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| There are 3 possibilities' with Owen either he has or he hasn't or it's on the table waiting for him to sign, if it's the latter and he's waiting for a better offer or Cas to want him back then I don't think it's gonna happen, if he hasn't been offered one by now then imo it won't happen, but then if he has already signed for us then why the hell has it not been announced.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"We're not talking about Ryan Hall here. Is Caro any better than Johnstone? How would we ever know without him getting a chance.'"
Interesting point and probably the difference between us (fans) and a good Coach.
He will probably tell you he doesn't need to play X,Y or Z because he already knows they have not got what it takes or slightly better, they are not yet ready.
I know what you're thinking (I think) which is why keep them. I suppose it's because they help create a team in which others may thrive even if they themselves have probably found their level - with I hope some room built in for late developers - which I think is fair so long as the player knows where they stand. At the end of the day even if you don't get past the Academy you've still done well, better than most of us that's for certain.
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| Quote ="chissitt"There are 3 possibilities' with Owen either he has or he hasn't or it's on the table waiting for him to sign, if it's the latter and he's waiting for a better offer or Cas to want him back then I don't think it's gonna happen, if he hasn't been offered one by now then imo it won't happen, but then if he has already signed for us then why the hell has it not been announced.'"
Cas won't want him
Carney, Clare and Dixon all in front of him now.
I should think they have other kids coming through too.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Cas won't want him
Carney, Clare and Dixon all in front of him now.
I should think they have other kids coming through too.'"
Just a thought but with quite a few fans' on here not wanting him, and MC spending time on here, perhaps he's already signed and the club are hoping to slip it in with the signing of Smith to soften the blow
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| I would never just slip a new signing out just because a few on here don't want him? I'd rather just sign whoever the coach wants, within his playing budget.....
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| Why not look at Wakefield lads in the championship.Or is that too hard?
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I would never just slip a new signing out just because a few on here don't want him? I'd rather just sign whoever the coach wants, within his playing budget.....'"
Oh fgs if we are just going to talk common sense, rather than pandering to petulant supporters, I'm outta here
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| Not wishing to burst anyone's prejudices but not only was Owen not expecting the kick through at that point neither was Collis. I was also under the impression that Owen chased back from the opposite wing when Caro intercepted and it was Riley who he ran passed for his try from the grabber.
I wouldn't want anyone to think that I am having a go at Riley, because I would not do what they do every week, I am just trying to point out that anyone can see what they want.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I would never just slip a new signing out just because a few on here don't want him? I'd rather just sign whoever the coach wants, within his playing budget.....'"
So does that mean the club has not signed him yet?. Oh btw I wasn't going to mention it on the other thread but I voted for you as well
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| I wouldn't want Owen, if I were coach, but I am not so if Webster does want him I'd support him.
I didn't want Cockayne and I did a complete pirouette on him. So who knows.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I wouldn't want Owen, if I were coach, but I am not so if Webster does want him I'd support him.
I didn't want Cockayne and I did a complete pirouette on him. So who knows.'"
As much as I wasn't too keen on Cockayne the person when we signed him, I actually quite rated Cockayne the player. He was in a much better position to win me over than Owen, who I don't rate at all.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"As much as I wasn't too keen on Cockayne the person when we signed him, I actually quite rated Cockayne the player. He was in a much better position to win me over than Owen, who I don't rate at all.'"
Jury's still out for me, started off pretty poorly but seems to have settled in a bit now, I'm more confident in defense with him there rather than BC or Foxy.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I wouldn't want Owen, if I were coach, but I am not so if Webster does want him I'd support him.
I didn't want Cockayne and I did a complete pirouette on him. So who knows.'"
I guess you are not the club scout then.
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| Like DC has said, the coach will sign who he wants within the budget and if Owen fits both criteria, then he will be at Wakey next season.
No point moaning about who we maybe signing and who we should be signing.
The maybe signings fit within the budget.
The who we should be signings can only be achieved by a bigger pot to dip into.
Think the recruitment has gone pretty well so far but it wouldn't matter who we signed, some people would still have an excuse not to come to games or buy a season ticket.
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| Wasn't he signed when Agar was coach? If he did sign a 2.5 yr contract then surely he is a player Agar wanted and not necessarily a Webster choice?
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| Please don't sign Owen Mr cool! Do not REWARD LAZINESS!
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| Not a big Owen fan but wouldn't sign Caro either! Has to be better all round players out there!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess you are not the club scout then.'"
Indeed. I'd be no good at that
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| Would rather have kaye than owen. Wakey lad and scoring for fun. We let him go far too early.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Would rather have kaye than owen. Wakey lad and scoring for fun. We let him go far too early.'"
He`s a Wakey lad? I was under the impression Liam was from the Bradford side of Leeds?
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| We also didn't let him go, we were outbid by Leigh who offered him more than we valued him for
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| And I think you'll find his name is spelt Kay, not to be too pedantic or anything but if you're going to complain at least get it right
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"He`s a Wakey lad? I was under the impression Liam was from the Bradford side of Leeds?'"
Spot on!
Was at Leeds then Bradford then us.
Hardly RW&B if you cut him in half!
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Would rather have kaye than owen. Wakey lad and scoring for fun. We let him go far too early.'"
As usual the devil is in the detail but as usual you don't seem to do
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Would rather have kaye than owen. Wakey lad and scoring for fun. We let him go far too early.'"
He's not scoring for fun in SL though is he?
It's the same argument that was rolled out for Andy Ellis - a few fans know better than *every* coach in SL, such that they've all missed the potential of these players and they've ended up languishing in the Championship, despite their huge talents. Or maybe there's another reason...
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