When I arrived at the ground and the Trinity players pre match warming up, Max Jowitt was amongst the group and I just assumed he was in the 17 to play. Please God, don’t let Gaskell or Lineham play for Trinity ever again. MJ on one leg and wearing a blindfold would outplay them both. I’ve had some lows in recent years watching Trinity, but today I have to say even the referee performed better than Trinity.

How predictable, you're a big man now after one defeat and now you have Snowie as your temporary new best buddy, you really are tragic.

Yes pimp, I'm delighted by that scoreline and in no way am I upset or angry, because only gobsh*tes like you feel those emotions. Happy?

Still missing the point and cut out the insults, I have kids who are more grown up than you.

The club and the players are a one. I will help to save you typing more insults.

The players don't perform, the clubs loses. People stop attending and buying merch.

The club don't provide, IE. Suitable training facilities, personal support etc the players don't perform.

Yes, the club is doing everything right off of the field and need everyone's support going forward but again you missed the point.

MOST - read that word. Most people, myself included have bought tickets for the Wigan game already, they are cheap, I sit seated because I take my daughter. By refusing to go and losing a tenner, if done on mass, sends a message to the club.

I do hope that helps.

wheres foggy gone

The club provides the finances to sign and retain players and coaches. If they fail in this then the team deteriorates because the more the better players leave there is no production line of juniors coming through fast enough and with enough ability to replace them which is of course the cheapest option. The club’s finances then decide what can be spent so yes it is their fault.
I know I am going against all you have been told but don’t worry your next instructions will follow shortly. I bet you noticed that I didn’t have to resort to insults, it’s a sign you should wait and not rush your replies after a defeat. I doubt Snowie would consider me his best mate but it is possible to agree on something I have with you on rare occasions and I definitely don’t count you as a friend.

Lost in the mists of denial and probably searching for Vastman to help him find his way out.

What insult, it's a statement of fact, it was an idiotic comment in my opinion, I didn't call you an idiot, there is a huge difference, it's called debate.

No, I didn't miss any point. You may not be robbing the club of money, I'm a ST ticket holder so I won't. However what you are suggesting is negative and will encourage people who have not yet paid to stop attending. How can that possibly help?

The club cannot get rid of half a team this season even if they wanted to. I'm absolutely certain that the BOD know people are unhappy with that that result. I mean seriously do you honestly think they don't care and aren't as gutted as us. These people have sunk far more into this club than you or me. You don't have a monopoly on the pain, they are also fans, Jesus H it's not like there is a profit in it for them. There isn't even any prestige.

Like it or not we start again next week. It's gutting but nobody has a magic wand. The team, not the club, is in the doldrums, let's not push the club there aswell.

Personally if I were you I'd leave your daughter at home, she doesn't deserve to watch what we currently are. But me and you are adults and we will have to take it on the chin and hope better days are around the corner.

One final thought. I've criticised WP on another thread but then I had a thought. What if he too knows we have a team of chancers and lightweights, maybe he's let it be known that he wants a clear out and he's trying to work out who should stay or go. I suspect he knows after today that Minns and Gaskell are two of them.
Could be way off but as I'm not privy to such matters I can only speculate.

Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forward.

Irony overload.

You really are a classic snide, and yes that is meant as an insult.

I’m just reading this thread and I have to chuckle.

Not laughing about the result or clearly the performance but the response of some of our fans.

When they say Trinity is a rollercoaster of emotion it really couldn’t be described any better.

Few people who were talking about too 6 after 2 wins are now saying we are hopeless again.

What a difference a week makes in the life of a Trinity supporter.

The reality is we are on paper a bottom 2 side this year. If we finish above that great season. If we finish bottom, terrible season, a disaster.

That is where we are as a club and more than likely will continue to sit until we sort a few things out.

Firstly and most importantly the stadium development and the revenue streams that could bring and also we have to phase out players on inflated wages. We can see both these things happening but they cannot happen overnight.

