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| Quote ="jonh"Are those realistic though? I’d say absolutely not.
Seen talk too possibly you of top 6 next year and top 4 year after!!!
That is in my opinion too much to expect.
8-10th next year would be a good achievement and I think we have to expect a few years as fans hoping for solid mid table finishes before we can expect to consistently push towards the top 4.'"
I don't disagree, but that's where we are aiming.
I'd be happy if we were mid table and in the fight for playoffs with a view to be consistently in the 6 for the following years.
But we are currently in Championship so we don't really know how we'll fair when we get there.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I don’t think it is. We are not the Trinity of old and the foundations have been set and the owner is going to spend marquee money and full cap same as the likes of Wigan etc. as it stand we are planning to do exactly what Leigh did last year. Why wouldn’t he aim for top 6/playoffs?
With already 2 x England internationals signed up thats indicative he’s going to go for it.
If we finish outside top 6 and spend full cap next season with one of the best back room set ups (England conditioner etc) then I’d be very dissapointed.'"
I hope you are right.
Personally I’d be over the moon with 8th next year.
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| Quote ="jonh"I hope you are right.
Personally I’d be over the moon with 8th next year.'"
If we got 8th I’d be okay with it but I guess it depends on the squad we put together. Hard to judge at this point.
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| Some of the signings, possibly our ideal half might be on our radar for season after. Ste Mills knows when everyone is off contract and will update as new targets will be available. I would love a real high quality organising half but all the quota ones are on big money down under. Ollie Russell is the best one here off contract and hasn't kicked on under Watson but can anyone give me an example of anyone that has at hudds?
We have done well with poorer squads so with team togetherness we might even surprise our own doubters. We have 8 more players coming in only 4 of which are pretty public knowledge. We have a quota spot available and most clubs are nearly full. We may pull out a really wow signing.
Matt is a big of a showman in the best possible way so wouldn't shock me if we have another big name up our sleeve.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I was thinking of a higher level than Hampshire.
Like Hastings or Maloney or French or even [u=#FF0000Lam[/u when they came over.'"
Would like to have Lam for Gale's replacement but according to his dad might be going back to Aus.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't disagree, but that's where we are aiming.
I'd be happy if we were mid table and in the fight for playoffs with a view to be consistently in the 6 for the following years.
But we are currently in Championship so we don't really know how we'll fair when we get there.'"
Got to agree with both those sentiments, at the moment we have superior fitness and more strength in depth than any other championship club.
This years pack will be nucleus of next year. is is our current pack as good as the top teams in super league. Personally even with storton and mckmeeken I think we would struggle. Against the bottom teams I m sure we will compete.
As regards ‘we are spending the cap,’ so are a lot of other teams and they have a foundation of players that have been recruited or brought through the junior system. Sadly ours left and our team is going to have 9 non fed trained players only two of which has sl experience - neither of which set the world alight!
Atoni appears to be a totally different player - my opinion on Lino hasn’t really changed.
I look forward to the challenge and the journey but mid table respectability would be amazing
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't disagree, but that's where we are aiming.
I'd be happy if we were mid table and in the fight for playoffs with a view to be consistently in the 6 for the following years.
But we are currently in Championship so we don't really know how we'll fair when we get there.'"
Got to agree with both those sentiments, at the moment we have superior fitness and more strength in depth than any other championship club.
This years pack will be nucleus of next year. is is our current pack as good as the top teams in super league. Personally even with storton and mckmeeken I think we would struggle. Against the bottom teams I m sure we will compete.
As regards ‘we are spending the cap,’ so are a lot of other teams and they have a foundation of players that have been recruited or brought through the junior system. Sadly ours left and our team is going to have 9 non fed trained players only two of which has sl experience - neither of which set the world alight!
Atoni appears to be a totally different player - my opinion on Lino hasn’t really changed.
I look forward to the challenge and the journey but mid table respectability would be amazing
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| I'm holding out for a world class half too. Halves who would make the move do exist in the NRL - but it either takes some major 'persuasion' to make the leap, or they've been told they're not in the long term planning anymore, or they're just unhappy and need to reset. Matt Moylan going to Leigh is a prime example, and there are others - Kyle Flanagan, Luke Keary, Brayden Trindall, Brad Schneider, Chad Townsend, Jackson Hastings - who are gettable for different reasons.
