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| Poptart...I couldn't care less about royalty one way or tuther,my comment was a bit of fun.But I do think you're wrong if you think Kate whatshername will make much difference to how we are perceived as a sport or whether we will benefit much.People aren't stupid, they know KM has absolutely nothing in common with RL,nor will she have.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Genuine question PT, in the 8 years Rugby League had the highest profile royal as our patron, what good do you think it has done Rugby League?
What your saying sounds good, but realistically instead of looking into the future and guessing what good it might do can we not just look back on the last 8 years? You talk about a bigger picture but I just wonder what it actually means for the sport in terms of making a difference?
I can`t see it having any influence what so ever on TV rights, I look down the list of the 2013 world cup sponsorships, very similar to the sponsorship for this years and I can`t imagine any of them have sponsored the game due to Harry being involved, sure it could be a small bonus but it`s not the reason they sponsor.
In the last 8 years, our TV deal has drastically reduced, attendances have drastically reduced, viewing figures have reduced, is that anything to do with Harry? No, but that's the point. For me, they have zero influence on anything at all, if Kate bothers to show up to a final every once in a while we might get a 3 second snippet of her on the BBC whilst we are signing the national anthem, that's about it.
Realistically it means nothing.'"
I think it means a lot.
Whether we are capable as a sport of using it is a far bigger question.
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| Quote ="madkeentrin"Poptart...I couldn't care less about royalty one way or tuther,my comment was a bit of fun.But I do think you're wrong if you think Kate whatshername will make much difference to how we are perceived as a sport or whether we will benefit much.People aren't stupid, they know KM has absolutely nothing in common with RL,nor will she have.'"
That's not the point.
It wouldn't make a difference if she loved the sport either.
What it does do is make a good image for a good marketer to make something.
Without her we are a northern sport who can't see out of our heartlands who no one cares about.
With her we are much the same with potential to bring in someone who doesn't see it that way.
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| Who wold you prefer Snowie, Jeremy or Piers Corbin?
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| Quote ="Manuel"Who wold you prefer Snowie, Jeremy or Piers Corbin?'"
Hmm that's a really tough question.
Can any of them play Hooker??
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| Quote ="snowie"Don't give a toss for the royalty one bit for me they can do one'"
I swore an oath to serve the Queen for 32 years prepared to give everything for the honour, I totally and utterly disagree with your view point. The Royals bring more in than they receive the Queen is revered all over the world.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Genuine question PT, in the 8 years Rugby League had the highest profile royal as our patron, what good do you think it has done Rugby League?
What your saying sounds good, but realistically instead of looking into the future and guessing what good it might do can we not just look back on the last 8 years? You talk about a bigger picture but I just wonder what it actually means for the sport in terms of making a difference?
I can`t see it having any influence what so ever on TV rights, I look down the list of the 2013 world cup sponsorships, very similar to the sponsorship for this years and I can`t imagine any of them have sponsored the game due to Harry being involved, sure it could be a small bonus but it`s not the reason they sponsor.
In the last 8 years, our TV deal has drastically reduced, attendances have drastically reduced, viewing figures have reduced, is that anything to do with Harry? No, but that's the point. For me, they have zero influence on anything at all, if Kate bothers to show up to a final every once in a while we might get a 3 second snippet of her on the BBC whilst we are signing the national anthem, that's about it.
Realistically it means nothing.'"
I think you’re not getting this at all.
It’s a Royal patronage so it has to be a Royal
Being a woman is no disadvantage as there has never been any connection between being a Royal patron and the organisation you are patron of.
Do you seriously think the Princess Anne is actively involved on a regular basis with the hundreds of organisation she is patron too?
I’d have thought her being a high profile woman would be a positive for a sport chasing female participation and support.
How do you know she doesn’t like Rugby?
It’s a decent coup for the sport especially when we don’t pay for it.
Good choice imo.
As for the need for such a role, well that’s a different issue.
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| She’s not short of a bob or two……perhaps she could make up the Sky deal shortfall.
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| I would have far preferred Johnny Vegas as our sport's ambassador. At least he's a keen fan of the game. Unlike some minor royal who probably didn't know the game existed..
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| We will have to wait and see if her patronage brings in any extra cash Poptart,very much doubt it.
Good shout Redscat.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"I swore an oath to serve the Queen for 32 years prepared to give everything for the honour, I totally and utterly disagree with your view point. The Royals bring more in than they receive the Queen is revered all over the world.'"
