Yeah because of a vendetta by the coach. This is not a good coach if he doesn't let rugby do the talking. Mariano we cannot be bothad to develop because Agar is stubborn its stuff like this that makes me want to pull out of the 1873 scheme just to show them my annoyance of a young British 2nd rower been sent out in favour of a 3rd rate Aussie. This was Agar attitude at hull its not good. Hope frankie has a great career and sticks 2 fingers up at the club that couldnt be bothad with him!

Am a bothad though, yeah but no but yeah but no cos agars adiv int he and i know that cos frankie told me dint he!

I didn't make it to the game but Frankie seemed to be involved quite a bit on the highlights, granted its only the highlights but he bossed his way to the try line and set up 1 or 2 with line breaks and strength. The real reasons why he's been shipped out may never be known, as with Ellis, but I sure hope he's back at WTW at some point replacing the lump that is Mellars.

Awful by the club get ready for the amazing Vince Mellars and the indispensible washbrook and sykes cannot wait! I was going to go to widnes away but this has peeved me off i cant be bothad wasting my money now. A player who had sumet different in his locker isnt a yes man henchman so hes gone. Lhillycrop another huge potential. WASTE SIDE

Thanks for your honesty just hope he doesn't take him back when Powell gets him going like he did Ellis and then let him go next season

Hey its just my opinion, i can't say if that should be classed has "honest" mate.

we have let better go in the past Jay Pitts for one his face did not fit and if thats the case with Agar you have no chance look at Ellis last year
We have a decent squad we are not that far away but I have never ratted Agar as a coach despite the run last season the penny will drop with Glover sooner or latter

Point taken as I say just hope we keep him if he fits in with the team

Powell has done nothing regarding Ellis. I presume 'going' means playing well.

Ellis was already playing well with us

Have 'they' waited until the CC draw to bury this story.

Not sure what to think about this one.
I'm not party to the training ground stories and while I have been impressed since day one with Frankie there does appear to be something not quite right in his game.
All coaches have favourites so that's nothing new and I shan't be chucking myself under a bus anytime soon as far as anger is concerned over what is at the end of a day only a loan.
I'd like to think there is a path back for Frankie but if its a payoff for signing up Anakin, Shulver, Maskill, Kay etc i can easily live with it.

People shouldn't write Agar off unless they know all the facts. At the end of the day he's only on loan and could return to play the rest of the season, lets just wait and see!

I wish

Just trying to keep it calm.

Mariano is a good second row but consistency seemed to be his downfall this season whether it is a fitness issue or attitude only the coaching staff know. If we get another glut of injuries I think Mariano will be recalled and prove a few on this forum wrong.

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It may just be the wake up call he needs because on form he is a quality super league player with size, speed and strong running out wide can be devastating. Good luck at Fev!



Hope Molloy's fitness holds up if he gets the call probably on less than Frankie so bit of cost cutting business for fringe players this season.

4TH bottom behind Widnes play him not LOAN him! We may see a improvement! Agar has friends and favourites. Stubborn. To use the word gaining experience when we loan him out is shocking its insulting everyones intelligence. Hope another SL club get him eventually and we can see why Agar needs to work on his personal skills like the legend that is JK!

As has been posted in another thread. The rumour why Frankie isn't getting as much game time as expected is because he is 'cutting corners'. This may have been acceptable under JK, when we struggling for players. Now the squad has moved on. Frankie is probably one of those players who has bags of talent, but won't apply himself. Very frustrating for anybody to watch, more so his coach. If he is not prepared to put the same amount of effort in as everyone else, he shouldn't be picked. Think it's called discipline. Possibly why Annakin didn't get as much of a go last year as he should have done. He has trained well in pre season, playing by the club rules and is reaping the rewards.

Thought this would get a few posts.
I trust Agar's judgement.

It's up to Frankie to make himself something. Others are taking his place with hard work.

Whatever the real reason is, I don't think his face fits with Agar. Fev have got themselves a good forward.

frankie is a decent player for a lower level team, and has the ability, and physical atributes to be a very good player...


something is missing... brain or heart.... or maybe courage?


dont think he will find it on loan at Fetherstone... as he hasn't found it in his (ample) opportunity in the first grade at Trinity.

Always been impressed with Mariano whenever I've seen him play, big, strong & some good pace for a forward, also knows his way to the try line. Hope we go in for him if he's made available at the end of the season.

Ample opportunity do you go to the games hes played very well everytime hes been in a trinity shirt better than some of the tripe this year, but yet doesn't get a look in. Beyond a joke but we are doing well 4th from bottom. Cant beat salford at home , team of superstars. Who needs a excellent young fast British forward.

And if you'd bothered to turn up on Saturday you would have seen that we now have that in Molloy. Your "Superstar" had a chance to shine against a League 3 team on Saturday and aside from his try (which he took very well) and another couple of runs he was blowing out of his a*se for most of the game. Molloy did more work than Frankie did and looks to be glad of an opportunity to play. Frankie meanwhile has allegedly been "cutting corners" in training and therefore doesn't deserve the opprtunity of 1st team rugby.

I think a fit and in-form Mariano was\is\will be a fantastic player for any team, but at the minute he doesn't seem able or willing to get to that level for whatever reason and so can't get in the team. When he has got in the team he's done some good stuff but not enough to justify picking him ahead of Kirmond, Lauitiiti or Annakin and with 2 starting 2nd rowers and one on the bench where does he fit????
I hope he sees this as a chance to get some much needed game time and as a wake up call and that he comes back stronger and willing to fight for his place, but if not then so be it.

This just might be the making of him if he gets regular game time who knows.
I do have to admit I find it a bit odd when Mellars gets in ahead of him.

Thats your opinion not mine however, as posted you didnt go on Saturday, you beat the drum about talent well with all the replacements in the team saturday your superstar didnt put up a super show in fact he was shadowed by many of the youg lads, its the right move for him to show he can get some form at Fev and it frees a potential place in the first team squad to give a developing player a go as oposed to a mid 20,s player who should be at his peak but clearly is a bus ride off given the flashes he has shown. Hes not consisent enogh isnt Frankie thats why there has not been a queue to sign him.