Hampshire is a no from me. He's not at Wigan because he's a top-end player is he, he's there because he'd prefer to be at an SL club on tiny money than drop into the Championship. I've seen various interviews down the years where he just will not accept that he's not a Super League player. He struggles to square up a defensive line, runs his backs out of room, he's a scrappy, slappy sort of tackler and never sticks. He's fast, and he backs up, and occasionally kicks well, but we should be aiming higher than that.
Lam has made it clear he wants to go back to the NRL eventually, and in the meantime I can't see him leaving his Dad to come to Wakey.
For me, the perfect signing would be Hastings, though he seems to be back in favour at the Knights. But if we sold him the vision of Trinity being his team, part of a success story, a big fish in a small pond like his Salford days, and pay him £300k then you never know...
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| Two players linked with us had pretty poor games last night in a dour clash. Hall and Storton.
Good to see Tanginoa have another mare too. Hilarious when he ran across little Mikey and knocked the ball out of his hand.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Two players linked with us had pretty poor games last night in a dour clash. Hall and Storton.
Good to see Tanginoa have another mare too. Hilarious when he ran across little Mikey and knocked the ball out of his hand.'"
Thought Corey hall had a good game tbh. Did a lot of hard work in defence and bringing it out am from deep. Didn’t see any errors or anything either so not sure what made him poor. Storton didn’t have the best game but I’ve seen him play a lot better this season.
Tanginoa, that was a very funny moment I agree. Made me laugh.
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| To be fair I enjoyed the game but far too many errors by both teams to be a classic ,God help HKR if Lewis goes down for any length of time , he really does pull it out of the bag when needed but can also come up with brain farts at un opportune moments in games . Must say watching our x players I’m more than happy with our squad now and with some added quality here n their we will hold their own against most next season
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"=#FF0000Thought Corey hall had a good game tbh. Did a lot of hard work in defence and bringing it out am from deep. Didn’t see any errors or anything either so not sure what made him poor. Storton didn’t have the best game but I’ve seen him play a lot better this season.
Tanginoa, that was a very funny moment I agree. Made me laugh.'"
....Apart from the stroll past him for the try..........
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| Both Tanganoa and Hall were beaten on the inside resulting in tries
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"....Apart from the stroll past him for the try..........
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That’s literally one mistake in 80 minutes and discounting all the positive contributions. He had overall a pretty good game with a lot of positive contributions in attack and defence including last ditch tackle involvement. Very harsh if you branding players as having a poor game after a single bad read or mistake.
That may be all it takes for you to mark a player as having a poor game but I like to consider the performance over the full 80. Was it a poor error - yes. Did he have a poor game - no (and that was the original point I was replying to).
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"That’s literally one mistake in 80 minutes and discounting all the positive contributions. He had overall a pretty good game with a lot of positive contributions in attack and defence including last ditch tackle involvement. Very harsh if you branding players as having a poor game after a single bad read or mistake.
That may be all it takes for you to mark a player as having a poor game but I like to consider the performance over the full 80. Was it a poor error - yes. Did he have a poor game - no (and that was the original point I was replying to).'"
I think the issue is he consistently makes poor errors in defence.
He carried well and hit some good lines but also dropped some ball.
He’s a luxury player one we really couldn’t accommodate when we were in SL.
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| Quote ="jonh"I think the issue is he consistently makes poor errors in defence.
He carried well and hit some good lines but also dropped some ball.
He’s a luxury player one we really couldn’t accommodate when we were in SL.'"
Maybe so, I’m not convinced with him myself. He’s been around for years and I expected he’d probably be further ahead in his development than he is. He’s still young and could make a good SL centre but there’s still work to do with him on his game. Whether that’s with trinity who knows.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Maybe so, I’m not convinced with him myself. He’s been around for years and I expected he’d probably be further ahead in his development than he is. He’s still young and could make a good SL centre but there’s still work to do with him on his game. Whether that’s with trinity who knows.'"
