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| Barnsley Hull there is a difference between spoting it ,and doing something about it .That is why Chester was bad over the last 3 year Keep fingers crossed
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| Anyone have thoughts on who will be the assistant coaches?
My initial thoughts are that MA will need someone with experience, an older wise head. I think that he may go also for a recent former player, they know the club etc (similar to the reasons given for MA's appointment) and looking at recent former players, then Kirmo must be in with a shout.
I'm probably way off and another 'surprise' is in store.
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| Sorry should read Gull predicted text does my head in lol
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| Quote ="phe13"Anyone have thoughts on who will be the assistant coaches?
My initial thoughts are that MA will need someone with experience, an older wise head. I think that he may go also for a recent former player, they know the club etc (similar to the reasons given for MA's appointment) and looking at recent former players, then Kirmo must be in with a shout.
I'm probably way off and another 'surprise' is in store.'"
Why is an older head a wiser head. I know plenty of old people who’ve learned nothing. I also know some young people wise beyond their years.
One thing about Applegarth is that RL is his career, he doesn’t appear to have a plan B. He’s not dabbling like some do, it appears to be what he’s always wanted to do.
I think very early on Applegarth recognised his limitations as a player and chose to concentrate on what came next, might pay off.
Let’s also be honest if you’ve got that much experience and your still a number two??? What MA needs is another more junior MA regardless of age. He needs someone who believes in his goals and will back him all the way.
So yes the person could be older but for me they don’t have to be. They just need to be committed.
As for Kirmond he does strike me as the sort who’d make a great assistant coach. It’s a less political job that allows you to be more in with the players and that’s Kirmo all over. Also I don’t reckon he’s that ambitious either so no threat and that does matter.
It’s an untried partnership but both have been around the game a long time. Who know but I reckon MA might surprise us.
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"What I got from JM is that we are promoting from within. And not just the odd player or 2. This worries me somewhat are if you look at who has left, and the quality that has departed the team. If we struggled last year with the likes of Dave, Batch etc, then I worry that replacing with youngsters may not end too well. Especially if IMG split the league to 2 x 10.
Or maybe MC has already accounted for that in his spreadsheet - the 5 year plan starts with trimming the 6 figure wages from the squad and replacing with low 5 figure wages, let the side fall naturally to SL2 and in the meantime the youngsters mature into super league calibre players. Plus a little bit of moneyball in there (Bowden, Butler etc).
You have to be a hard hearted soul to do that, with zero emotion, but if there is any CEO in the league capable then it's MC.
Am I wrong?'"
I listened to the SMTM program with Craig Harrison last night. He’s hearing of a 14 team SL1, with potentially a three year license. If that is the case then clubs will have the opportunity to blood the young promising players without the fear of relegation. This would be an opportunity for every club to bring their youth forward, and at Trinity who better than Mark A, perhaps MC and JM have heard something, or they are very confident of their decisions.
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| Personally I am looking forward to Mark being head coach, what I see of the Academy and the reserves which admittedly is not a massive amount but the style of rugby played is very good. The young lads always seem to be competitive and if he can bring that through to the first team then we should have a good foundation to build on and improve as a team and as a club.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I listened to the SMTM program with Craig Harrison last night. He’s hearing of a 14 team SL1, with potentially a three year license. If that is the case then clubs will have the opportunity to blood the young promising players without the fear of relegation. This would be an opportunity for every club to bring their youth forward, and at Trinity who better than Mark A, perhaps MC and JM have heard something, or they are very confident of their decisions.'"
Well if true it would turn our Academy from a worthwhile endeavour into a possible game changer.
There is no doubt that we have some good young players coming through as it is but with a three year licence we could do seriously well.
It’s not just the players we have or the local youngsters either. The U17/19,s world is very fluid and if you happen to have an academy that offers good access to first team - then you become very attractive to ambitious young players like - Corey Hall.
