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| The thing that worries me is that I actually believe we played the best we could today. We tackled quite well all things considered. I think players like Miller are just trying too hard to make something happen.
It is obvious that others are just becoming frustrated with our performances including Westermen, Fifita and today Arona which leads to them trying too much.
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| I have said before are we a 100% coached team, I don't think we are. Our success seems to come from off the cuff rugby.
I'm of the opinion we have plenty of effort without the gile to open defences up.
I suppose you could take Linos contribution a pluss at least he ran with the ball on a couple of occasions.
Changes for our next game will have to be made because of injury problems.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The thing that worries me is that I actually believe we played the best we could today. We tackled quite well all things considered. I think players like Miller are just trying too hard to make something happen.
It is obvious that others are just becoming frustrated with our performances including Westermen, Fifita and today Arona which leads to them trying too much.'"
I would agree if you had said the best we can play under Chester.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I have said before are we a 100% coached team, I don't think we are. Our success seems to come from off the cuff rugby.
I'm of the opinion we have plenty of effort without the gile to open defences up.
I suppose you could take Linos contribution a pluss at least he ran with the ball on a couple of occasions.
Changes for our next game will have to be made because of injury problems.'"
You hit the nail on the head old boy, everything good we do comes from off the cuff play.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I would agree if you had said the best we can play under Chester.'"
That is what I meant but I have said many times that Chester had taken the club as far as he could, actually a season ago.
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| At the end of the day we got beat by a very professional Catalan performance. It was a well balanced first half and we could have easily gone in at half time with a lead if the Pitts try was given and Bill went himself in the corner. Second half we gifted them field position with unforced errors and dumb penalties. You can’t compete without the ball unfortunately. Westerman head and shoulders our best player today.
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| Well that's the CC for another season.
Just win enough to stay up.
How depressing its becoming.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Well that's the CC for another season.
Just win enough to stay up.
How depressing its becoming.'"
Well i did'nt fancy our chances against Swinton anyway.
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| Effort was good, the amount of defence we got through was impressive. Westerman stood out as our best by some distance. Thats where the positives end for me. Our only real creativity comes from individual play, nothing ever seems to come from the training ground. Out of the cup and nowhere near being a play off team. Another year where the only thing keeping us interested is looking downwards. It has become very tiresome.
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| Think it could be a year were we are looking up ,as they will be no team below us
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| Quote ="alegend"Think it could be a year were we are looking up ,as they will be no team below us'"
I think Leigh will be our saviours but it might be tight.
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| We never got any opportunities at their end to show any kind of creativity. It was set for set in the first half with nothing between the two teams. Unfortunately the second half we gave away too many penalties and unforced errors. They had the all the momentum and field position which forced us to defend for 25 mins which killed the game.
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| In CC speak, four good halves out of six. Just fell away badly in the second half after a reasonably impressive first forty. Westerman easily our best player today and the usual lack of enterprise in their 20 metre area. Oh. for a Sam Tompkins!! In the first half they put us back into defending in our own ten metre area on every sixth tackle and taking four of our six tackles to get out again relying mainly on Senior to make the ground.
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| If that today was wakefield playing with pride and passion it’s a very sad day and state of affairs at the club .If that is the best they can muster for the fans for the challenge cup ,some need to be looking at jobs away from rugby as obviously they have no heart for the game and do it a disservice.
All we could muster was yet another solo effort from off the cuff play .
How on earth the club expect to pull new and stay away fans back to belle vue is beyond me ,you’ll need someone who can sell sand in the desert.
I’ve followed this club through thick and thin and seen some hammering along the way ,but I honestly find it hard watching guys who are supposed to be professional players turning out performances like I witnessed today and to be honest for quite a while now .I don’t know what the answer is ,is it the coaches/players fault , I don’t know but I feel like I’m witnessing the slow demise of a once proud club and most on that field today don’t seem remotely interested .
We may be well down the salary cap ,we may have a small squad ,but that’s no excuse for not putting some pride and passion into the effort , headless chickens spring to mind .
