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| Why change my chippy, probably one of the best in Wakefield, and they are passionate about the team too.
As for knowing what's going off, then no I don't, as probably not many on here do either Vasty, that is apart from you, but as you have pointed put on numerous occasions, too much negativity and idle gossip, can have a negative impact and disrupt the team.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Horo had a mare in the penalty count, but otherwise he had a good game.
It seems obvious that Pauli Pauli is carrying an injury from the way his leg is strapped up, and he is playing in colder and muddier grounds than he is used to and after a long lay-off. He's going to get better as he gets fitter and the grounds get harder. He'll be a fan favourite by the end of the summer, and at least he is recovering his fitness against beatable teams and in games we are winning.'"
As others have said CC said it's an old injury he straps up for precautionary reasons, nothing to do with the leg break or the car crash. Agree with the rest. Wood in an interview said he'd come over missing a fair bit of preseason and wasn't as fit as he normally would be because of his leg break. So he's no doubt behind all the other players in terms of where they are in their fitness.
It seems obvious that CC is trying to ease him in gently over these first few games and with those gadgets on their back will be monitoring his progress as each game passes. Even at this point, you can see what he's going to bring when he hits peak form, he's already a complete handful for opposition defenses but isn't playing big enough minutes quite yet.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think Horo has had a slow start with some pluses but more things to improve. It happens with new signings sometimes. It takes time to adjust.
His tackle success % is the lowest of all the forwards. I'm almost tempted to say the missed tackles stat needs a recount it is so high, but at the moment he is reading 16 missed and 96 completed.
His attack is better with an average gain of 5.96 metres which is only ok but ok.
He's made 2 errors with the ball and given 4 penalties away.
In summary I think it's a "Could do better" report.
But I've seen him do better so I think he's worth pursuing.
Stats sometimes hide players being targeted or players having to cover other weak defenders so is not the only consideration and he has only played 3 games so far so let's see how he develops.'"
So before yesterday he'd hardly made an error or given a penalty away. There's no doubt though after yesterday he could do better and as a guy coming into a new side, I'd expect him to gradually settle in more and improve. Saying that I wouldn't be surprised if next game CC may get Batchelor in for example. Just to say if you play poor and you can lose your place because we've got these young guns on your heels, just to keep the players on their toes.
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| Wakey don't even get a mention on the front page os League Express!
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| 3 wins from 3 and people are picking fault with individual players as though they watched every move they made in all 3, that's 3
just to emphasize 3, games
Reality check time!!
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"It was a well fought game, and did very well to come back with the points.
Catalans certainly showed up and made us work for it.
Again too many penalties, but more worryingly, most, seemed by the same player. It could be trying too hard, or trying to settle a few scores.
He was our signing of intent, but not convinced yet. I said at the time I would rather see Batch, Jordy or Annakin more game time, and at the moment I feel the same. Early days yet to be binned off as Chris Chesters worse signing as someone put earlier, only time will tell.
Hope it does work out as I don't like negativity as it can cause friction in camp, and we are trying to build a stable group. The frustrating thing for all concerned should it not work, there is a quota spot here at stake.'"
He's had one bad game. Get a grip.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"He's had one bad game. Get a grip.'"
Agreed, but it was a real hum dinger stinker and could have cost us a very tight game. I expected a reduced penalty count with Kirmond taking a rest.
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| only real negative i see at the minute is how short our goal line drop outs are, i dont remember Grix taking them last season, but some on saturday seemed to be falling short of our 40m line putting us under instant pressure, think that needs sorting quicky the rest will come as the season progresses and the weather improves,
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| Quote ="Acatinbullland"only real negative i see at the minute is how short our goal line drop outs are, i dont remember Grix taking them last season, but some on saturday seemed to be falling short of our 40m line putting us under instant pressure, think that needs sorting quicky the rest will come as the season progresses and the weather improves,'"
A bit of variation in the kick offs would be nice as well.
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| Like I also said Jakey, he may well have been trying too hard, or trying to settle a few scores with some ex team mates, it happens.
Just not quite seeing the signing of intent yet, but like with other overseas signings, sometimes it takes a few games to fully settle in.
And just for the record it wasn't me who said he was our worst signing under Chester, it was a comment on here, or on of Trinitys Facebook page after the game.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"3 wins from 3 and people are picking fault with individual players as though they watched every move they made in all 3, that's 3
just to emphasize 3, games
Reality check time!!'"
I thought it was only me. I was going to post the same but I'd only have been accused of ruining a thread or denying people the the right to an opinion.
3 games, 3 wins, what the hell are people doing picking at anyone at this point. Frankly the only team firing at present is Saints and even they arn't setting the world alight!
I'm delighted with what I've seen so far from ALL players. The timings are a bit out but so what, at this time of year you don't want to peak you just want to pick up points.
Let's save the good stuff for Cas, it's not that far away. Let's arrive at that game if possible with10 points in the bag. Then let's have bodies and reputations on the line when it's for pride and bragging rights. Trust me these early games won't mean a thing by comparison.
As for judging players especially new ones after just 3 games and 3 wins, do certain posters never learn?
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| Quote ="Acatinbullland"only real negative i see at the minute is how short our goal line drop outs are, i dont remember Grix taking them last season, but some on saturday seemed to be falling short of our 40m line putting us under instant pressure, think that needs sorting quicky the rest will come as the season progresses and the weather improves,'"
Agree also finn doesn't seem to be striking the ball with the same fluency that he's had in previous seasons - most of the kicks have been difficult but last year was kicking them for fun
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"As for knowing what's going off, then no I don't, as probably not many on here do either Vasty, that is apart from you, but as you have pointed put on numerous occasions, too much negativity and idle gossip, can have a negative impact and disrupt the team.'"
