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| Quote ="mutley cat"do you think im just stating figures off the top of my head or do you think i have researched my findings.
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The former for me, your sums dont add up
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| come on Adam
NGFC and his ten mates (Might of been 20 but he was wearing shoes)
are all medium and none off them all massive wakey fans brought shirts until the season kicked off
Phone the club shop you may be surprised , i must warn you though make your words soft and sweet cos you might end up eating them
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| Quote ="Gahan"The former for me, your sums dont add up
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i want him to do some bloody research
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| Quote ="mutley cat"come on Adam
NGFC and his ten mates (Might of been 20 but he was wearing shoes)
are all medium and none off them all massive wakey fans brought shirts until the season kicked off
Phone the club shop you may be surprised , i must warn you though make your words soft and sweet cos you might end up eating them'"
What don't you understand about people needing to save up for tops etc? Not every one can afford them you know.
And the club would prob tell me nowt any way so not wasting my money.
But it still is POOR. But in some peoples eyes the club can do no wrong.
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| Quote ="mutley cat"i want him to do some bloody research'"
You said how much it would cost, so you did the research and I told you how much profit (roughly) they would make on each top
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| Quote ="mutley cat"i want him to do some bloody research'"
Obviously the more you buy the cheaper they become to your club but they do have a point, you would still make a profit on buying another 50/100 in, granted not as high as buying a 1000 in but nonetheless a profit
I'll ring them, do they do a slimline shirt for my waif like figure
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| Quote ="adam9641"What don't you understand about people needing to save up for tops etc? Not every one can afford them you know.
And the club would prob tell me nowt any way so not wasting my money.
But it still is POOR. But in some peoples eyes the club can do no wrong.'"
here's the secret the club as seen an unprecedented demand for the medium top it was a case of @@@@ or bust either have tops before other clubs and before Christmas which the club succeeded in doing and making do with the orders we got .
If you are not prepared to find out the facts Adam then don't be surprised if you get jumped on from a great height by someone who as.
and yes at times the club as made some shocking moves and decisions but i wont stand by knowing the facts and have people spouting on unfounded allegations or who think this is jackanory .
The club will order more for next year based on sales from this year , the clubs order this year was based on last year that's how to run a business prudently and successful and if thei youth can not fathom that out then my beloved country is f@@@@d
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| Quote ="mutley cat"here's the secret the club as seen an unprecedented demand for the medium top it was a case of @@@@ or bust either have tops before other clubs and before Christmas which the club succeeded in doing and making do with the orders we got .
If you are not prepared to find out the facts Adam then don't be surprised if you get jumped on from a great height by someone who as.
and yes at times the club as made some shocking moves and decisions but i wont stand by knowing the facts and have people spouting on unfounded allegations or who think this is jackanory .
The club will order more for next year based on sales from this year , the clubs order this year was based on last year that's how to run a business prudently and successful and if their youth can not fathom that out then my beloved country is f@@@@d'"
Why do you feel the need to swear?
What facts are you talking about?
And next season is too late believe it or not.
It don't matter when you get tops in you should not run out so earl on in a season.
And you can not buy a top till you can afford one. I am lucky enough to afford one but not everyone can.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Why do you feel the need to swear?
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What facts are you talking about?
=redthe ones i have been ar@ed to find out
And next season is too late believe it or not
=redyes it is to sell the other shirts that we dont get rid of
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| You posted the cost of them, I replied to it with the information you put on there
Well when you start to swear in a debate you lose it.
The club need to try and keep the fans happy, and as I have said I believe they would sell the majority of the tops they would buy in.
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| Quote ="adam9641"
The club need to try and keep the fans happy, and as I have said I believe they would sell the majority of the tops they would buy in.'"
Providing there isnt a minimum order required
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| Quote ="mutley cat" the deal will be on a large shipment say if we just ordered 75 how much do you think the club pays for them ? ill give you a clue its over 2K
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Quote ="adam9641"So your saying the club pay £26 (roughly) for each top.
They sell them for what, £45-£50 is it this season? So that is just under a 50% profit on each they would only need to sell 38 to make a good profit, which I think would easily happen.
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| Quote ="Gahan"Providing there isnt a minimum order required
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Of course, but I still think the club would be able to shift the majority of them. The club would not know unless they bought some in.
If we go on another good cup run and get play offs, those with no tops or last seasons top will want the new top to wear to the big games. The same happend last season.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Of course, but I still think the club would be able to shift the majority of them. The club would not know unless they bought some in.'"
What if the minimum order is, say 500
Quote ="adam9641"If we go on another good cup run and get play offs, those with no tops or last seasons top will want the new top to wear to the big games. The same happend last season.'"
As an outsider looking in, that cant be the case since Chris says you bought so many in on the basis of last years sales, so if that was the case you wouldnt have sold out since you've obviously budgeted for a certain figure
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| I would find it hard to believe that you would have to place an order of at least 500.