Apologies I’m was at crossed wires I was talking about Kalepi.
I agree re Hall though too. Big year for him next year maybe career defining. He doesn’t seem able to settle anywhere and I think if he doesn’t impress next year he could be looking at Championship options for his next move.
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| While I do agree that it will be a big year for Hall, I do disagree with the claim of him not been able to settle anywhere.
He didnt want any part of the deal last year any more than what Dagger did. They were mere pawns.
Hall was never going to get in ahead of Opacic or SKD last year, and bearing in mind this year theyve brought in Hiku and Gildart. He was always going to struggle to get game time
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"While I do agree that it will be a big year for Hall, I do disagree with the claim of him not been able to settle anywhere.
He didnt want any part of the deal last year any more than what Dagger did. They were mere pawns.
Hall was never going to get in ahead of Opacic or SKD last year, and bearing in mind this year theyve brought in Hiku and Gildart. He was always going to struggle to get game time'"
I’d agree apart from the fact we will be his 6th club I think should he be confirmed for next year as expected, and also he wasn’t getting game time when Hiku was playing fullback at the start of the year.
It seemed he was actually being retrained to play secondrow.
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| I am not too sure about his history, but I thought we were his third club when he first arrived. After that I don't think his career path has been down to him, it was driven by others. It happens nowadays young players get moved here there and everywhere. Prime example is Esse, he must have played for about six clubs already
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| Quote ="jonh"Apologies I’m was at crossed wires I was talking about Kalepi.
I agree re Hall though too. Big year for him next year maybe career defining. He doesn’t seem able to settle anywhere and I think if he doesn’t impress next year he could be looking at Championship options for his next move.'"
No problem at all mate. Hall still could make a good SL centre. There’s something there to work with but his next move could be critical. Though personally looking at Jack Croft I can’t see much difference between the two and what they offer. Croft has been filling in well at centre when asked.
I couldn’t care less about Tanginoa. After a full year injured he bailed rather than take a deal with us to help the club this season. This after I believe being one of the highest paid players at the club. When he decided he didn’t have the stomach for it I couldn’t care less how he goes to be honest.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"No problem at all mate. Hall still could make a good SL centre. There’s something there to work with but his next move could be critical. Though personally looking at Jack Croft I can’t see much difference between the two and what they offer. Croft has been filling in well at centre when asked.
I couldn’t care less about Tanginoa. After a full year injured he bailed rather than take a deal with us to help the club this season. This after I believe being one of the highest paid players at the club. When he decided he didn’t have the stomach for it I couldn’t care less how he goes to be honest.'"
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"No problem at all mate. Hall still could make a good SL centre. There’s something there to work with but his next move could be critical. Though personally looking at Jack Croft I can’t see much difference between the two and what they offer. Croft has been filling in well at centre when asked.
I couldn’t care less about Tanginoa. After a full year injured he bailed rather than take a deal with us to help the club this season. This after I believe being one of the highest paid players at the club. When he decided he didn’t have the stomach for it I couldn’t care less how he goes to be honest.'"
Bang on.
On HKR, I could never understand the Hiku signing (especially after his time at Warrington) to play full back, seen as they already had Evalds, when that didn't work they had to find another position for him, that being centre, so CH became surplus.
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| Quote ="jonh"I think the issue is he consistently makes poor errors in defence.
He carried well and hit some good lines but also dropped some ball.
He’s a luxury player one we really couldn’t accommodate when we were in SL.'"
Personally I thought the bulk of the blame lay with Lewis, he over read the play and slid out leaving the gate open behind him. The gap was too big for the inside defender, Tanginoa, to get across and close, maybe Tanginoa was somewhat at fault but the fundamental error was Mikey Lewis’s. He broke the cardinal rule , ‘The ball is the threat’ and he slid before it had gone past him!
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| If Ollie Russel is a cert for us next season I’m one happy bunny after watching his second half performance against Les Cats yesterday, great repertoire to his game after Clunes went off for a HIA . Will only get better the more game time he gets under his belt ,as Watson starves him of game time by the looks . His kicks in play were superb and really helped bring Hudds back off the canvas for a second half rally
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