just had another look on wccg site, i am now certain these people are monitoring your page on here, not only as i said earlier have they removed the new comments and the video but now one of the people on the petition has removed has his name from it.

For the record - the guy who posted the video was a Paul Williams. This is no secret as his name came up on the video at the end.



Hello Paul!

They tried to with the bats at Thornes Park.

Ok if there's any bats they can live

you have every right to feel paranoid as yes it will be monitored at least you have control of this website but there's is already starting to look foolish even with the replies, if any one replies with a case to answer it needs duplicating on here if answered as they miht not put the same reply on or even doctor it to suit

and how do you prove its from a Wakefield Trinity Wildcat supporter

I see all posts have been removed

Just as you are making issue of the industrial elements as you believe job creation is a positive spin, when really all your bothered about is the stadium, yet you know you cant have one without the other.

I have said before that the biggest hurdle you have to overcome is from opposition from other areas who will challenge your developers right to use greenbelt, when everybody else has to tow the line and find suitable sites for development. At the end of the day the developers see the "community" stadium as a way of sweetening the planning process. If the developers were confident of getting planning permission they would not give a flying fig about the Wildcats.

So TRB is correct in that Stanley man is not worth appeasing, as he will be small fish compared to the real opposition to this development. ( Leeds Met , Other businesses, landlords ).

I have a duty to the group I serve to support the stadium, but I also have a personal opinion and I am of the opinion that the development as a whole is a valid proposal for this site as there are more benefits overall than the one we are campaigning for. You are correct that I would take little active interest in it were it not for the stadium, but the reality is that there is a stadium riding on this - and as such it has got my attention.

For the record, I have not campaigned for or against any of the developemts around me - at Paragon or at J41..

Simple question Rugbyball.

Do you support the proposals?

I notice that one of the signatures on the petition has been put down as "Richard Wright of Castleford"!!!

6 names signed one of them obviously fake. 15000+ for the development surely its a no contest

Actually I would support any proposal that benefits any rugby league team, as I love the game. I guess you are cynical to my intentions due to the cautious nature of my posts which is fair enough. I trying to make the point that if people like TRB and swag want to influence the planning process then it is my belief that more subtle methods are required as at the moment everything comes across as being selfish, focusing on things such as job creation etc, when openly admitting you have never campaigned for this in any other circumstances just looks shallow.

My biggest problem with this development lies with the developer using the wildcats as the PR front for a speculative planning app on greenbelt land and the club just going along with it as they have no other viable option.

I can fully understand why fans want to see all the positives and believe the hype, as I said earlier I would love to see a state or the art Rugby facility in Wakefield, I just feel more caution should be applied in how we back it.

To sum up I guess what Im saying is the more people shout look over here, the more people will look!

What is selfish about wanting to bring jobs to the area? If i was out of work living near the development and i campaigned to get the jobs that would be selfish.

Are you for real? I'm sorry, but if your arguement for me being selfish is using the fact that there are jobs up for grabs, then I cannot agree.

The fact that I have not campaigned does not mean that I have not formed opinions, nor that I either agreed nor disagreed with them strongly enough, or it could be that I just thought that it was not my business to - that cannot be said of this development as the potential benefit to Wakefield is massive and it completes the mission statement that we produced 5 years ago.

I am true to what I believe - and I believe that this is a fantastic proposal!

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rugbyball wrote:Are they getting their information from the same planning regs that say their should be no problem building industrial units on greenbelt?

Games up for our Mr Rugbyball!



Seems he tried to get rid of the evidence - but wasn't quite quick enough!



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Lol - exposed

I am not saying their is anything wrong with being selfish in wanting the best for your club. what Im saying is it may be more harmful than good campaigning under banners that you have no real conviction for. Basically why not stick to telling people why having a new stadium for the wildcats would be good for the wildcats as that is your priority. Why should anybody take notice on any other aspect when you clearly have a vested interest.



I take it we disagree and It is regretful if I have offended you in any way, I actually believe in your aim of getting a stadium for you club, I just feel your methods may be self defeating.

It would be interesting to know what you opinion is of the other points I have made are, such as the club being used as a sweetener in the planning process for the developer, or the real opposition the project faces.

And as for the game being up, not at all, I will freely admit I removed the post after a someone else backed up your point its called being wrong, something I am not afraid to admit! the skit at you still stands that you seem willing to provide the pitfalls on other peoples plans, yet bound on in the face of the obvious flaws in you own, using anything and anyone as pawn's in you game.

exposed as what? ( cue childish remarks) some one who disagreed with a post, saw he was wrong so removed the post!!! Yep thats me exposed then..

Doesn’t everyone have a vested interest, whether for or against? The stadium is the main priority for most of us on here, that doesn’t stop us from recognising the benefits the number of jobs this scheme will bring to the area.



I fail to see how encouraging people to write into the local rag in support of the new development is self-defeating. There will be many letters from people opposing the development, you can be sure of that.

With respect to your other concerns, I think the project has been discussed with the neighbouring authority and the response was very positive. This development would open up the possibilities of the other side of the M62 being developed bringing further jobs to the area. Most motorway junctions have seen some development, have they all had opposition to their construction? Given that they are in existence then the opposition failed to put the spanner in the works for those developments.

Who and why was my post removed?

OK,Lets play your game.

Leeds Met -- non starter.

Other businesses --- name them.

Landlords 1 -- Will all support as will bring extra trade to the pub.
Landlords 2.-- Didnt know there were that many properties round there,that were let out
Landlords 3.-- As in landowners? Im sure if this development gets the go ahead,any other local landlords will be rubbing their hands as they will see the possibilities that exist for their land.

Know ,you tell us why the three categories you name will have any decent reasons to oppose the proposals.

Not me this time

can't find any removed posts in the "trash can" a mystery.

Make your mind up - one minute you're luaghing at us, the next you're suggesting that you support us.



There are no 'Pawns' in any 'game' - merely a desire to be part of something good for Wakefield.

Only one for Baz, and that was about the new Fev stadium on the Cas board!

Please contact the mods directly by PM if you have a query about posts being removed - that applies in general to everyone. Ta.

Back to the proposals for the new Wakey stadium...

No, exposed as someone who comes on here trying to come over as though you are interested in having some debate about the development, then going on the Cas board and taking on yet another persona. It's a simple matter of credibility and you are running low.

But for my 2 penneth on the matter, I agree that everyone on here will have the Stadium as the main focus for the support campaign and in fairness many wouldn't give a rats booty whether the development went ahead or not, if the stadium wasn't part of the scheme. However, seeing as though it is, then there is nothing wrong with getting behind the scheme and highlighting the other benefits.