end of the world..... No

end of any chance of Wakefield having a top level RL team again ..... Yes!

No it's not the end of the world, but if handles badly it could be the start of the end of the world. I certainly can't pick out a single positive all the same.

I think it's already been said the AG has committed to spending the full SC. I would also imagine that the club are planning for the likely contingency that we will not get a license. Maybe wishful thinking on my part but I think with the some of the youngsters we have plus a full SC to spend we should at least be one of the better teams in the division.

Trinity could become the Accrington Stanley of RL if we go down. Not only that in few years time the City centre will probably be awash with to$$ers struting around in Whino shirts.

The salary in the championship as I understand is £300'000 or possibly £400'000 that is not much to run a full time set up.

Doubt it - kids only want to wear the shirts of the top teams.

It is just about doable to run a full time set up on £400,000.

but what does that matter?


if you cant compete to be the best... whats the point?

I believe Halifax, Leigh, Featherstone & Barrow are already spending the full cap in that division. Its only 300K as opposed to 1.65m in SL. Throw in Batley and Sheffield who have settled teams and are very competitve and winning silverware will be far from easy. Assembling a good team within those financial restrictions is a fine balancing act between the youngters and the seasoned pro's. And with three years of championship rugby and no guarantees after that then the chances are any young talent will get picked off by SL clubs anyway. The novelty value of playing different teams will wear off pretty damn quick and people will drift away. Be interesting to see if AG is quite as enthusiastic then.

But you can only spend that for the first year I believe. After that its part-time players and a lower standard of product. The club has been pushing hard for a licence for a reason. Its where it needs to be.

Suppose I'm disillusioned with being thrashed on a regular basis, can't get my kids to come watch and want to us to at least be able to compete.

I honestly believe that although it is a bitter pill for us to swallow, it may be a blessing in disguise. My personal feeling is that we will not be the first heartland club to cut from the top flight. Anyone of a number of clubs do not fit the expansion vision. Any fan of other clubs who thinks a shiny new stadium will be a saving grace is wrong, the game is changing and sadly not for the better.

Catalan were brought in to improve French rugby league internationally. Massive failure since super league the French have finished bottom at the world cup and failed to qualify to play in the four nations.

Crusaders were supposedly to spread the word in the south of the principality. They moved north closer to rugby league land and still are not attracting the numbers.

The long and short of it is we are being judged on the past while others are not being judged anything other than their geographical location and how much the RFL have invested in them (allegedly). We may be the first to suffer at the hands of the 'franchising' system but we won't be the last.

We need to kick on as a club and if what most of us expect to happen, does happen then we need to take the bull by the horns and become a dominant force of the championship.

Sorry but if we are sacrificed I see it as the start of a slow lingering and painful death. Gates will fall dramatically and we will be lucky to average 1,500 which will look good in a 12,000 stadium at Newmarket and don't think that we will become the big fish in the little pond because we will be no different to any other team in the Championship.

Quite frankly if we do not get a franchise and we are indeed sacrificed by the RFL because they have this obsession with expansion and they prefer to keep Crusaders and Harlequins in at our expense then I'm not sure I want to be involved with the game of Rugby League at all - pity after almost 50 years of supporting Trinity but thats how I feel.

Anyway on a positive note I'm one of the few that still believe we will be playing Super League next year so I'm confident of the future.

Spot on. If we have to go to the Championship then we will have to face it as best we can. That said there is IMO not a single positive and if AG doesn't invest and N/M doesn't happen in the first 12 month then as you say the club will simply die.

If the good stuff happens .... we die slowly...


if not .... we die quickly!

Well that depends on whether Crusaders etc survive another season. They won't, we all know that but as a matter of blind obedience to it's own dogma the RFL will ignore that and force us to spend a pointless and destructive year in the Championship. It comes to something when the above is by far and away our best chance yet not a slim chance which is what makes it such a mockery.

Are you saying that if we can't play at the top, its not worth it (to the people of wakefield)?

I think you make a valid point and I'd be suprised if there are not more SL clubs in financial dire straits especially if Leeds lose the image rights legal battle.

that's my honest view... all or nothing!

i CAN IMAGINE WATCHING WINS INSTEAD OF DEFEATS COULD BE GOOD FOR US LONG TERM (grr) as at the moment some kids aren't wanting to go anymore. It's just painful if we get a good revitalised, confident & youthful side thrashing everyone that we can't see them doing it against the likes of Cas and Leeds.

When is the image rights thing gonna be sorted?

Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"When is the image rights thing gonna be sorted?'" Not sure there is quite a bit of conjecture on this thread viewtopic.php?f=17&t=479080 I suppose it depends on whether they can do a deal with HMRC or not. My understanding is that the loophole is now closed and either the club or the player have to absorb the PAYE & NI cost. This should mean that most clubs will have a sizeable increment to their wage bill they may not have been expecting.

Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"When is the image rights thing gonna be sorted?'" Not sure there is quite a bit of conjecture on this thread viewtopic.php?f=17&t=479080 I suppose it depends on whether they can do a deal with HMRC or not. My understanding is that the loophole is now closed and either the club or the player have to absorb the PAYE & NI cost. This should mean that most clubs will have a sizeable increment to their wage bill they may not have been expecting.

Perhaps if you'd have watched the team in 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009 you would have seen more wins than losses - imagine that

Not at all. Its all a matter of opinion. If you are happy watching Wakefield play Batley, Dewsbury etc. than thats great but there wont be many in Wakefield who will.

If Wakefield go in to the Championship I hope that your fans would not desert you as that would show those up to only want to watch the so-called glamour teams. If you follow your club you will support them no matter what league they are in. We did it at Castleford and I would hope Wakefield would get that too.