The never say die attitude was so evident in the lads last night and as most have said not completing sets in the first half was our downfall.
So proud of everyone and confident with performances like that we'll win more than we lose.
If there is one thing I would like to see though is the introduction of the captains challenge as it may just lift the refs performance as it must be demoralising for the players when they see some calls go against them. That said though take nothing away from the lads. They kept going and Catalans were definitely on the back foot at the end.

But there not silly things are they, they are exactly the things you’d expect from an as hoc team. Let’s have some realism here, players in all teams make errors and in teams lacking experience they tend to make more.

Why not just concentrate on the positives. I don’t get this idea that you can’t just say well done without some side to the odd negative. Sometimes it’s needed but IMO this is not one, what exactly do you think it achieves assuming you think WP should do the same?

So you don’t think battye not playing the ball correctly isn’t a school boy error which led directly to a try , well it is in my book

Wouldn't we all, unfortunately unless Sky decide to show all the games like Fox sport can't see it happening, like it is now without the cameras too much of a disadvantage, left to a referee whose reliant on a touch judge who can't see the end of his nose, it might help Saints and Leeds and Wigan/wire who are always on Sky but not the rest.

Agreed, the lad has got a great rugby brain & with proper coaching I think he could make a good standoff. After yesterday he deserves another run-out next week, regardless of who's available.

Regarding the game, it's a shame we looked under cooked in the first quarter, however the fifth tackle penalty for the alleged high shot on McMeeken was a killer.

I was expecting a right shellacking yesterday, what a pleasant surprise, & the team should take that performance into next week.

Can't find the actual incident on the replay, but I think you'll find the penalty was against Pitts for being off-side and picking the ball up rather than Ashurst hitting the player's arm, as the penalty is given 5 metres to the left of the sticks rather than directly in front, where Ashurst was ??

Ashurst knocking the hookers hand on the 5th tackle, on our line was a schoolboy error from a senior player.
Catalan got a scrum when the Catalan player knocked the arm of the Wakefield player .Do not see the diffrence.Any body see the Catalan player bend down to play the ball ,then brought the ball back up then played the ball .The ref gave Wakfield off side because they had moved up when it looked like the Catalan player was going to play the ball at the first attempt, Only about 10 seconds difference ,but is that cheeting

This …… They got away with loads at their play the ball ! It was mcmeekin that dummied it and they scored from the penalty . Same with the Ashurst incident .. messing around and the ref fell for it ! Rubbish decisions … and the lay on by Drinkwater near the end was embarrassing it was that long .. not a peep from the officials . Some really harsh calls for Wakey tonight !

Pity you pick that up because I thought him and Arona had their best games for ages, against a big physical Catalans pack.

Thanks for back up Cocker only seen it once as did not record game .Pity the Rugby League can not see it.It is some thing that wants stamping out fast.The big clubs get most of the 50 \50 calls as it is

Just found it now at 59:00...it's definitely Pitts that gets penalised for being off-side (even though he wasn't !!!), rather than Ashurst hitting the arm, as the ref walks over to Pitts and says "you're off" and awards the penalty there.

I suppose we brought Catalan down to our level right mr wilkin.



Great performance from the lads especially Max and Brad and there's nothing else really what hasn't already been said regarding the Ref, think Specsavers come to mind.

Just shows how a partisan crowd can influence officials. Every time the crowd didnt like something they jeered and sure enough got the majority of the decisions.

Just want to add a few things.

I thought all our forwards put a real shift in yesterday. Was very pleased to see Aydin mixing it up in the middle. The lad doesn’t take a backwards step and looks like he’s ready to stake a claim for a bench spot this season.

I thought Bowes was impressive too. When I saw him end of 2020 I think he was getting pushed around like a pinball but against Catalans he tackled well and offered some options. Massively positive and he looks like he could be a decent 9 option should he be needed this year.

Special mention to Batchelor who again filled in at right centre and did a great job. I really like the look of Batch and it’s hard to forget he’s only 23! If there’s the option I would be tying him up long term as our permanent right SR for the future.

The whole team never threw the towel in and soon these tight losses will turn into wins! Keep it up.

Don’t think you could have picked a worse example to make your point and I rate you as a poster.

That wasn’t a schoolboy error, it was just an error that every player in every team makes on a regular basis. Sometimes you get away with them other times you don’t,

If there is such a thing as a schoolboy error Drinkwaters?? pass in in the last minute was it. True it wasn’t going to cost them the game but it was utterly pointless. Grix a few years ago, that was bad because getting it wrong actually took more effort than getting it right.