As you can tell I’m miffed to say the least about today’s lacklustre performance but stopped short of picking individual players out for some special treatment .Bursts of brilliance Marred by lots of mediocrity, god help us the next few weeks if we can’t sort our attack out .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"If that today was wakefield playing with pride and passion it’s a very sad day and state of affairs at the club .If that is the best they can muster for the fans for the challenge cup ,some need to be looking at jobs away from rugby as obviously they have no heart for the game and do it a disservice.
All we could muster was yet another solo effort from off the cuff play .
How on earth the club expect to pull new and stay away fans back to belle vue is beyond me ,you’ll need someone who can sell sand in the desert.
I’ve followed this club through thick and thin and seen some hammering along the way ,but I honestly find it hard watching guys who are supposed to be professional players turning out performances like I witnessed today and to be honest for quite a while now .I don’t know what the answer is ,is it the coaches/players fault , I don’t know but I feel like I’m witnessing the slow demise of a once proud club and most on that field today don’t seem remotely interested .
We may be well down the salary cap ,we may have a small squad ,but that’s no excuse for not putting some pride and passion into the effort , headless chickens spring to mind .
As you can tell I’m miffed to say the least about today’s lacklustre performance but stopped short of picking individual players out for some special treatment .Bursts of brilliance Marred by lots of mediocrity, god help us the next few weeks if we can’t sort our attack out .'"
Before the Leigh v Warrington game on Sky, there was a reference to Leigh being an 'underdog', 'mongrel' and 'backs against the wall' attitude. Something that has always been connected to Wakefield.
Unfortunately now we have a very soft underbelly and are even now, sleepwalking towards relegation.
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| Quote ="wakefield1990"At the end of the day we got beat by a very professional Catalan performance. It was a well balanced first half and we could have easily gone in at half time with a lead if the Pitts try was given and Bill went himself in the corner. Second half we gifted them field position with unforced errors and dumb penalties. You can’t compete without the ball unfortunately. Westerman head and shoulders our best player today.'"
I agree about Westerman. I believe Trinity need a couple of props signed...too weak in this area of the game.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"I agree about Westerman. I believe Trinity need a couple of props signed...too weak in this area of the game.'"
What saddened me the most about yesterday’s game was our one time talisman and crowd favourite taking the ball stood and virtually walking into the oncoming tackles . On around the 7 min mark I watched him walking back into the line like a condemned man going to the gallows .Simply not good enough from him or others on the park for that matter .God know what the likes of Crowther and batchelor think of this ,who do they look up to for inspiration in the heat of battle .you’ve got the likes of Innes running it out and getting bundled back over the line with players stood about watching, yes we need some grunt up front but we also need our incumbents to role their sleeves up and put a shift in .Our attacking structures yesterday were more akin to wath brow hornets than a super league side , although we did shore up the defences at times or it would have been a cricket score .Tompkins aside les cats were a bang average side but they simply had more desire and determination than us on the day ,obviously the cup means a lot more to them than us .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"What saddened me the most about yesterday’s game was our one time talisman and crowd favourite taking the ball stood and virtually walking into the oncoming tackles . On around the 7 min mark I watched him walking back into the line like a condemned man going to the gallows .Simply not good enough from him or others on the park for that matter .God know what the likes of Crowther and batchelor think of this ,who do they look up to for inspiration in the heat of battle .you’ve got the likes of Innes running it out and getting bundled back over the line with players stood about watching, yes we need some grunt up front but we also need our incumbents to role their sleeves up and put a shift in .Our attacking structures yesterday were more akin to wath brow hornets than a super league side , although we did shore up the defences at times or it would have been a cricket score .Tompkins aside les cats were a bang average side but they simply had more desire and determination than us on the day ,obviously the cup means a lot more to them than us .'"
the look of Crowther and Westerman when Fafita stripped the ball 5 yards out on our line in the second said it all, the days of rolling up their sleeves has gone with them getting paid the same for a win as a loss
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"catalan are flat track bullies and drop to bits when stood up to but the question is have all our pack got it in them to do it and to make drink water and maloney look out of sorts. That is the only time Miller and lino will get some field if we can at least reach parity with their pack. I wouldn’t send senior in or jowitt or Ryan first drive off our line either they are game but too light and it sets the tone of the set getting driven back, before we know they field the kicks and are back on half way. If we can go in with an attitude in the pack of let’s take them on then who knows if we don’t I fear a good hiding coming'"
Well he didn’t seem to send Jowitt in at least, just the 3/4 line for the first 3 plays instead, especially off our own line. Brilliant tactics against a powerful defensive unit...
