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| Forwards look excellent, still not sure about Finn but a vast improvement on last years squad.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Forwards look excellent, still not sure about Finn but a vast improvement on last years squad.'"
I'm a huge Finn fan but if he dos get bust we are a bit thin - I reckon we need another H/B or a hooker who can cover.
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| Quote ="hazzard"1 Bishop
2 Johnstone
3 Arundel
4 Hall
5 Tupou
6 Miller
7 Finn
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12 Kirmond
13 Sio
14 Arona
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20 Howarth
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22 Jowitt
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24 Morris
25 Owen
26 Gibson
28 Tansey
29 Annikin
30 Shulver'"
Moore hasn't been announced yet. He's a Cas player right now.
And for me, Gibson and Arona will be in the 13
And Sio will play hooker
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm a huge Finn fan but if he dos get bust we are a bit thin - I reckon we need another H/B or a hooker who can cover.'"
Reckon it be moore or godinet
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| Quote ="PopTart"Moore hasn't been announced yet. He's a Cas player right now.
And for me, Gibson and Arona will be in the 13
And Sio will play hooker'"
Howarth played hooker for us, Salford and Saints so some cover there.
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| It is good to have various options.
Here is another. Several have said that ideally we need another half back to provide cover/competition.
If we were to bring one in, if they were to be a good half back, then we could even maybe play Finn at 9, and Sio at 13.
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| Quote ="vastman"Howarth played hooker for us, Salford and Saints so some cover there.'"
But he didn't play it well.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"But he didn't play it well.'"
In your opinion.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm a huge Finn fan'"
That's an understatement
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| I think we also need to cover goalkicking options - Hall was probably our main kicker at the start of the year but was erratic after a good start (like the rest of his form) and the other options are Arundel, Miller and Finn. Not sure any of these are considered to be A+ goalkickers though. Its a bit of a weakness
Liking the recent signings though.
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| I thought Howarth was OK at 9 to be honest.
I don't like Sio at 13. It's ok as cover but our pack strength changed when we played Molloy and Simon in the back row and in particular when we played Simon at 13. Size matters to us and we have an abundance of big back rowers now. No point putting a smaller guy out of position in that spot.
As was pointed out Kirmond and Tupou run opposite sides of the field so will work well together. Molloy, Simon, Arona and maybe Annakin would all fit at 13 before Sio.
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| Quote ="Willzay"That's an understatement
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I'm aware of his limitation but VFM is spot on - he's just a really sensible signing not a world beater.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm aware of his limitation but VFM is spot on - he's just a really sensible signing not a world beater.'"
correct and every team has sensible players in them, no one fields a team of out and out superstars in every position.
Sensible players are the oil in the engine and go about facilitating play while the Tupou's and BJBs of the team do the game breaking, eye catching stuff
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| Quote ="vastman"In your opinion.'"
He's played for 6 different clubs since he left us in 2011. That's suggests he hasn't been very good for any of them.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"He's played for 6 different clubs since he left us in 2011. That's suggests he hasn't been very good for any of them.'"
By 6 do you mean Featherstone Dewsbury and Cas.
I'm pretty sure Fev wanted to keep him but Cas gave him a shot back in Super League so an upward move.
He went to Wembley, played a lot of games leading Cas and captained Ireland against Australia.
Hardly let go.
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| They 're on about Howarth .
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"He's played for 6 different clubs since he left us in 2011. That's suggests he hasn't been very good for any of them.'"
Six clubs since 2011, he's done well to squeeze them in!
Got to go with Vastman on this one, been at Saints and Salford and also at Hull, so not really 'a not very good player'.
You don't stay in SL unless you got a bit of something about you.
Maybe a victim of his versatility, that he can do a job when asked.
Unfortunate to get injured not long after he signed, give him a chance under BS?
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Six clubs since 2011, he's done well to squeeze them in!
Got to go with Vastman on this one, been at Saints and Salford and also at Hull, so not really 'a not very good player'.
You don't stay in SL unless you got a bit of something about you.
Maybe a victim of his versatility, that he can do a job when asked.
Unfortunate to get injured not long after he signed, give him a chance under BS?'"
Who would you have picked him before last season, Godinet, Sio or Moore?
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Six clubs since 2011, he's done well to squeeze them in!
Got to go with Vastman on this one, been at Saints and Salford and also at Hull, so not really 'a not very good player'.
You don't stay in SL unless you got a bit of something about you.
Maybe a victim of his versatility, that he can do a job when asked.
Unfortunate to get injured not long after he signed, give him a chance under BS?'"
Who would you have picked him before last season, Godinet, Sio or Moore?'"
Howarth I believe was signed before Sio and Moore to give back up to McShane, as Godinet was struggling with an injury.
He got an injury, Sio came in and then Moore for McShane.
Moore got an injury also but Howath is still recovering from his injury.
Unfair to judge a player who is injured not long after he arrives and write him off.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"They 're on about Howarth .'"
Oh that makes more sense....... Doh!
I'll get my coat.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Howarth I believe was signed before Sio and Moore to give back up to McShane, as Godinet was struggling with an injury.
He got an injury, Sio came in and then Moore for McShane.
Moore got an injury also but Howath is still recovering from his injury.
Unfair to judge a player who is injured not long after he arrives and write him off.'"
I asked who YOU would have picked him before last season?
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I asked who YOU would have picked him before last season?'"
And that question is hypothetical, as he was injured.
So on that basis, the answer to your question, is all of them
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"And that question is hypothetical, as he was injured.
So on that basis, the answer to your question, is all of them'"
So we agree he was 4th choice hooker? 4th choice hooker in a team that finished bottom by a long way? Not really a ringing endorsement.
And Sio was signed before Howarth got injured.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"So we agree he was 4th choice hooker? 4th choice hooker in a team that finished bottom by a long way? Not really a ringing endorsement.
And Sio was signed before Howarth got injured.'"
Not what he said is it - we get it, he's your fourth choice, some of us can't make such a judgement call - maybe we are just not as smart as you.
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| Quote ="vastman"Not what he said is it - we get it, he's your fourth choice, some of us can't make such a judgement call - maybe we are just not as smart as you.'"
I don't think you are.
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