The absolute dream would be to produce so much talent that we have to sell the surplus - that’s sell not let go. However more realistically we wil no longer have to carry that group of filler players. Instead when needed we can blood young players we believe to have serious talent.
TBH I’ve always believed MC and later JM were committed to the Academy on ideological ground as much as anything else. But if they have anticipated this then hats off, a coup.
It will take our friends across the common a decade to catch us up assuming they can.
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| JM said that the club received an apology today from Sky Sports relating to the "tone adopted" during the previously mentioned report.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Personally I am looking forward to Mark being head coach, what I see of the Academy and the reserves which admittedly is not a massive amount but the style of rugby played is very good. The young lads always seem to be competitive and if he can bring that through to the first team then we should have a good foundation to build on and improve as a team and as a club.'"
Foundation to build on? You’ve scraped another survival and your reserve/academy coach is now head coach. Good luck.
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| Quote ="atomic"Foundation to build on? You’ve scraped another survival and your reserve/academy coach is now head coach. Good luck.'"
Thanks
That's much appreciated
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| Quote ="atomic"Foundation to build on? You’ve scraped another survival and your reserve/academy coach is now head coach. Good luck.'"
You’ve got a ground you don’t own.
You’ve had two attempts at SL and failed miserably. Come and lecture us when you’ve been in SL for 25 years.
Your owned by a bloke who makes sun loungers (selling well at the moment?)
You have no youth system.
Your team is full of Aussies who’ve been holidaying in the championship for a year.
You’re in SL to make up the numbers assuming you make it.
Still I like Leigh, you though are a bit of a saddo
Good luck on all that.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"JM said that the club received an apology today from Sky Sports relating to the "tone adopted" during the previously mentioned report.'"
A apology is nothing ,the damage as been done. Sky doing all they can to show we are not good enough for S L
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| Quote ="atomic"Foundation to build on? You’ve scraped another survival and your reserve/academy coach is now head coach. Good luck.'"
You come across as a bitter Leigh supporter. Most fans on the Forum call for more young British RL coaches, more home grown players. In Mark Applegartn, we have such a coach and a BoD prepared to give him a chance on the success he’s already achieved at Trinity. It’s true we had a difficult season, but your claim that Trinity scraped another survival is way off the mark, Trinity finished 10 points ahead of the bottom club and above a fashionable club Warrington. I believe Leigh have 13 overseas players of which 6 will have to be released from before next season, we’ll see how your team rebuilding works out if you achieve promotion.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"You come across as a bitter Leigh supporter. Most fans on the Forum call for more young British RL coaches, more home grown players. In Mark Applegartn, we have such a coach and a BoD prepared to give him a chance on the success he’s already achieved at Trinity. It’s true we had a difficult season, but your claim that Trinity scraped another survival is way off the mark, Trinity finished 10 points ahead of the bottom club and above a fashionable club Warrington. I believe Leigh have 13 overseas players of which 6 will have to be released from before next season, we’ll see how your team rebuilding works out if you achieve promotion.'"
Yep he’s bitter and tragic.
I’ve had my moments with our mods on here but they have never trolled other clubs forums. Maybe Atomic could learn from them.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yep he’s bitter and tragic.
I’ve had my moments with our mods on here but they have never trolled other clubs forums. Maybe Atomic could learn from them.'"
Don't think he's a mod now, there a quite a few decent Leigh fans on Rl fans and he's managed with great ease to get up they're noses as well, that's maybe why he's no longer a mod on there.
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| Quote ="atomic"Foundation to build on? You’ve scraped another survival and your reserve/academy coach is now head coach. Good luck.'"
Leigh can only dream of "scraping another survival", you may get your chance next season but, need to make it into SL first Good Luck
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Leigh can only dream of "scraping another survival", you may get your chance next season but, need to make it into SL first
Good Luck'"
There will be a lot of fallout from this season in the Championship. Both Fev and Leigh have gone for broke to get in SL and I fear Fev may well already be broke.
