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| Quote ="trin77"Is he not the accountant from the Glover/Elston debacle?'"
There has always been a big question mark over this. Is there some sort of guilt trip about what went on while those two silly sods were playing big time Charlie with the club?
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| Quote ="cocker"Mr. Carter lets get Noble in for the remaining matches….no need to sack Webster just tell Noble to ignore him. We need a figure-head in charge that the players can respect.'"
Noble is rubbish - but I accept still way better than Webster.
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| Webster out
We have been in sorry states before and been respectable this season pathetic.
Batley get beat by 4 against a full strength Widnes team. We lose by 50.
Every week we are a laughing stock
New coach now Carter enough is enough
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| There is nothing positive about the club at present, it's like nobody but the fans give a toss.
MC is way out of his depth not knowing anything about the game as are the coaching staff and sadly it might be the most expensive squad we have ever had in super league, but we don't have a team. We have a few individuals who put a shift in but the majority should question whether they are in the right career, because they exhibit none of the fundamental requirements of a rugby league player (heart, desire, work ethic and honesty)
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| Quote ="Theboyem"[iReason to carry on. I see an opportunity to reclaim some of the money I have put in over the last 3 years. Not all of it but some of it.[/i
The above is a quote from Carter on this very forum last July. The link is on the open letter thread. I am becoming more and more convinced that is the only reason he is here.'"
I know and that's pretty much what I said - you're taking him a bit literal IMHO but you could be right it's not like he's an open book.
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| I can't believe that the lights went out during the BBC after match analysis. It is just one embarrassment after another. I have a question how many people do we employ because I never appear to see or hear about them. Do we have a marketing team ?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"There is nothing positive about the club at present, it's like nobody but the fans give a toss.'"
Would you say a 3800 crowd with the majority from Leigh is a sign of fans giving a toss?
The Leigh figure I keep hearing is 2500 and I see no reason or evidence to argue against that. That leaves 1300 from Wakefield. Embarrassing.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"There is nothing positive about the club at present, it's like nobody but the fans give a toss.
MC is way out of his depth not knowing anything about the game as are the coaching staff and sadly it might be the most expensive squad we have ever had in super league, but we don't have a team. We have a few individuals who put a shift in but the majority should question whether they are in the right career, because they exhibit none of the fundamental requirements of a rugby league player (heart, desire, work ethic and honesty)'"
When Ted was kicked out and yes his time had come though IMHO he didn't deserve the personal stuff I said to certain posters on here who now keep a very low profile "be careful what you wish for".
Well two idiot chancres who I'm happy to say I spotted straight away and a glorified book keeper who I didn't it's gone pretty much to script.
Teds not coming back nor Steve Ferres or JK or Andy Kelly but it makes you realise that you don't realise what you had till it's gone. All those mentioned were flawed I know that but then who isn't - yet from 2000 to 2010 they kept us in SL and better still from 2004 to 2010 we were pretty competitive and hard to play with only the first few seasons as expected and 2006 where we were in any real trouble. I'm not rose tinting it we were never great but at least we competed and on the field at least earned the right to be in SL.
Seems a long time ago now.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Webster out
We have been in sorry states before and been respectable this season pathetic.
Batley get beat by 4 against a full strength Widnes team. We lose by 50.
Every week we are a laughing stock
New coach now Carter enough is enough'"
Fev giving Catalans an almighty run for their money as well.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Would you say a 3800 crowd with the majority from Leigh is a sign of fans giving a toss?
The Leigh figure I keep hearing is 2500 and I see no reason or evidence to argue against that. That leaves 1300 from Wakefield. Embarrassing.'"
We are lucky we got 1300 to pay to watch us after the garbage the team has served up for months. If we were in Leigh position we would have got much more people willing to watch us. I aren't going to criticise anyone who has given up because the team are not giving us anything to make us want to watch them and the club don't seem bothered about being an embarrassment
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| Why should MC throw more of his money in? He has said he doesn't have millions. He came in when we were in a pickle. I can't remember anyone else knocking the door down, then or since??
It's ok saying we managed to stay in SL under the previous regimes, but we were doing it on money we didn't have, hence we have been on the edge of going bust so many times.
The big mistake he has made for me is not getting rid of Webster a few weeks ago. Other than that, I don't see why he's copping the flack??!
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| Quote ="Pound 4 Wrighty"Why should MC throw more of his money in? He has said he doesn't have millions. He came in when we were in a pickle. I can't remember anyone else knocking the door down, then or since??'"
The answer is very simple in my mind, if he doesn't pay Webster off he will not get money back. The club will go down, be unable to afford a competitive team due to ground rent and low attendance. Before you know it we'll be in Championship One, evicted from our ground with no way back to Super League.
It is simple Mr Carter. Get rid of Webster and bring back some pride to this club. The fans can see it, why can't you!!!!!
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| Quote ="Pound 4 Wrighty"Why should MC throw more of his money in? He has said he doesn't have millions. He came in when we were in a pickle. I can't remember anyone else knocking the door down, then or since??
It's ok saying we managed to stay in SL under the previous regimes, but we were doing it on money we didn't have, hence we have been on the edge of going bust so many times.
The big mistake he has made for me is not getting rid of Webster a few weeks ago. Other than that, I don't see why he's copping the flack??!'"