Battye for me made an unforced error, a momentary lack of concentration. All people in all professions make them all the time, it’s how we/they react and the damage limitation that matters. Although we couldn’t hold the line on this occasion overall we did well on that regard but you just can’t win them all. Isolating one player doesn’t help.

As I said some of the schoolboy errors from yesterday were things that we were all taught as children to do. There are some things that absolutely need to be forgotten about, as it will come with time playing together but the basics are the same regardless of what team you’re in. You probably won’t understand if you didn’t play when you were a kid.

As to congratulating the side, read the thread back. I’m more than proud of the performance from yesterday. Just can’t turn a blind eye to some things…

Can you explain to me (without digging a deeper hole) the exact reason Drinkwaters is a schoolboy error yet Battyes wasn’t?

Both errors leading to a try except again one you’re taught to do right from being 5 years old “thats it little lad, pop the ball on the floor and roll it backwards” and the other comes a little further down the line and requires a little more skill.

Life doesn’t work like that though, not just in RL but in anything.

Personal question and you’re not obliged to answer but is your own life not littered with errors? Mine is. We’re they not mostly errors you were warned about as a child? Mine were.

Who are these perfect people? Do you think RL players are above normal human behaviour? Because they are not.

Doctors train for years but they still make errors. If you didn’t have errors in sport you wouldn’t have a sport, especially team sports. You’d just be watching 13 robots playing 13 robots and every game being a 0 - 0 draw.

Fair enough mate, it was just from what Sky showed yesterday seemed to focus more on the hitting of the arm.

I guess the ref had already told Pitts and blew for offside, I’d imagine they’d still of called back should Pitts not have been off.

Listen it’s sunday night and I can’t be bothered carrying this petty argument on any longer , you have your view on the matter and I have mine ,whether it was a silly mistake or a schoolboy one it still had the same outcome … a try

Not having a go at any team member 1315 I thought they all stood up exceptionally well against a far more experienced squad and came out of the encounter a far more Cohesive and workmanlike squad than I gave them credit for before kick off ,I’ll be honest I was hoping for damage limitation when I saw the team sheet ,but I think a lot in the world of rugby league will have seen the result and genuinely be surprised how close we got to turning them over in their own backyard.Poaching certainly has a headache incoming picking the team for saints after this showing .

Again? I explained it in the post so try reading it properly and dig yourself out of your own hole. If your going to try points scoring you need to be sharper than that sunshine.

I’ll reiterate one thing just so it’s clear even to you. I think the statement ‘schoolboy error’ is an utterly stupid one and hands up I’ve used it myself. It’s meaningless which is why commentators use it all the time.

Do you really think the game is as simple as that and there are no other factors or context to errors. Do you really think Battye doesn’t know how to play the bal and didn’t fully intend to do so or that he just couldn’t be bothered. Or is is it just what it was, an error brought on by being a human being whose been getting belted for the past 20 mins

One more thing, who are these players and teams who don’t make errors? I’ve watched every SOO and they are the pinnacle of the game yet I’ve seen some howlers in those games - explain why they are not schoolboy?

Absolutely littered with errors but some things I learnt from a very early age, not to do again. Like try and eat my dinner quickly so I could get back out but forget about the fact that it’s piping hot and needs time to cool down. It happened, I learnt my lesson and guess what, these days I blow my food or give it more time to cool! If it was to happen again it would be a basic, silly, schoolboy error.

Life might not work like that but professional sport does, they train day in day out to drill the basics down so they perform to the best of their ability. Some times an error occurs and it’s something that is simply an error, maybe knocking on a ball that’s thrown to you in the pouring conditions but sometimes an error occurs like crossing, giving away a silly penalty after a difficult defensive set on your line (appreciate FIL this wasn’t actually blown for but does happen) or even a common one at Trinity, shooting out of the line leaving your winger to defend against 2-3 players. They, they are basic, silly, schoolboy errors.

Of course theyre not above human behaviour but it’s not to say there isn’t a difference between the kind of mistakes they make.

Schoolboy error from you there Tim, not as easy as it looks is it?

You didn’t explain anything, just waffled on to try and prove your point. The fact of the matter is Battye, to your own admission “an unforced error, a momentary lack of concentration.”. The momentary lack of concentration was doing one of the first things he will have been taught when playing rugby, something he’s done thousands of times, a rookie, schoolboy, basic error. Just because you don’t like the term doesn’t make it any less true.

Your last two paragraphs are pointless, never said any of that stuff so I won’t waste my time responding. Plus we’ll just diverge and discuss them, getting you away from this topic. (Probably what you were aiming for)