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| Think Aiton got it as he never stopped moving. Sadly though there was very little else constructive about his performance and his dummy half distribution is poor. Ben Cockayne would probably have got mine though Wilkes was decent, Annakin also.
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| Wilkes one run ? I said apart from one run so who has funny eyesight.Apart from the that one run it was 5 yards and down.Annakin has been good since getting his chance but for me mom should have been Cockayne always gives 100%
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| We didn't look like a team today for some reason for the first time in a long time and that concerns me. One up rugby easy to defend, no speed at the play the ball, too many brainfarts, too many players off colour, not fit? Tired? Who knows why? We are certainly consistently inconsistent and until we develop a killer instinct especially at home then we're gonna lose a lot of close games. Already that's Hudds, Salford and Hull thrown away and all were there for the taking. I really thought we were gonna push on this year after our end of season 7 match run. Time will tell I suppose but I have only seen it in flashes so far. Mom today ? Nobody really stood out, Kirmond, Annakin and Cockayne probably best of an off colour bunch and maybe Wilkes next. They don't half frustrate the hell out of you, one minute you're back in the game, the next they've shot themselves in the foot again with the craziest of decision making. Ah well it's only Wigan next week.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"Is wood injured? if not i can't see what lee smith brings to the game from the bench.
Means Aiton spending much longer on the field and not being as fresh as when he is spelled.'"
I can't see what Lee Smith has to do to get a starting place. Would be in my starting 13 every week.
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| Annakin MoM by a mile yesterday for me.
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| Sadly, I suppose it sums up our current standing when the majority of MOM suggestions are players who appear to run like a train centre field into three tacklers but rarely burst through any defensive line (Aiton, Cockayne, Annakin, Wilkes). I actually think Kirmond did enough in his short spell to earn MOM. That's how bad we were!
I was very surprised that Lyne didn't make a better effort to prove to the Hull fans that they'd lost an assett.
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| The team is missing Ellis. Thought it would when he was let go and nothing i have seen this season has changed my mind.
The crazy passes from Smith were probably as a result of a lack of runners. Don't think I saw one dummy runner yesterday.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The team is missing Ellis. Thought it would when he was let go and nothing i have seen this season has changed my mind.
The crazy passes from Smith were probably as a result of a lack of runners. Don't think I saw one dummy runner yesterday.'"
No but there was a fair few dummies running.
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| Well it appears that Fox is now off the hook and Aiton seems to be the new scapegoat, on the plus side what's the chances of getting Obst back along with Solomona and dare I say Dale Ferguson plus anybody else that springs to mind.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I can't see what Lee Smith has to do to get a starting place. Would be in my starting 13 every week.'"
Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I was very surprised that Lyne didn't make a better effort to prove to the Hull fans that they'd lost an assett.'"
I thought Lyne was a little disappointing yesterday and actually thought we should have changed things round early in the 2nd half and replaced him with Lee Smith.
Smith needs to come back into the starting line-up for me, he offers a lot more than Lyne at this moment in time. Not having a go at Lyne who started the season well but has not got back to that standard since he missed a couple of games injured.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I thought Lyne was a little disappointing yesterday and actually thought we should have changed things round early in the 2nd half and replaced him with Lee Smith.
Smith needs to come back into the starting line-up for me, he offers a lot more than Lyne at this moment in time. Not having a go at Lyne who started the season well but has not got back to that standard since he missed a couple of games injured.'"
Perhaps Lyne was chosen over Smith in the belief that he may want to show Hull what they had let go? Anyway it backfired, not that he was that bad, just that Smith is way in front of him in my book in ability and experience. I would definitely start with Smith frfom now on.
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| the end of last season we finished off strong,without aiton,this season he comes back and the team take a step backwards,is it a coincidence
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| Quote ="trinity1"the end of last season we finished off strong,without aiton,this season he comes back and the team take a step backwards,is it a coincidence'"
Its not the presence of Aiton, but the absence of Ellis.
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| Quote ="trinity1"
the end of last season we finished off strong,without aiton,this season he comes back and the team take a step backwards,is it a coincidence '"
Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Its not the presence of Aiton, but the absence of Ellis.'"
Chickens coming home to roost regarding the crazy decision to let Ellis go.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Well it appears that Fox is now off the hook...'"
Despite crossing the line I thought he had another poor game. He only ever seemed to go sideways when he got the ball! I don't think he's been slated on here because Hull seemed to not want to pepper him with the high kicks so he made few handling errors and consequently wasn't as noticeable.
