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| Quote ="TRB"Seriously - no double standards here! Very few people put in when the old management at Wakefield put out the call and therefore even fewer are likely to do so for a fellow club.
Now if you want people to put into a Supporters Trust fund with the aim of taking part or full ownership of the club, that's another thing altogether.....
Heed the warning - by putting money into the pledge all you are doing is preserving the management who cannot raise funds themselves because the bank and business have lost confidence in them - they have no where else to turn. Don't do it!'"
Listen to TRB & Sandal, these gents speak with both heart and experience! They had the chance to do the same but they and the vast majority of other passionate Wakefield supporters realised, as I hope Bulls fans will, that their money was ultimately not going to change the future of the club under the current management, it was just prolonging the inevitable!
I have already said on the Leeds board that I will put some money into Bullbuilder, if they wish to extend their remit or into a new Supporters trust set up with the aim of endeavouring to preserve the future of the club for the fans.
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| It's good money after bad. Don't part with a penny under the current management.
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| Quote ="tamargrace"after the gloating from "big club" bulls fans when we were in trouble..no chance!'"
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| Giving the Bradford BoD a million quid is folly; set up a vehicle that allows the money to be held in escrow, so it can be used to fund the inevitable phoenix company that will rise from administration. You might get more help from the RL community that way - as it stands, it's not for me - I'm out.
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| Let's be honest - with 10k discounted season ticket holders, they should have enough of their own with a ton to spare who can bail them out.
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| Quote ="inside man"Mystic Eddie can put mine in for me.'"
About the only bit of pleasure I get from this horrible situation is this.
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| Only way you will get outsiders to donate is have a complete clear out of your board of useless directors .I myself won't due to one lousy Bulls fans comment last season at Odsal,oh I wish I could meet him now.
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Hi All
I have listed on Ebay a Manly sea eagles signed rugby ball.
The ball is signed by 2 Current Australia international players (Daly Cherry-Evans, Tony Williams)
All proceeds will go to 'SAVE THE BRADFORD BULLS'
Please see link below
Thanks
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manly-Sea-Eag ... 3a727c58c2
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Hi All
I have listed on Ebay a Manly sea eagles signed rugby ball.
The ball is signed by 2 Current Australia international players (Daly Cherry-Evans, Tony Williams)
All proceeds will go to 'SAVE THE BRADFORD BULLS'
Please see link below
Thanks
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manly-Sea-Eag ... 3a727c58c2
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| Quote ="inside man"Mystic Eddie can put mine in for me.'"
And mine too
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| Tapping up Solomona and paying his legal costs when he sued us, trying to prize Ellis away, trying to sign Walshaw last year, tapping up Semi all reasons why I would not give your directors a single cent. Add to that the arrogant way Bulls staff approach young players at amateur clubs in the Wakefield service area, explaining to the young lads that signing for Wakefield is a waste of time and that they should sign for a big club like Bradford, and then throwing silly money at 16 year olds, leaves me feeling no sympathy for Bradfords directors. Time for the Bradford supporters trust to step up to the plate.
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Quote ="verdeyen01"Hi All
I have listed on Ebay a Manly sea eagles signed rugby ball.
The ball is signed by 2 Current Australia international players (Daly Cherry-Evans, Tony Williams)
All proceeds will go to 'SAVE THE BRADFORD BULLS'
Please see link below
Thanks
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manly-Sea-Eag ... 3a727c58c2'"
Did you read the responses on this thread before posting????
Unless the money is going to Bullbuilder then you will find no bidders here!
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Quote ="verdeyen01"Hi All
I have listed on Ebay a Manly sea eagles signed rugby ball.
The ball is signed by 2 Current Australia international players (Daly Cherry-Evans, Tony Williams)
All proceeds will go to 'SAVE THE BRADFORD BULLS'
Please see link below
Thanks
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manly-Sea-Eag ... 3a727c58c2'"
Did you read the responses on this thread before posting????
Unless the money is going to Bullbuilder then you will find no bidders here!
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Tapping up Solomona and paying his legal costs when he sued us, trying to prize Ellis away, trying to sign Walshaw last year, tapping up Semi all reasons why I would not give your directors a single cent. Add to that the arrogant way Bulls staff approach young players at amateur clubs in the Wakefield service area, explaining to the young lads that signing for Wakefield is a waste of time and that they should sign for a big club like Bradford, and then throwing silly money at 16 year olds, leaves me feeling no sympathy for Bradfords directors. Time for the Bradford supporters trust to step up to the plate.'"
No at the moment because of the first highlighted bit but its a maybe, if the second bit were to happen!
Having said that, if i were to take offense at all clubs who work in a similar way with the youngsters i wouldnt see an away game all season! Its more the fact they have continued to do this during the last few months (even weeks) while pretty much knowing that this whole mess was just around the corner.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Did you read the responses on this thread before posting????
Unless the money is going to Bullbuilder then you will find no bidders here!'"
I can forward to Bullbuilder via Paypal - I will ask the winning bidder what method they would prefer.
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| Quote ="Cleck Bulls"please pledge to the bulls, i know its not your club but you all know what we are going through. please pledge thank you.'"
I suspect you’re pledging to the Bulls board more than anything. I don't see how you could give any money up for no return, how do you know it doesn't just get spend on director loans or the administrator will eventually gobble it up. This excellent post from a prominent Hornets fan "hornetto" on totalrl says a lot about these situations.
Quote Anyone considering chucking their £100 into the black hole, hold back a bit. Do you have a Supporters' Association? It's be better for everyone to pay their £100 quid to them on the proviso that the association is given full details of the turnround plan (or otherwise) before any payment is made.
If the worst should happen, at least the body of supporters will have a war-chest for re-booting the club if that's required.