Not that old chestnut RWB. Do royalists ever have any other misinformed excuse for their existence?.I've paid towards the "royal's" upkeep for 60 years and none of them have ever said thankyou, Redscat old chap!!!
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| Quote ="Manuel"Who wold you prefer Snowie, Jeremy or Piers Corbin?'"
Ken Dodd but we'd have to dig him up now
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"I swore an oath to serve the Queen for 32 years prepared to give everything for the honour, I totally and utterly disagree with your view point. The Royals bring more in than they receive the Queen is revered all over the world.'"
that's your choice which I respect but my dislike for them came when Diana was killed and it took the country to get them to recognise her death absolute disgrace the way they acted and then we have prince Andrew which is hiding and won't go back to America on trial, I could add more but this is about what she brings to the game in sure she won't turn up to many games if any at all
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| Quote ="Redscat"Not that old chestnut RWB. Do royalists ever have any other misinformed excuse for their existence?.I've paid towards the "royal's" upkeep for 60 years and none of them have ever said thankyou, Redscat old chap!!!'"
You are entitled to your view it's not the same as mine I will leave it at that
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| Quote ="Redscat"Not that old chestnut RWB. Do royalists ever have any other misinformed excuse for their existence?.I've paid towards the "royal's" upkeep for 60 years and none of them have ever said thankyou, Redscat old chap!!!'"
Really? I get a thank you from Liz every year. Nice little hamper and a thank you card.
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| I think Kate will have a close look at next seasons fixture list and plck a game to attend every week or maybe every other week.
The problem being of course is the likely hood of sky's messing about and Kate unable to attend, she will probably lose interest very quickly.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Really? I get a thank you from Liz every year. Nice little hamper and a thank you card.'"
Yeah!, I thought you might have. Sure it was a card you received and not your centenary telegram, PT
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| Quote ="PopTart"Really? I get a thank you from Liz every year. Nice little hamper and a thank you card.'"
Realistically she'd walk the other way if you was in the gutter in need of help
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| Quote ="Redscat"Not that old chestnut RWB. Do royalists ever have any other misinformed excuse for their existence?[u.I've paid towards the "royal's" upkeep for 60 years [/uand none of them have ever said thankyou, Redscat old chap!!!'"
Did you start work at 5 year old, or did you retire at 75, just asking like.
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| How many knighthoods have the royal family ever given to a rugby league player? Zero.
They, along with governments, send us working class folk off to war as cannon fodder, yet some of us still bow down and tug our forelokes. The royal family care about us as much as tories clapping for nurses on a Thursday night. The only difference here is that we are literally being 'patronised'
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| Quote ="snowie"Realistically she'd walk the other way if you was in the gutter in need of help'"
You maybe but not me.
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| Quote ="TrinityDave"How many knighthoods have the royal family ever given to a rugby league player? Zero.
They, along with governments, send us working class folk off to war as cannon fodder, yet some of us still bow down and tug our forelokes. The royal family care about us as much as tories clapping for nurses on a Thursday night. The only difference here is that we are literally being 'patronised''"
The Royal family don't decide who get knighthood.
It is decided by the cabinet office based on nominations by anyone at all.
If we don't nominate our people, they won't be on the list.
Also, they don't send anyone to war that didn't sign up to do so.
Try again.
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| Quote ="happyjack"Did you start work at 5 year old, or did you retire at 75, just asking like.'"
Actually, I started paying tax at 17 years of age 56 years ago, but it's near enough 60 years, happy, and I'm still paying it!!! but does HM appreciate it... nah!!!
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| Kate is a sort and so much better that sis in law
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| Quote ="Redscat"I would have far preferred Johnny Vegas as our sport's ambassador. At least he's a keen fan of the game. Unlike some minor royal who probably didn't know the game existed..'"
Jeez
Yes so would I but whichever way you slice it Vegas is not a royal not even in Saint Helens!
What part of Royal Patron are people not getting?
It may well be a pointless honour title and the stunningly beautiful Kate probably has no interest in the game. However by marriage she is a member of the Royal family hence she qualifies.
That said she herself is a commoner unlike the spoilt ginger brat so for me at least she’s an upgrade.
Truth is once the Queen dies and Charles has his five minutes of fame the Royal Family will slowly fade. They know this, and I can’t think of a better couple than Will and Kate to lead the way in what even I, a royalist, accepts to be an anachronism in the modern world.They will probably end up as a role model family for those who need roll models but with enough cash and class to avoid having to do reality TV.
So why not enjoy what’s left of ancient Britain’s history before we have the vile spectacle of Lord Tony or Sir Simon Cowell buying the throne.
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