Perfectly sums it up

Everyone knew Chester should have gone years before he did

Other than that one decision I’ll back carter all the way, everything he’s done for the club has being excellent
Also believe he kept him on out of loyalty and decency

Sorry W Poaching as had little input to the garbage that is in the team .If you pick a team made up from the Championship you will play like a team from the Championship you may get the odd win whoever the Coach is .

I’m with you all the way apart from its all down to the Poching who imo has his hands tied and has to work with the squad and the financial constraints put before him , the lad must be bereft watching the show that unfolded before him last night .He’s got what he’s got until he can move some on and bring some in ,and until such times there are only so many ways you can dress up a turd . How about the players putting some effort in as a way of alleviating the pressure we now find ourselves under , but for whatever reasons they can’t or don’t want to . I would hope that things are afoot to chop and change players at the earliest opportunity as I cannot believe that our performances are solely down to poaching’s coaching . He certainly doesn’t coach them to either drop or knock the ball on at every available opportunity, defend constantly offside so the opposition get a piggyback up the field time and time again . No he doesn’t and that is where the blame for all this lays squarely at that lacklustre bunch of deadbeats that I for now have to call my team .

Ok all the slaver must stop magic weekend is our cup final win or relegation simple !!

Even if we do somehow manage to beat Toulouse at Magic Weekend, we will still not be out of the brown smelly stuff as they are improving week on week and we are deteriorating week on week !!

I see they've freed up a quota spot this week as well. If they are clever with its use it could make things a good chunk tougher for us as well.

Yep they certainly give things alot of thought, they have realised that they must mix things up to stay up.
Good on them, puts us to shame

Ok I could have made it a bit clearer. What I really meant to say was Willie will get the blame. I appreciate he has to play the cards he's dealt but I really don't understand some team selections but I suppose he's a desparate man and is trying different ways round things. He will still get the chop though if things fail!

It’s baffling to me how you have selective memories

Clearly you’ve forgotten Glover. Clearly you’ve forgotten two top 8 finishes in the last five years.

Are you so xxxx that you don’t realise that to build a basket case club back up with a rebuilt stadium and a rebuilt club off the pitch.

Do you honestly think we could have carried on as we were.

Sacrifices have to be made and if that means potential relegation then so be it. Because what keyboard warriors like you don’t seem to grasp is that relegation was inevitable anyway.

For heavens sake look at BV, look at it with open eyes. It’s light years behind and it been like that for decades. The only club near us is Cas but for whatever reason they get more support than they technically should do.

We have been on borrowed time since 1979 on the field and forever off it. How we are still on SL baffles me. Very little of this is MC’s fault.

Finally the on field performances are down to the team, stop taking utter rot.

Edited: No need Vasty

Liked your post but I hope your not saying the top 8 finished was down to the Coach He inerited a decent team left by B Smith and also
J Kear was at the club .A good Coach is some one who can rebuild a new team when players need changing and still keep them at the top.TSmith , Watson ,,The guy at Wires are 3 that spring to mind .But as for blaming Mr Carter for the state of the team is way out of order

So after 8 years of the Carter regime potential relegation would be acceptable, well it should be viewed as a massive failure.
You seem to treat what's gone off at the club as a miracle in the making but anyone can make cut back after cut back.
Creativitys a much more difficult proposal and one not seen or implemented at Trinity.
Like it or not relegation would be failure and put firmly in the lap at the present owner.

I agree relegation would be a failure on the field.
The cost cutting is not so easy. You only have to look at the previous regimes at this and other clubs that could not and struggled because of it.

It’s the balance between cost cutting and maintaining some progression that’s hard to achieve, the penalty for failure is potential or eventual relegation. Unfortunately there’s an interim negative effect for a year on year downward spiral and that’s a degradation of core support causing a decrease in revenue, this in turn makes it harder to arrest the fall.

The earlier you can recognise that your model isn’t working the more chance you have of recovering, unfortunately we have a bloody minded accountant who privately won’t accept his failings at the helm.

I've heard him say in public that he hasn't got everything right.
But when the solution is throwing more money at it, the options are limited.

WP said in his post match Leeds comments that we are well into next years recruitment and our far in with a few different players. I can imagine things will be very busy at the minute behind the scenes

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Unfortunately I can't see any announcements being made while we're in such a precarious situation in the league table.
We just have unconfirmed rumours about present players going elsewhere.

I would say 100% certain that ALL players off contract will sadly leave and a new influx will arrive. This will be a book balancing issue. You cannot defend some of those on bigger bucks who are bang average most weeks and, if we do somehow manage to stay up, which is unlikely, we will be haunted by the same players rubbing our noses actually trying for their new clubs. I just wish we could keep our talisman DF.
Some of them need to be sent to Sheffield a.s.a.p. I used to book my holidays around fixtures, now, I couldn’t give a toss. Neither will I waste money on away games to watch utter gash incompetence.
Concentration, effort and commitment. Not much to ask for,is,it.

At the moment, on current form, there won't be too many that would get a super league gig

I think with the position we are in we will find it difficult to attract the players we need to attract, which I should imagine will be frustrating for all involved at the club. If we would of beat Toulouse and Leeds we would of been in a lot better position to give said players the confidence that we are in a confident and comfortable position to be in SL for 2023. Not sure about the announcements, but we definitely need abit of positivity to come out of the club.
Toulouse have bolstered their team with two decent new signings and just opened up another quota spot, so along with their current form, they will feel pretty confident in overtaking is surely. I still feel out team is far superior to Toulouse, yet we find ourselves in this position. We simply have players underperforming and some trying their ringers out, unfortunately sometimes you’re only as good as your lowest common denominator, I’m sure WP will know the craic.

The last two sentences sum it up for me!

Hi Pat,just had a look at the Toulouse team away at Shudds the other night

1 Ashall-Bott
2 Matt Russell
3 Hankinson
4 Jussaume
5 Schaumkel
6 Albert
7 Corey Norman
8 Navarrete
9 Marion
10 Daniel Alvaro
11 Stefani
12 Andrew Dixon
13 Puech
subs
14 Cunningham
15 Harrison hansen
16 Sangare
17 Mitch garbutt

There is a lot of experience throughout that team and especially on the bench.I think before the season started I would have said we had a better team, but I think much closer now.The point being though,is that they are playing quite well, and we aren't.

Just seen on Facebook, that there is another fans page out there now.

I've read some of the posts this morning, one that the stadium revamp us now in doubt. No funding until plot 8 has started, and it isn't been started.

If so, doesn't rain for us, it pours

I've also been told this but does it mean the whole development is in threat or is the funding there for the stand and not the rest of the ground.

As far as I have read the funding has already been deposited, but who knows with this saga.

I think the RWB one was set up because North Standers was getting too negative for some fans using it. Conversely it looks like this TF one is in response to the RWB not being negative enough for some fans using it.