Because unless I'm ill informed in which case I apologies he does have more money than you might think. True there is no reason why he should spend it on us in which case you have to ask what's the point in owning us?
For the record he was part of the Yorkshire Traction management buy out team that eventually was sold to Stagecoach for 30 million if I recall - no idea what he got from that but it wasn't chicken feed I suspect. However what is annoying is that as far as I'm aware no attempt has been made to capitalise the club i.e. sell shares etc which is surprising for a bloke who doesn't want to spend his own money - seems to want it both ways.
Anyway how does anyone know we are financially stable - when were the last set of accounts released?
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| Quote ="wildshot"The answer is very simple in my mind, if he doesn't pay Webster off he will not get money back. The club will go down, be unable to afford a competitive team due to ground rent and low attendance. Before you know it we'll be in Championship One, evicted from our ground with no way back to Super League.
It is simple Mr Carter. Get rid of Webster and bring back some pride to this club. The fans can see it, why can't you!!!!!'"
3 major mistakes by our Chairman. He kept onto his buddy Agar for too long the crowd drift had already started well before the Imbecile was sacked. Mistake number 2 was giving Imbecile mk 2 a 3 year deal, ffs what was that about. Nobody else was even interviewed, no doubt he is a great budddy too. Mistake number 3 is keeping holding of him for too long. Its way too late now the fans have gone for ever and club existence won't be far behind.
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| Quote ="deeHell"3 major mistakes by our Chairman. He kept onto his buddy Agar for too long the crowd drift had already started well before the Imbecile was sacked. Mistake number 2 was giving Imbecile mk 2 a 3 year deal, ffs what was that about. Nobody else was even interviewed, no doubt he is a great budddy too. Mistake number 3 is keeping holding of him for too long. Its way too late now the fans have gone for ever and club existence won't be far behind.'"
Just a note, Agar wasn't sacked he left of his own accord. Carter publicly stated he wouldn't have sacked him. A little bit of history repeating?
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Just a note, Agar wasn't sacked he left of his own accord. Carter publicly stated he wouldn't have sacked him. A little bit of history repeating?'"
And now he's coaching Warrington, by the way.
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| Quote ="darwoo11"I know Mr Carter was seen as some kind of a saviour on here but wasn't he the one who gave this non entity a 3 year contract?
Hardly smart business'" F ing idiotic but not the first time we've been in idot land..giving that other vacuous waste of space Agar a 3 yr contract. Honestly, I've had enough with this club. We are a magnet that attracts disease like a pile of shoosh attracts flies
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| Quote ="miscreant"And now he's coaching Warrington, by the way.'" Errrr no he isn't he's assistant and have you noticed some of their form?
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Would you say a 3800 crowd with the majority from Leigh is a sign of fans giving a toss?
The Leigh figure I keep hearing is 2500 and I see no reason or evidence to argue against that. That leaves 1300 from Wakefield. Embarrassing.'" And completely understandable
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| Quote ="deeHell"3 major mistakes by our Chairman. He kept onto his buddy Agar for too long the crowd drift had already started well before the Imbecile was sacked. Mistake number 2 was giving Imbecile mk 2 a 3 year deal, ffs what was that about. Nobody else was even interviewed, no doubt he is a great budddy too. Mistake number 3 is keeping holding of him for too long. Its way too late now the fans have gone for ever and club existence won't be far behind.'"
Mistake number four, believing people will come and watch this club without some sort of marketing campaign to generate their interest. Who but the 2000 or so regulars even know a game is on?
I said a while a ho Carter was the man to fight the fire and get the club on am even keel but once settled he needed another body who could sell the club. Sadly this has not happened.
We are in between a rock and a hard place though as from recent history there is no one else with sufficient wealth interested in keeping this club going. It's Carter or nothing IMO.
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| He's done what many others have done and held on to the club too long.
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| "He's done what many others have done and held on to the club too long."
Just who is he supposed to hand it onto ??
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| Quote ="cocker""He's done what many others have done and held on to the club too long."
Just who is he supposed to hand it onto ??'"
Have to agree, i am no fan of MC but there IS no one else at the moment
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| Quote ="miscreant"And now he's coaching Warrington, by the way.'"
He's only really an assistant actually but since he has gone there have you noticed that they are having there worst season in many years? Strange that.
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| Dear Mr Carter
It is almost 24 hours after the latest capitulation of the most expensive to assemble squad we have in SL, and since our coach proceeded to give a press conference which suggested he had little enthusiasm for the task of turning our fortunes around or any knowledge of what to do to achieve a decent performance let alone a win. So you may understand my frustration and amazement that as I type this message he is still in a job!!!
You are an Accountant by trade so you don't need me to tell you that the cost of getting shut is far less than what the lost revenue to the club will be for the remainder of this season and next year if he stays in position any longer.
It costs me 30 quid on top of my ST and everything else I pay into the club plus a 4 hour round trip to get to home games and at present I can't see any reason to justify continuing to fork out my money and time when the coach and (most of) the players can't be bothered and the club sits by and does nothing.
You made a mistake in giving Webster a 3 year deal, but please don't send the club to the brink of extinction by being too stubborn to admit it.
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