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| Annakin man of the match for me.
I agree Lynne was poor, but I aren't convinced he's a centre, would be very tempted to move him to the wing! Wouldn't be bringing Lee Smith back in though, Walshaw and Cowling are both very good young players and deserve a chance! In fact I don't see what they did to get dropped in the first place, Cowling went very well against Saints in particular.
Would also be tempted to move Cockayne to hooker he always looks dangerous coming out of dummy half and running at the line.
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| Bring sam obst back on a temporary contract ! . Danny Houghton is exceptional thats how a hooker should be hes outstadning that lad.
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| I think Aiton should be switched to loose, washbrook is no longer a shoe-in for that spot. We need more from a loose forward than topping the tackle count, Washbrook has been a shadow of the player he was last season.
The speed and accuracy of the way we shift the ball needs to be sorted and this starts a dummy half, if Aiton is playing this position he needs to take charge and boss this area if we are to get on the front foot, fast play the balls and scooting easy metres. Everything was so slow and laboured yesterday it looked like they had all been on the Ale all weekend.
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| Surprised i haven't seen anybody mention justin poore, nobody else think we should be seeing a bit more from him?
Annakin was the one stand out for me.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Surprised i haven't seen anybody mention justin poore, nobody else think we should be seeing a bit more from him?
Annakin was the one stand out for me.'"
Why mention him out of the whole bunch of them? He is doing just fine for me - soaks up opposition energy.
He was blowing yesterday though - but most were.
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| We looked jaded yesterday and very static in attack.
Assuming Wood is fit, he should have been on the bench.
He usually gives us some spark of the bench against tired defences.
Overall its been a strange weekend of rugby.
Only Wigan won both of their games with Castleford the only team to lose both, although there were some major blowouts yesterday.
Monday looked like one game too many for us and many others.
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| Quote ="TLeeLegend"I think Aiton should be switched to loose, washbrook is no longer a shoe-in for that spot. We need more from a loose forward than topping the tackle count, Washbrook has been a shadow of the player he was last season.
The speed and accuracy of the way we shift the ball needs to be sorted and this starts a dummy half, if Aiton is playing this position he needs to take charge and boss this area if we are to get on the front foot, fast play the balls and scooting easy metres. Everything was so slow and laboured yesterday it looked like they had all been on the Ale all weekend.'"
I don't see Aiton as anything except hooker. I don't want to stir up arguments about size but I honestly don't think he is big enough for loose forward. I know that position doesn't need a player the size of a prop or second row but I think it demands some size to add to the physical presence of the forwards. Washbrook just looked as jaded as the other players to me yesterday.On his day I think he does ok.
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| Quote ="TRB"Why mention him out of the whole bunch of them? He is doing just fine for me - soaks up opposition energy.
He was blowing yesterday though - but most were.
Agree on Annakin - contract needed NOW!'"
Just seemed as poor as the rest of them yesterday bar an odd couple, don't get me wrong i thought he started off like a house on fire and had/have very high hopes for him - but he seems to have escaped any (constructive) criticism in the main when the majority of others haven't. I think he is getting dragged into trying to show how tough he is rather than doing the little things like winning the floor/ruck, and he contributed significantly to our lack of go forward if that makes sense.
Last cuple of games (inc the cas game) he didn't seem to be in the same form as the first few rounds. Fingers crossed he can kick on from the early season form as i would hope to receive more from my marquee nrl signing than cannon fodder who has conceded more penalties than anybody else in the league without providing a tackle bust, and poore is heading in that diection for me at the moment.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The team is missing Ellis. Thought it would when he was let go and nothing i have seen this season has changed my mind.
The crazy passes from Smith were probably as a result of a lack of runners. Don't think I saw one dummy runner yesterday.'"
A lack of runners and the same old dolly drops from Aiton. I honestly think Aiton puts Smith under pressure with weak passes and a serious lack of variety in his play. Just leaves Smith as a sitting duck, receiving predictable slow ball
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Well it appears that Fox is now off the hook and Aiton seems to be the new scapegoat, on the plus side what's the chances of getting Obst back along with Solomona and dare I say Dale Ferguson
plus anybody else that springs to mind.'"
Whilst I've said my piece on Aiton, it is indeed unfair to single him totally out...he just was the most frustrating element of a frustrating effort for me. Trundle up to acting half, bend, lob left, lob right, do nowt else all afternoon...then as I'm walking away p'd off, he's announced as MOM....thought it was a p take to be honest.
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