When this happened to us, I saw fans at the 'crisis meeting' writing cheques for £1000. A fortnight later, the club was gone and so was their money, swallowed as the administrator liquidated every penny to pay off creditors at a penny in the pound.
Your Supporters Association needs to try and get hold of the season ticket-holders' database. If the Bulls does have 10,000 season ticket holders, assume that half can't/won't pay (kids, families who have four tickets, those for whom £100 is two weeks' money) and half of the remainder won't stick around to watch a team in CC1 -so you've realistically got 2,500 loyalists to raise funds from.
The only thing worse than watching your club go under is watching it go under with tens of thousands of your pounds in its coffers.
And once these things start to roll,. they move very quickly. A lot can happen in two weeks (we went from 'crisis meeting' to liquidation in 20 days) -so don't hang around. Get as many supporters as you can in a school hall somewhere asap and work out a fans-plan. You may be the best hope they have.
Good luck. '"
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| I think we should try to help a fellow super league club in their hour of need just as the nice folk at farttown did to us with offering the rumoured 15k for Dale Ferguson.
We should offer a small fee for the permanent services of a couple of the following:
Sykes (Utility value and kicker)
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| Quote ="Jambon"I think we should try to help a fellow super league club in their hour of need just as the nice folk at farttown did to us with offering the rumoured 15k for Dale Ferguson.
We should offer a small fee for the permanent services of a couple of the following:
Sykes (Utility value and kicker)
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Kopczak
Scrutton
Burgess'"
They Sound good to me....
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| I won't get involved in the exercise of picking at their bones, given how vocal I was about Huddersfield doing the same to us last year.
I really can't see any big name players going into a fire sale at this stage anyhow - if they do flog anyone, it will be pre-administration and to the monied clubs who can afford to buy out their contracts, rather than wait for a bunfight when they become free agents.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Tapping up Solomona and paying his legal costs when he sued us, trying to prize Ellis away, trying to sign Walshaw last year, tapping up Semi all reasons why I would not give your directors a single cent. Add to that the arrogant way Bulls staff approach young players at amateur clubs in the Wakefield service area, explaining to the young lads that signing for Wakefield is a waste of time and that they should sign for a big club like Bradford, and then throwing silly money at 16 year olds, leaves me feeling no sympathy for Bradfords directors. Time for the Bradford supporters trust to step up to the plate.'"
Not to mention Wakefield RUFC
The best thing the Bulls could do long term is to enter administration the sooner the better then move forward from there without the high earners and a new board. Yes they may struggle on the field for a couple of seasons but hopefully be in a decent position to win a new licence in 2 years time
I also think it is time for the axe to fall at RL HQ starting with Mr Lewis
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| Quote ="bren2k"I won't get involved in the exercise of picking at their bones, given how vocal I was about Huddersfield doing the same to us last year.
I really can't see any big name players going into a fire sale at this stage anyhow - if they do flog anyone, it will be pre-administration and to the monied clubs who can afford to buy out their contracts, rather than wait for a bunfight when they become free agents.'"
Exactly, lets try and show at least a modicum of class here..... Its been done to us more than once and its clearly not nice, and 2 wrongs dont make a right.
Admin and phoenix club rising from the ashes is the result we should all want - anybody licking their lips at the thought of the Bulls hitting the snooze button completely should consider the 7k crowd they contribute towards for us and the PR damage it would do to the sport in general to have one of the former "big 4" out of business.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Exactly, lets try and show at least a modicum of class here..... Its been done to us more than once and its clearly not nice, and 2 wrongs dont make a right.
Admin and phoenix club rising from the ashes is the result we should all want - anybody licking their lips at the thought of the Bulls hitting the snooze button completely should consider the 7k crowd they contribute towards for us and the PR damage it would do to the sport in general to have one of the former "big 4" out of business.'"
I agree that it is sad news about Bradford and we should refrain from any kind of "told you so" or any kind of gloating comments (especially given our recent history) BUT....
I agree it's not nice having the other teams picking at your carcass, but ATEOTD the carcass is there to be picked and if we don't, then someone else will. No point allowing the rest of SL to pick up some cheap, quality players while we stand in the background polishing our halo. Get into em I say, it's going tits up anyway, we might as well benefit from it while we can.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I agree that it is sad news about Bradford and we should refrain from any kind of "told you so" or any kind of gloating comments (especially given our recent history) BUT....
I agree it's not nice having the other teams picking at your carcass, but ATEOTD the carcass is there to be picked and if we don't, then someone else will. No point allowing the rest of SL to pick up some cheap, quality players while we stand in the background polishing our halo. Get into em I say, it's going tits up anyway, we might as well benefit from it while we can.'"
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Exactly, lets try and show at least a modicum of class here..... Its been done to us more than once and its clearly not nice, and 2 wrongs dont make a right.
Admin and phoenix club rising from the ashes is the result we should all want - anybody licking their lips at the thought of the Bulls hitting the snooze button completely should consider the=#0000FF 7k crowd they contribute towards for us and the PR damage it would do to the sport in general to have one of the former "big 4" out of business.'"
I would have liked more of the 7,000 crowd to turn up to the Rapids solicitors stadium.. sorry you do and say what you think and I will, and that is to get in there if the players as to be sold, if not other teams will..??
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| Quote ="bren2k"I won't get involved in the exercise of picking at their bones, given how vocal I was about Huddersfield doing the same to us last year.
I really can't see any big name players going into a fire sale at this stage anyhow - if they do flog anyone, it will be pre-administration and to the monied clubs who can afford to buy out their contracts, rather than wait for a bunfight when they become free agents.'"
It was unpleasant when the vultures were picking over our bones but, the one sure thing is, their best players will be heading for the exit and if we can improve our squad, then we should do.
Yin and Yang,
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