We are all passionate about Trinity and I guess that is why emotions lead to the bickering but maybe today is a day to go outside sit in the garden, enjoy a cold beer and forget this afternoon ever happened.

In 2 weeks time we have a huge game, and our outlook could be very bleak or one of elation, and let’s not forget we have a habit of giving Wigan a scare or 2.

Why bring me into your attempt at once again causing mischief on here, the difference is that the 3 of us have one thing in common, we go and watch the games whereas what do you do, instead of sitting in your deck chair at the side of the pool in Tirana Albania, you come on here to get your enjoyment at the clubs demise, what a star.

Rose tinted, you never change do you rhubarb. If people chose to remain optimistic that’s there right, they don’t need your permission. You really are up yourself when it’s a bad result, but we never get a peep when we win.

Spot on. It’s tragic when your life is so empty you get your kicks out of misery.

You and me don’t feel the pain or disappointment, apparently we have rose tinted disease or is it Dutch elm, who knows.

I literally gasped when I saw the team sheet on twitter.

I was up this morning at 4.30am so I can easily go to bed now knowing I usually feel better the following morning.

Whose rhubarb, I don’t even like the stuff and if I was you I would read the Hull thread before saying I never comment on the rare victories but why let facts get in your way. I am afraid you are wrong again will you ever learn, I am sure PT will confirm my posts.

Did not expect you to know where i am really with you not getting free tickets for our game anymore, giz a ring sometime, oh dearI nearly forgot you can't can you

leave it at that flopsey you'd be out of your depth in a car park puddle.

The Table doesn’t lie unfortunately, you are right we are a bottom 2 side. With a full strength side playing with confidence we can give anyone a game and potentially come away with the points, however for as long as I can remember consistency has never been our strong point, but again that points squarely at the coaches and players at our disposal.
Losing to the bottom 3rd side by that margin is filth, league 1 teams wouldn’t get beat by that margin. It can’t be blamed on 2 players either, it’s a team collective. And with that it seems rotten to lose by that much.

PT doesn't care.

I do have 1 last question for todays complete disaster. For what reason can anyone explain why Max was left out, not injured as he was 18th man, left out- yet again. It is totally baffling. Now he couldn't have prevented the scoreline, due to the senior pros not giving a toss, but it is really strange.

They can not be any changes in the Squad except our better players who are out of contract at end of season We will be left with the older past it players ,who were given stupid long contracts by a Coach who as now gone .The problem as left but we are left with the quality of is signings on the field which is no way near S L standed

still the same foggy my mates nicknamed you, thick, dense and won't go away, I preferred tag along when you were Billy no mates and jumped on everyone's trips, even ambushing our cricket trip. When you admit you change your username for your own fun and attacking people it says it all what a bored individual you are. Go talk to your fish in fact talk to your tank you bore the fish to death. You have no credibility on here whatsoever.
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I was going to take the day off work, buy tickets for my family and spend about £30 on fuel to travel up to Belle Vue to watch the match. I won’t bother now and save my time and money to do something more worthwhile and enjoyable….

Well done you know the capital of Albania, did you look it up. I have told you that if I attend or not does not impact the club because unlike you I have a season ticket. I paid in advance to be disappointed you on the other hand choose to pay per game.
I don’t enjoy the clubs demise it is actually those like you, PT and Vastman who encourages it by backing the club at every turn whilst I and others point out what the outcome will be if we carry on our current trajectory.
I doubt if someone actually attends the game it is going to make them play better because they haven’t for you much this season.
I would remind you not to forget to put the usual supporting emoji against Vastmans post.

It doesn’t matter because I am correct and Vasty wrong again I don’t actually need your verification I just thought he would or is this the new team motto you are trying out.

Take no notice he hasn't been for years

well it's certainly back to the drawing board now.
Wigan must be rubbing their hands in glee, and Toulouse shaking in their boots at the thought of meeting us at Magic Weekend!
Sort that one out tomorrow Willie and look us in the eye and tell us the players are 100% behind the club!