The difference is that not many on here profess to know whats going on, and vasty is right about too much negativity, so if you accept that then why do you post negative comments and single out one player for being penalised 3 times for headshots in a very intense mainly forward battle having played for the full 80mins with more than his share of tackling and ball carries, both Huby twice and Arona were also penalised for silly penalties, would you care to comment on that as well.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Agreed, but it was a real hum dinger stinker and could have cost us a very tight game. I expected a reduced penalty count with Kirmond taking a rest.'"
Okay he didn't set the game alight on Saturday apart from 2 head shots 1 facial and 1 knock on what else contributed to a real humdinger stinker as you so eloquently put it.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Agree also finn doesn't seem to be striking the ball with the same fluency that he's had in previous seasons -[u most of the kicks have been difficult[/u but last year was kicking them for fun'"
That's the problem, when your wingers score tries they tend to score them in the corners.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"That's the problem, when your wingers score tries they tend to score them in the corners.'"
That's cos Johnstone doesn't have enough pace to allow him to outstrip all the defenders and then stroll into the middle and place it under the sticks - he's shocking!!!
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| Quote ="little wayne69"That's the problem, when your wingers score tries they tend to score them in the corners.'" thanks for enlightening me would never have guessed ! Nevertheless last season he was kicking most of the long kicks from the left side .
Re horo he had a mare , gave other team 18 uneccesary tackles, or are we now saying he had a good game ? An odd penalty in a tight game so what it happens !
If you were ranking players on that game he’d have been down the bottom along with huby and Pauli
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| Quote ="Fordy"That's cos Johnstone doesn't have enough pace to allow him to outstrip all the defenders and then stroll into the middle and place it under the sticks - he's shocking!!!
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Okay he didn't set the game alight on Saturday apart from 2 head shots 1 facial and 1 knock on what else contributed to a real humdinger stinker as you so eloquently put it.'"
Ha ha. Has a bit of what have the Romans ever done for us about it that
I would measure humdinger by the number of times I shout out "Oh FFS!"
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"thanks for enlightening me would never have guessed ! Nevertheless last season he was kicking most of the long kicks from the left side .
Re horo he had a mare , gave other team 18 uneccesary tackles, or are we now saying he had a good game ? An odd penalty in a tight game so what it happens !
If you were ranking players on that game he’d have been down the bottom along with huby and Pauli'"
Save your sarcasm for vasty he's the one that makes you look an idiot all the time, I was simply pointing out that Johnstone scores most of his tries in the corner making it more difficult for Finn.
Nobody is saying Horo had a good game, but taking all things into account, it wasn't as bad as some people would have you believe, as you say he was better than Huby and Pauli, as for the 18 unnecessary tackles he gave away are you sure about that or are you just making it up to suit your argument, but I'm sure that when he gets settled in and he has a good game you and some of your back slapping mates will be on here telling all whats daft enough to listen that you knew he'd come good in time.
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| Horo may not have had the best of games, but not the terrible one some people suggest.He took a lot of 'stick',ran the ball in well , more than once made three tackles in succession and made a
tremendous 'hit' on Bird.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Save your sarcasm for vasty he's the one that makes you look an idiot all the time, I was simply pointing out that Johnstone scores most of his tries in the corner making it more difficult for Finn.
Nobody is saying Horo had a good game, but taking all things into account, it wasn't as bad as some people would have you believe, as you say he was better than Huby and Pauli, as for the 18 unnecessary tackles he gave away are you sure about that or are you just making it up to suit your argument, but I'm sure that when he gets settled in and he has a good game you and some of your back slapping mates will be on here telling all whats daft enough to listen that you knew he'd come good in time.'"
Taking points in order - I did say the kicks were difficult .
Everyone on here says he gave 3 penalties 3 x 6 is 18,
Re mates yes I do have some ...,,
TBH not sure what point you are trying to make
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| I'm not sure what the issue is here.
Go to in my opinion had a bad game by his own standards. He didn't lose us the game and if we had lost it wouldn't be all down to him anyway.
But he still fell short, so why can't we say so.
I take offence to the comments made about Grix is because they were personal and wildly incorrect but this isn't like that.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Taking points in order - I did say the kicks were difficult .
Everyone on here says he gave 3 penalties 3 x 6 is 18,
Re mates yes I do have some ...,,
TBH not sure what point you are trying to make'"
Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"[uthanks for enlightening me would never have guessed ! [/uNevertheless last season he was kicking most of the long kicks from the left side .
Re horo he had a mare , gave other team 18 uneccesary tackles, or are we now saying he had a good game ? An odd penalty in a tight game so what it happens !'"
I wasn't aware I was trying to make a point, all I was guilty of was pointing out the obvious that it is more difficult to kick conversions from the touchline where wingers generally score their tries irrespective which side of the field there kicked from, you then came back with your child like sarcasm and then for whatever reason included Horo, I merely countered your opinion with one of my own, it would appear that it's you what's trying to make a meaningless point here matey.
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| Have a point here.
Haven't read much of this thread but think this is relevant.
2 work colleagues, a Leeds and a Cas fan, both said to me what a good entertaining game it was, end to end, both teams played well. And as neutrals they both enjoyed it.
So end of thread now please.
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