a six-point deduction if there was relegation?
I think there are more legal shenanigans to come though, because is it so easy to close one company down, start another one, but operate from the same place, doing the same thing, with employees acting under the same contracts of employment? I'm not sure this story is done yet.'"
Good post, i think that the Crusaders are done for, but me been honest i hope we come through and they dont
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"No they'll remove the weakest franchise bid based on the critera they have set down, all above board and fair play all round.
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I dont usually smoke mate , but if that the effect it has on you, pass it over here
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| Quote ="tropical1"www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3225619/Crusaders-can-try-again.html
didn't see this rule change coming to light when you guys were having problems with the tax man, am I cynical in thinking this is all for the benefit of the crusaders????'"
Perhaps, but as it says a number of clubs may find themselves in a spot of bother with regards to back dated image right payments. At least it's filtering out now rather than rival supporters thinking its just Trinity fans making excuses for their tax bill.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Perhaps, but as it says a number of clubs may find themselves in a spot of bother with regards to back dated image right payments. At least it's filtering out now rather than rival supporters thinking its just Trinity fans making excuses for their tax bill.'"
Seems ironic after the all the flack our club has to take from other supporters over the tax bill that all along we were really fighting every other clubs corner. It's seems some in power are expecting some more clubs in the brown stuff over this image rights thing. If other clubs do have to go into administration and take the easy way out, we should be credited for doing it right.
What does seem wrong is that if Crusaders know they are going into administration how can they justify continuing to spend? Surly there most some legal issues with this?
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| ask yourselves this question - if crusaders hadn't gone belly up do you think the rfl would have sat back and let the image rights issue run it's course????? we will never know. What is to stop other clubs going into administration to avoid there tax obligations thus leaving their creditors high and dry.
I just think the powers that be are using this as a way of ensuring crusaders can have a license next time round, and don't get me wrong i am not having a go at the crusaders I am having a go at the RFL who move the goal posts when it suits - and who gave a license to a club who were still developing and pushed them into superleague to make sky sports and the then owner happy. Their actions have brought the team to its knees and brought the reputation of rugby league into the lime light.
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| Quote ="tropical1"ask yourselves this question - if crusaders hadn't gone belly up do you think the rfl would have sat back and let the image rights issue run it's course????? we will never know. What is to stop other clubs going into administration to avoid there tax obligations thus leaving their creditors high and dry.
I just think the powers that be are using this as a way of ensuring crusaders can have a license next time round, and don't get me wrong i am not having a go at the crusaders I am having a go at the RFL who move the goal posts when it suits - and who gave a license to a club who were still developing and pushed them into superleague to make sky sports and the then owner happy. Their actions have brought the team to its knees and brought the reputation of rugby league into the lime light.
=#FF0000I left to wonder if you guys would have been given the same assistance if you hadn't resolved your issue.'"
we wouldn't and we aren't out of it yet, long way to go
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| Quote ="snowie"we wouldn't and we aren't out of it yet, long way to go
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Is there something else we should know? Has the tax bill actually been paid or are there more bills to come?
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| God that TB on the VT comes out with some classics. He is suggesting that the vote about removing the administration condition was about the time we were facing a winding up order and so might have been more for our benefit than Crusaders.
Like I said on the VT absolutely no way would they have allowed that clause to be removed for our sake and if they did why would Sir RW pay the tax bill, we could have just gone into admin like Crusaders.
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