Try leeking for it!

Where in your last post?

I've thought long and hard about this. I feel like I've got a duty to help the club but I feel annoyed by the tone of the request. I feel like it will be my fault if the club isn't saved and I just dont think, as a fan, it's my fault. What a business should not do is blame the people who turn up each week and hand over the money, but ask themselves why some people aren't.

There is a wolf at the door. If the share issue is successful, the wolf will be fended off. But what happens when the next wolf comes knocking? I don't see it as saving the club but postponing it's demise.

I appreciate the club wants to keep things confidential, but you can't sell a proposal to people without being honest and open. If someone can persuade me that the money will get us through a season with anticipated gates of, say, 4,000 then maybe I'll reconsider, but at the moment, in the words of Duncan Bannatyne, I'm oot.

Sorry Phil I read that as looking on my phone, so somewhere there has been some kind of leak which makes our situation worse than it is? No idea? Anyone?

Quote ="inside man"Sorry Phil I read that as looking on my phone, so somewhere there has been some kind of leak which makes our situation worse than it is? No idea? Anyone?'" Maybe this taken from Yorkshire Post concerning the leeks: Furthermore, it is understood an arrangement made with HM Customs and Excise to pay further unpaid tax bills over a set period has been torn up after it saw the Crusaders enter administration last month and it seems likely Wakefield could be set for a similar result unless an amazing effort is completed in the next three weeks. Full article www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 6682780.jp

Quote ="inside man"Sorry Phil I read that as looking on my phone, so somewhere there has been some kind of leak which makes our situation worse than it is? No idea? Anyone?'" Maybe this taken from Yorkshire Post concerning the leeks: Furthermore, it is understood an arrangement made with HM Customs and Excise to pay further unpaid tax bills over a set period has been torn up after it saw the Crusaders enter administration last month and it seems likely Wakefield could be set for a similar result unless an amazing effort is completed in the next three weeks. Full article www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 6682780.jp

Sorry to disappoint aswell, I was not looking for any fault on Wakefield's behalf - just interested to know the circumstances.

What has it got to do with the Welsh

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How can HMRC do that if we have an agreement in place why can that be torn up because of Crusaders going into admin?

please read the various posts above where there's an explanation as to how your money is safe.

The answer is in a post above this one!

Yep just seen it!

Because they lost out on money owed from The Crusaders and are not taking their chances with any other clubs using this as an escape route?

Orlds gone bleeding mad.

Surely the question is though how do we owe the tax man still and how can the BOD have put us in a position where we have paid a bill of GBP 194k and Rodney Walker one of GBP 164k and yet we still owe money!

I obviously want the club to get through these difficult times, but it is difficult to be sympathetic to the BOD in the circumstances, as these problems could and should have been avoided

So the money is needed to pay yet another tax bill. What happens next year then when we haven't got a licence but still have the this years bill to pay plus the large historic debt round our necks? Administration with everyones £1000 meaning diddly, thats what happens.

Sorry but going into adminsration now and starting again is the only answer. We are not going to get a licence either way so keep the 500k for a fresh start and give the club a chance of making it back one day in the future. Taking the money now just means they'll be less investment around to reform the club at the end of the year when the inevitable happens.

It's got more to do with the way the RFL was completely in compliance with the decision to go into administration, as the Governing body the HMRC expects them to take a very very hard line against clubs who opt for Administration, it has to be the resort that comes way after the last resort and even then should be frowned upon.

The way the Crusaders and the RFL cahooted in order to somehow maintain a club in Wrexham has totaly P*$$£d off the HMRC and cost them a lot of money in the process, and they have withdrawn their good graces from ALL RFL member clubs.

That means that everyone will now face finding the money to pay off their TAX bills. Even well run clubs who have the money sometimes opt for a payment plan as it aids cash flow especially during the closed season, some clubs will just pay up because they can, some sugar daddies will just write a cheque but some other clubs will find it very hard and Wakefield in particular have been to the well once too often.

The RFL, in offering preferential treatment to the Crusaders have shafted a number of clubs but some more than others.

The money is safe if the offer fails. I want guarantees that the club is safe if it succeeds.

Clan, whilst I agree the preferential treatment is an annoyance, it still does not explain why we have yet more unpaid tax (presumably GBP 350k worth?). Clearly we have been operating beyond our means for far too long and as has been said the best thing to do is go into admin ourselves and reform the club

Even if it succeeds the new shareholder can assess the situation at the time and opt to recall the money if they think thats best. They can opt to leave the money where it is and wait for clarity on the situation or they can choose to use it for the purposes which they first chose to invest/donate it, ie saving the club.

Could it be we have finally touched on the puzzle as to why the money is needed that urgently, could'nt this have been explained at the start instead of certain people on here playing ducks and drakes with peoples emotions and having sheite loads of unneccessary pages of fans at each others throat, I hope you are proud of yourselves.

Well I know we wouldn't win but I would love to see the rfl dragged through court, they have all but ruined the game for a lot of people. They should not be allowing clubs preferential treatment. They are nothing short of a disgrace.

Didn't Batley's chairman go public recently accusing the RFL of selling out other clubs to save Crusaders after the RFL refused to register Batley players until they had paid off a £20k bill to HMRC ? I recall that the RFL had sent a letter to all clubs telling them to pay up immediately as HMRC had told them that following the Crusaders issue, and specifically the RFL's complicity in the matter, RL clubs were now seen as a bad risk by HMRC.

This is one of the big problems with the club and always has been - communication. If you look what we know today compared to the initial information after the shareholder meeting there is no comparison - it should not take 3 days to know what we do now - oh and alot of it is not from the club themselves

Chissit, It's not the place of the people on here to decide whether to share info about this, however it's now appeared in the Yorkshire Post so the cats out of the bag (Excuse the pun).

Apart from that a number of us have only found out about this in the last few hours....

Tru even though the HMRC were happy with Batley's payment plan the RFL told them they must pay up (so Cru could get some leighway) has the same happened here? Is the RFL risking the futures of X amount if clubs to see one saved?