Mountain and Molehill media scare mongering. All you have to do is look at the London High Court Chaucery website and you will see that companies larger than WTWRLFC could ever be are being brought to court by HMRC www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/ ... ancery.htm Just look at the first listing.

Mountain and Molehill media scare mongering. All you have to do is look at the London High Court Chaucery website and you will see that companies larger than WTWRLFC could ever be are being brought to court by HMRC www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/ ... ancery.htm Just look at the first listing.

Just imagine, how further we would be up the creek if we had to pay tax on the actual rather than recorded attendances.

This whole thing stinks!! I know there are a lot of people on here who are very friendly with ted and his cohorts, and I mean no offence to you well meaning people, but the whole thing is embarrasing.

Ted you have been good for trinity, in our hour of need you were there, but it's time to step aside, there is money out there, and it is being stopped from coming in because of the current regime.

And before I get jumped on by those in the inner circle, I get mine from
the same place as you.

Can you tell us who that is, if not I would be happy with a PM.

Quote ="trinfan71"Mountain and Molehill media scare mongering. All you have to do is look at the London High Court Chaucery website and you will see that companies larger than WTWRLFC could ever be are being brought to court by HMRC www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/ ... ancery.htm Just look at the first listing.'" nice link!!! Has any of these other 4/5 SL clubs appeared on it, and if so are they gonna be innit further than us. It gets a mention that we're not innit on our own but is there any proof or are we just talking it up? Innit!!!!!

Quote ="trinfan71"Mountain and Molehill media scare mongering. All you have to do is look at the London High Court Chaucery website and you will see that companies larger than WTWRLFC could ever be are being brought to court by HMRC www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/ ... ancery.htm Just look at the first listing.'" nice link!!! Has any of these other 4/5 SL clubs appeared on it, and if so are they gonna be innit further than us. It gets a mention that we're not innit on our own but is there any proof or are we just talking it up? Innit!!!!!

Quote ="trinfan71"Mountain and Molehill media scare mongering. All you have to do is look at the London High Court Chaucery website and you will see that companies larger than WTWRLFC could ever be are being brought to court by HMRC www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/ ... ancery.htm Just look at the first listing.'" This link is not the winding up list, it is the company dispute list. Vision Express are taking HMCR to court not vice versa. This one last sat on 4th November and the full list of cases heard is here. www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/ ... inding.htm On that list is another rugby club - Oldham PS I have interest in this as my former employer is also on that list.

Quote ="trinfan71"Mountain and Molehill media scare mongering. All you have to do is look at the London High Court Chaucery website and you will see that companies larger than WTWRLFC could ever be are being brought to court by HMRC www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/ ... ancery.htm Just look at the first listing.'" This link is not the winding up list, it is the company dispute list. Vision Express are taking HMCR to court not vice versa. This one last sat on 4th November and the full list of cases heard is here. www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/ ... inding.htm On that list is another rugby club - Oldham PS I have interest in this as my former employer is also on that list.

and how many times was i shot down by the in the know brigade about wakey in trouble financially!!!!

good luck!!

A number of other clubs will definitely have larger liabilities than Wakefield. However, if those clubs can settle the outstanding bill with HMRC you'll never be any wiser. Don't forget some of the owners behind the larger clubs have much bigger pockets and can more easily absorb a hit like this. It's only because Wakefield can't pay that it's reached court and therefore the media.

Wakefield fans <> the real world...

...will they ever meet. I doubt it reading the claptrap written on here by some.

WTRLFC is a business or that's what everyone claims they want it to be (when it suits).

We are in a massive recession with lines of credit a hard thing to find. We entered this recession in a weaker position than most and are now scrambling for survival as are many clubs. To do this we need to use every trick in the book. Thus delaying payments to the IR is an obvious one as it keeps the cash flow going.

It's like when you run up your credit and turn them into a loan. It may cost you a little more but it makes things manageable until things pick up. It's not ideal but it's how the real world works especially right now!!. The fact that it makes cheap headlines is neither here nor there.