It took us until the 18th minute to create a play to try get our best player into the game whilst he was actually on the wing. Obviously he’d had the ball numerous times before that repeatedly driving the ball up into The Catalan pack.
For all that we competed well and kept the mistakes down in the first half we effectively competed with Catalan on their terms, trying to match their pack. Why not play to our strengths and get it wide often and early, move their big men about. We effectively played to our weaknesses and whilst we did it well in the first half I always felt we wouldn’t be able to maintain it, People have been criticising a couple of individual mistakes, but you will always get mistakes in the game we actually had a pretty low error account in the first hour, I felt it was our tactics that failed the longer the game went on
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| Quote ="Kettykat"What saddened me the most about yesterday’s game was our one time talisman and crowd favourite taking the ball stood and virtually walking into the oncoming tackles . On around the 7 min mark I watched him walking back into the line like a condemned man going to the gallows .Simply not good enough from him or others on the park for that matter .God know what the likes of Crowther and batchelor think of this ,who do they look up to for inspiration in the heat of battle .you’ve got the likes of Innes running it out and getting bundled back over the line with players stood about watching, yes we need some grunt up front but we also need our incumbents to role their sleeves up and put a shift in .Our attacking structures yesterday were more akin to wath brow hornets than a super league side , although we did shore up the defences at times or it would have been a cricket score .Tompkins aside les cats were a bang average side but they simply had more desire and determination than us on the day ,obviously the cup means a lot more to them than us .'"
The Fifita one not running onto the ball is a real gripe of mine. It’s pathetic to be honest, catching the ball standing still trying to use his fend to make metres. Another thing we miss from him is his quick play the ball and Woody running off the back of it.
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| I noticed that one forward seemed isolated behind the try line after a cats try.
Two groups of players congregated leaving one by himself and he made no effort to join either group.
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| Quote ="Schunter"
For all that we competed well and kept the mistakes down in the first half we effectively competed with Catalan on their terms, trying to match their pack. Why not play to our strengths and get it wide often and early, move their big men about. We effectively played to our weaknesses and whilst we did it well in the first half I always felt we wouldn’t be able to maintain it, '"
I agree that our strengths at the moment are in the backs. The problem seems to be that the opposition's defence is on them almost before they get the ball. Sometimes it's because the distribution is slow/predictable but I reckon that more often than not we have not drawn enough of the opposition's forwards into the middle of the pitch which would allow the backs chance to have an overlap or be creative. That comes down to our forwards needing to be more of a handful and getting quick play the ball. The predictability causes a problem as the opposition can move their defence around with confidence. When Lino did his little kick through and broke the defensive line it created some uncertainty In Catalan's defence for a short time and they made sure they got to him before he had a chance to do anything like it again. We need to create that uncertainty more often.
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| McNamara is quite complimentary about us in today's League Express...
" Wakefield played well on Saturday, we had a lot of ball control and pressure but they were really strong in defence.....Wakefield haven't managed to get a win, but I know that they are potentially a lethal team this season. They have a real opportunity to do something special..."
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| Quote ="FIL"McNamara is quite complimentary about us in today's League Express...
" Wakefield played well on Saturday, we had a lot of ball control and pressure but they were really strong in defence.....Wakefield haven't managed to get a win, but I know that they are potentially a lethal team this season. They have a real opportunity to do something special..."
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| Quote ="FIL"McNamara is quite complimentary about us in today's League Express...
" Wakefield played well on Saturday, we had a lot of ball control and pressure but they were really strong in defence.....Wakefield haven't managed to get a win, but I know that they are potentially a lethal team this season. They have a real opportunity to do something special..."
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He's absolutely spot on!
However when will it happen and who will make it happen, that's what we fans are concerned about.
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