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| Quote ="sixtogo"There is a desire to continue spreading the game, expect a team to be set up in Ireland soon, possibly Edinburgh too.
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Yes they probably will they seem happy to throw money away on lost causes
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| Quote ="Schunter"The thing that worries me is when I try to think about it as unbiased as possible, irrespective of how good our application is or isn't I just can't see Cas getting the chop. As the others are all but protected, rightly or wrongly, I can only see it being us and the RFL know out of all the clubs most fans of other clubs see it that way too, so the decision is easier politically for them to make. I just hope there is enough unknown unknowns, to paraphrase an utter turd, to provide me with a shock'"
About those known unknowns do not forget we fans don't have the full financial details of every club, so there may be a twist in the tale somewhere
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"About those known unknowns do not forget we fans don't have the full financial details of every club, so there may be a twist in the tale somewhere'"
I believe there are several twists to come in the next week and beyond.
I also haven't discounted the 1 year licence for 2 clubs scenario, with both being reassessed on stadium progress when that year is up; with Cas & Wakey both finally showing substantive progress on new stadia after years of obfuscation, broken promises and downright lies, it doesn't feel beyond the realms of possibility.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I believe there are several twists to come in the next week and beyond.
I also haven't discounted the 1 year licence for 2 clubs scenario, with both being reassessed on stadium progress when that year is up; with Cas & Wakey both finally showing substantive progress on new stadia after years of obfuscation, broken promises and downright lies, it doesn't feel beyond the realms of possibility.'"
So how does this work with the statement that it is definately going to be 14 clubs?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I believe there are several twists to come in the next week and beyond.
I also haven't discounted the 1 year licence for 2 clubs scenario, with both being reassessed on stadium progress when that year is up; with Cas & Wakey both finally showing substantive progress on new stadia after years of obfuscation, broken promises and downright lies, it doesn't feel beyond the realms of possibility.'"
I don't think so for one reason. It doesn't add up. There will be 14 teams in sl. There are 13 teams left and 15 going for it. Assuming Fax are unsuccessful there is still going to be one relegation, so how would giving you a one year license work? Who is going to go down instead?
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| Quote ="Theboyem"So how does this work with the statement that it is definately going to be 14 clubs?'"
The situation that was described to me is that one stays up and one goes down, but both are reassessed in 12 months rather than 3 years; the club able to demonstrate that it's delivering the stadium it promised in its 2011 application gets a SL licence until the end of the licence period, bringing both clubs back into line with the normal licencing timetable.
It seems to me to be a solution that achieves the RFL's objective whilst demonstrating fairness to both clubs and let's face it, any organisation that can deliver a £15 million stadium whilst we're in the depths of a global financial crisis deserves kudos; it'll be no mean feat on the part of whomever pulls it off.
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| Quote ="bren2k"The situation that was described to me is that one stays up and one goes down, but both are reassessed in 12 months rather than 3 years; the club able to demonstrate that it's delivering the stadium it promised in its 2011 application gets a SL licence until the end of the licence period, bringing both clubs back into line with the normal licencing timetable.
It seems to me to be a solution that achieves the RFL's objective whilst demonstrating fairness to both clubs and let's face it, any organisation that can deliver a £15 million stadium whilst we're in the depths of a global financial crisis deserves kudos; it'll be no mean feat on the part of whomever pulls it off.'"
I hope you're right but I can't see it myself. The RFL set a precident with Widnes last time and i'd be amazed if they deviated from that.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"I hope you're right but I can't see it myself. The RFL set a precident with Widnes last time and i'd be amazed if they deviated from that.'"
I hope so too.
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| james voice on the interveiw on ridings didnt convince me we are in superleague next season perhaps the club have had the word already
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| Quote ="TheLinkMan"james voice on the interveiw on ridings didnt convince me we are in superleague next season perhaps the club have had the word already'"
He doesnt need a word, its plainly obvious we are the ones to go even though we arent the worst club or havent put in the worst franchise application this is RUGBY LEAGUE and we are dealing with the RFL....
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| Quote ="bren2k"The situation that was described to me is that one stays up and one goes down, but both are reassessed in 12 months rather than 3 years; the club able to demonstrate that it's delivering the stadium it promised in its 2011 application gets a SL licence until the end of the licence period, bringing both clubs back into line with the normal licencing timetable.
It seems to me to be a solution that achieves the RFL's objective whilst demonstrating fairness to both clubs and let's face it, any organisation that can deliver a £15 million stadium whilst we're in the depths of a global financial crisis deserves kudos; it'll be no mean feat on the part of whomever pulls it off.'" so lets stay Cas stay up and Wakey go down,
we have to rely on the council to pass the stadium for Wakefield within a year errrm run by a Cas supporter
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| Quote ="bren2k"I believe there are several twists to come in the next week and beyond.