I suggest a few people come down from their ivory towers on this one and face up to the reality of being a Trin fan - something most of us did years ago. As stated many times before, nothing will change and we will always struggle until we get a new ground - that in case some have not noticed is what all the fuss has been about since SWAG began.

Move on

PS: Idea Mopsey, it's fans like you and the never ending bitter, negative, badmouthing that you and others continually peddle that puts folk off as much as anything else IMHO. Think about it.

I really wouldn't throw stones if I were you, your greenhouse is even leakier from what I hear.

And so it begins...again



Ignore people who are trolling and they will go away.

And you shouldnt believe everything you hear.

I think you'll find this isn't what's happened. The money owing is not connected to normal payments to HMRC, it's over and above this. It's tax and NICs due on money that's been "illegally" paid tax free.

is this a fact, how do you know if it is, if it us does it relate to the previously mentioned naming rites etc. If so who's bright idea was it??
I appreciate we may not be on our own, but I arent bothered about anyone elses cock ups!!!!

No idea whether Boom is right, but that could only be on image rights paid to offshore accounts for the overseas players to collect on their way home. If so many clubs will have fallen foul of this, it’s just the perhaps the majority have the capital to pay it off before court actions are taken against them.

I'm pretty sure if the club didn’t use this loophole that many of their rivals will have been exploiting then they would also have been criticised by some on here for lack of initiative.

If all payments are met in 12 weeks then all this will have been a lot of fuss over nothing. Hopefully the club can fulfil their obligations.

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He means well,

he really does

There's no need to hide your real identity just for this!

doesn't mention millard there hope it's still on

The worst thing that ever happened was full time clubs RL can not sustain full time professional clubs bar maybe Leeds and Wigan
the rest of us all lose money season in season out most have a sugar daddy we don’t time for the game to get real
even if a club turns over 4 million then spend 1.7 million on the players salary cap they then have ground maintenance police stewarding staff costs tax ETC ETC it dose not add up the attendances in RL can not support full time contracts.

Hull have been profitable for the last 3 seasons, without the aid of a major investor. It can be done, although expectations of performances on the field may need to be trimmed back.

hull have a bigger supporter base which helps, we are desperate for a new ground and we know it,
if we can ride this out and get Stanley up and moving I will feel better

Oh aye - I'm not suggesting that it's easy, just that it can be done. It took us years to get into profit even after we moved to the KC and crowds increased.

Hope this all gets sorted out and you can move on ASAP.

I can understand the panic, but everyone is saying that the bill will be paid and we are not having a fire sale of players.

If it is to do with image rights, then we have been asked to pay a large sum of money that we hadn't expected to pay in a year when our through the gate income has been cut by around 20%. It is no real surprise that we couldn't just dip into the pot, particularly as I expect that keeping the club running competitively on our resources is like plate-spinning.

We have been in worse financial scrapes than this one, but it is a good reason not to increase Brough's money.

Business is that simple. I run a ltd company and hold back a set % to pay for this stuff. It is very simple, if you use the money for something else your going under.

Try telling the owner he has to make all his staff redundant because he has not followed simple company rules.

Quite frankly this whole thing disgusts me and is distasteful

In the past I have bought shares to help secure the club

I have been offered debentures (remember the West Stand to become a parade of shops! the Ground at Sharlston?)

I paid money after the CVA to assist not one word of thanks

I have pad into the lottery have 4 lots of shares

And still after all the promises that have never been fulfilled I support the club but I am sorry some people couldnt deliver a pizza down at BV.

The article on the front page of the YEP and page 5 of the WE today have made me really annoyed I said before when we had the business bloke who lasted 12 months thats what we needed to continue this is a business and to be frank the club is like someones hobby, everything is on the cheap, programme sellers the stewards everything is just about kept in place by volunteers and oh yes over the years in the wilderness times I have done my share of volunteering.

The way the club is marketed is poor IMHO and the news of the media post is welcome the club really does need to get its act together in its affairs.

Rant over