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| Quote ="Gahan"
As an outsider looking in, that cant be the case since Chris says you bought so many in on the basis of last years sales, so if that was the case you wouldnt have sold out since you've obviously budgeted for a certain figure'"
Well a fair few of new grounds mates have missed out and I am sure a fair few others will have.
The fans that bought them to the back end of last season may be waiting to see how well we do to buy a top, like they did last season. So they get use out of the top they paid for last year.
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| Quote ="adam9641"I would find it hard to believe that you would have to place an order of at least 500.'"
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| Quote ="adam9641"I would find it hard to believe that you would have to place an order of at least 500.'"
Hence i said, lets say
You aint dealing with Freds printers down the road here*
There is a lot to getting a shirt sorted out from start to finish and they aint gonna set everything up just for a run of a 100 or so
*Apologies to anyone called Fred who owns a printers on here
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| Quote ="adam9641"Well a fair few of new grounds mates have missed out and I am sure a fair few others will have.'"
As stated earlier tough, your not fast then your last and NGBC has no way in this world got ten mates
Quote ="adam9641"The fans that bought them to the back end of last season may be waiting to see how well we do to buy a top'"
Is that bit for real, are you suggesting if you started the season badly then people wouldn't buy your shirts
I cant believe im defending your club, im off for a lay down
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| Quote ="Gahan"As stated earlier tough, your not fast then your last and NGBC has no way in this world got ten mates
Is that bit for real, are you suggesting if you started the season badly then people wouldn't buy your shirts
I cant believe im defending your club, im off for a lay down
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So why did people not buy them last season?
There is proof that people were buying them when we went on the good cup run, A fair few people I stand with at the ground went an bought the tops to wear just for the semi.
I don't know why it takes a good run in cup to buy a top, but thats what happend.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Well a fair few of new grounds mates have missed out and I am sure a fair few others will have.
=red[uThe fans that bought them to the back end of last season may be waiting to see how well we do[/u to buy a top, like they did last season. So they get use out of the top they paid for last year.'"
Hallelujah , Bingo , the jackpot
if we don't do very well they wont buy , this is why the club wont stock .
if anything we should be overjoyed that the success of last year as put the club in this position .
also mediums are available but just not at the club , i would guess its more a tool to criticize the club than any thin else. if he wants a top that bad he would go to the mill and get one . even online you can buy one so whats the problem.
NGFC can get a top , the club has no financial risk and sports direct or the mill or the on line ebay store gets another happy customer .
if they were that hard to find i would have mine for sale at 100quid
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| Quote ="mutley cat"Hallelujah , Bingo , the jackpot
if we don't do very well they wont buy , this is why the club wont stock .
if anything we should be overjoyed that the success of last year as put the club in this position .
also mediums are available but just not at the club , i would guess its more a tool to criticize the club than any thin else. if he wants a top that bad he would go to the mill and get one . even online you can buy one so whats the problem.
NGFC can get a top , the club has no financial risk and sports direct or the mill or the on line ebay store gets another happy customer .
if they were that hard to find i would have mine for sale at 100quid
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So if we get top 8 this year, which I am certain we will and people go to the club shop wanting to buy a top and don't have them, it's still the same problem.
The point is it is poor of the club not having any medium shirts in stock, but there is jack all we can do about it.
He may not know about this mill place, first I have heard of it.
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| further more on this topic it as taken years for WTWC to get the tops into the high street , this is good for the club on so many different levels but they will stop if the source of selling is stripped away from them . If they all sell out then they will all order more next year and perhaps start stocking other WTWC membrabelia you do realize that we get a cut or benefit in other ways.
any way back on topic ............
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| Quote ="adam9641"So why did people not buy them last season?'"
How the hell do i know, do they find them repulsive like i do , were they too pricey? Maybe some of your fans just buy one every 2nd year
Quote ="adam9641"There is proof that people were buying them when we went on the good cup run, A fair few people I stand with at the ground went an bought the tops to wear just for the semi.
I don't know why it takes a good run in cup to buy a top, but thats what happend.'"
Right lets say you sold 1000 before your cup run then sold another 1000 during your cup run, so thats 2000, i'll educate a guess that your club ordered between 10 and 25% on top of that this year to accommodate for any new interest due to your cup run.
So you order 2500 this time, you sell them out, what else do you expect your marketing department to do? Pick a number out of thin air and guess how much demand you would have had this year bearing in mind they probably had to order them months ago to get them in time for Xmas.
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a) Order 2500 and maximise your profit
b) Order 3000 and probably have 2/300 left to flog off for a tenner at the end of the season making it a loss leader?
Answers on a postcard to Mystic Meg
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| Quote ="mutley cat"further more on this topic it as taken years for WTWC to get the tops into the high street , this is good for the club on so many different levels but they will stop if the source of selling is stripped away from them . If they all sell out then they will all order more next year and perhaps start stocking other WTWC membrabelia you do realize that we get a cut or benefit in other ways.
any way back on topic ............'" so is there loads of xxxl xxl xl and large left in the shop. do the club think were all fatties
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