I also haven't discounted the 1 year licence for 2 clubs scenario, with both being reassessed on stadium progress when that year is up; with Cas & Wakey both finally showing substantive progress on new stadia after years of obfuscation, broken promises and downright lies, it doesn't feel beyond the realms of possibility.'"
Ive had the exact same thing again said to me today that's 2 different people whos views I respect told me this is going to happen + a few people on here heard it too. It maybe true maybe false we will find out soon enough. He also said D Powell next seasons coach with new backroom staff and J Kear has already said his goodbyes to the players
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| Send Cas down then while we all await who is going to build first !!!
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Nigel Wood, the RFL’s chief executive, said: “The independent RFL board will ultimately decide which of the 15 clubs will be awarded the 13 remaining licences, and their decisions will be based on the detailed and comprehensive assessment of each club’s application, a process which is very close to completion.”
How many clubs actually put in an application?
There seems to be only us and Castleford mentioned in this respect - did all SL clubs plus Halifax (and Widnes) put in an application?
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Nigel Wood, the RFL’s chief executive, said: “The independent RFL board will ultimately decide which of the 15 clubs will be awarded the 13 remaining licences, and their decisions will be based on the detailed and comprehensive assessment of each club’s application, a process which is very close to completion.”
How many clubs actually put in an application?
There seems to be only us and Castleford mentioned in this respect - did all SL clubs plus Halifax (and Widnes) put in an application?
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| Quote ="PHe"How many clubs actually put in an application?
There seems to be only us and Castleford mentioned in this respect - did all SL clubs plus Halifax (and Widnes) put in an application?'"
The 14 current clubs plus Halifax. Barrow applied but failed to meet the criteria and so dropped out.
The whole thing is a charade to promote a sense of fair evaluation, when everyone in the game, including us, have guessed at it being us for more than a year (except for that very short period when Newmarket was looking imminent). To relegate anyone but us would astound everyone, and so why would the RFL make it hard for themselves.
And prepare for some chicanery from Crusaders immediately afterwards, given that at least one player hasn't been paid for three months, by all accounts.
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| If we are kicked out and it comes to light that in fact we didnt have the weekest application, would the club have any grounds to take legal action? Or would it just not be financially viable anyway?
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| Quote ="TheLinkMan"If we are kicked out and it comes to light that in fact we didnt have the weekest application, would the club have any grounds to take legal action? Or would it just not be financially viable anyway?'"
The very first page of the application waives a clubs right to take legal action on any decision the RFL makes, this has to be signed for the application to be valid, just shows how bent the RFL are.
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| Quote ="TheLinkMan"If we are kicked out and it comes to light that in fact we didnt have the weekest application, would the club have any grounds to take legal action? Or would it just not be financially viable anyway?'"
none whatsoever, i keep banging on about this but no one seems to get it, its a franchise to play in their league, like kfc or neros, you ask to be part of their product and at any time your franchise can be revoked,
we have asked nicely to be part of the SL brand, if we are turned down we just lose the rights to use that brand, in all honesty they dont even need to be open about the criteria, which of course by keeping scoring secret they are not.
this is NOT sport, its franchising, wake up and smell whats left of the roses.
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| Quote ="chapster"this is NOT sport, its franchising, wake up and smell whats left of the roses.'"
The roses are covered in manure but nothing's blossoming.
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| Quote ="chapster"
this is NOT sport, its franchising, wake up and smell whats left of the roses.'"
And once we are shown the door that could be it for good
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The roses are covered in manure but nothing's blossoming.'"
dont start me on rose quotes!
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when the petals fall off the rose the bees dont come around as often.
its is used to descibe in rose terms our attendances this year, and if it turns up in a book, by anyone, my lawyers are watching.
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| Quote ="snowie"so lets stay Cas stay up and Wakey go down,
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No we don't - they've already passed it; we have to rely on Mr Pickles.
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| the signing of forms was done by the other mob before ag took over unless he had to agree to this in the fit and proper persons check
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| Quote ="bren2k"No we don't - they've already passed it; we have to rely on Eric 'If only I was as slim as Peter Griffin' Pickles.'"
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| Quote ="chapster"none whatsoever, i keep banging on about this but no one seems to get it, its a franchise to play in their league, like kfc or neros, you ask to be part of their product and at any time your franchise can be revoked,
we have asked nicely to be part of the SL brand, if we are turned down we just lose the rights to use that brand, in all honesty they dont even need to be open about the criteria, which of course by keeping scoring secret they are not.
this is NOT sport, its franchising, wake up and smell whats left of the roses.'"
Maybe not quite so clear. I believe that the RFL recognise the jurisdiction of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) so therefore clubs can refer disputes here if they feel they have been unfairly treated.
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