Beaumont is betting everything on getting into SL before licensing returns. I don’t blame him but it will come at a cost.
People have this ludicrous notion tha Beaumont is a rich man, he isn’t, he’s Glover level. He’s borrowed to do this and the debt will need to be paid. Even if it does go to a three year liscence it won’t make life financially any easier for Leigh.
There will be a day of reckoning for at least two Potential SL clubs in the near future, Salford and Leigh. Looks like Salford may play their way out of it, I seriously doubt Leigh will.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"JM said that the club received an apology today from Sky Sports relating to the "tone adopted" during the previously mentioned report.'"
You know why this is.
It’s not because of Marks age or experience its pure snobbery.
If Mark had been a great player and thus famous they would be lording him now.
Sadly Mark was a fairly obscure player even to Trinity fans so his name carries no kudos
I hope in a years time Mash can stand in front of those Sky cameras and face down cheap shot merchants like Wilkins and say to them, as the great Ali did, ‘what’s my name!’
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| Quote ="vastman"You know why this is.
It’s not because of Marks age or experience its pure snobbery.
If Mark had been a great player and thus famous they would be lording him now.
Sadly Mark was a fairly obscure player even to Trinity fans so his name carries no kudos
I hope in a years time Mash can stand in front of those Sky cameras and face down cheap shot merchants like Wilkins and say to them, as the great Ali did, ‘what’s my name!’'"
Is he going to be punching him while he says it
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| IN[/fimg Quote ="PopTart"Is he going to be punching him while he says it'"
PT I would pay to see that
In truth I have used the quote out of context but it seemed apt.
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| Quote ="vastman"You know why this is.
It’s not because of Marks age or experience its pure snobbery.
If Mark had been a great player and thus famous they would be lording him now.
Sadly Mark was a fairly obscure player even to Trinity fans so his name carries no kudos
I hope in a years time Mash can stand in front of those Sky cameras and face down cheap shot merchants like Wilkins and say to them, as the great Ali did, ‘what’s my name!’'"
Neither Peet nor Rohan Smith and even Christian Woolf had any playing career to speak of. Wilkins comments attitude was total in keeping with his anti Wakefield stance. It has backfired a bit on him and Brookes this time.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Neither Peet nor Rohan Smith and even Christian Woolf had any playing career to speak of. Wilkins comments attitude was total in keeping with his anti Wakefield stance. It has backfired a bit on him and Brookes this time.'"
Just as Peet and Smith have done at Wigan and Leeds, it's up to MA and Trinity to, once again, prove the doubters wrong.
Mind you, Wilkin's comments were massively disrespectful, especially as he will have played against Applegarth in SL, shocking
Basically, it shows just how poor Wilkin's knowledge is.
I had to smile when he was talking about players "diving" too.
It wasn't so long ago when Trinity were playing Saints at BV, that Wilkin was doing an excellent dying swan act, only to jump to his feet as soon as the penalty was awarded against Trinity.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Neither Peet nor Rohan Smith and even Christian Woolf had any playing career to speak of. Wilkins comments attitude was total in keeping with his anti Wakefield stance. It has backfired a bit on him and Brookes this time.'"
I agree, but had he been a name, especially from a 'big' club it would have been more mooted, he wouldn't be so vocal IMO. Wilkin was a cheap shot player we all know that, so no surprise he's now the schoolyard bully.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Not wanting to be controversial but I like Wilkin as a pundit
I don't find him anti Wakefield, he just doesn't sugar coat our issues.
Saying that, he made himself look a bit stupid yesterday by not doing his homework.
I guess he was trying to say he isn't a well known coach but ultimately, there is enough info on him to be able to tell people who he is'"
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| In all of this we've kinda forgot that we have to get someone in to take over Marks previous roles!
Head of Youth Performance, Academy\Reserves head coach, first team assistant coach, anything else the bloke didn't do?!
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