Whilst the opening poster is way over the top with this ultimatum about Kear and the playoffs. he does raise a valid point about players playing in their prefered positions - as many on here have mentioned through the season. I know for many games we have had to make do and mend, with makeshift line ups, Demetriou appears to play his best in the 3/4, and Grix yet again showed himself as wortthy for a run at 6 - rather than reshuffling the pack after an hour and putting each of them into their (in my opinion) most influential position.

Grix needs a run at 6, and Demetriou needs to be back in the centres - how we make provisions for this is a moot point, but it should happen in my opinion.

indeed. again for me today we lost shape and balance when we had both hookers on the field and thus not spelling them properly. for one set we had obst and drew stood in the attacking line with grix and jd at acting half. why? i'm sure it contributed to our apparent lack of direction throughout the match, we didn't play to any defined plan and didn't lay any real platform consistently

I would move him to second row right now, got the strength and power lacks the distribution, today there was an ideal opportunity to pass the ball to murphy and open up the cas defense but it was blown away by him keeping the ball

I would move him on and put his wage to better use.

not for me. you mention murphy and maybe he will go on to be a success in the centres, i certainly hope he develops and gets his chance. however on todays showing he's not there yet he got dominated in the tackle pretty much every time. i accept he's not played first team for a while

that agree too he's now failing to respond, I have taught my lad at his young age that the winger is for running in the tries and not to be greedy and he responds and uses his winger,
he is showing no faith in his wingers

as far as john kear how anybody from trinity can call for him to leave is beyond me, you only have to look at the work he has done who would we get to replace him anyway

Today Murphy carried the burden of having Atkins as his centre, he did everything that was required of him to good effect IMO as he has done all season when given the chance, in fact there was one point in the game in the second half when he was playing Cas on his own in defence. Atkins has had more than his chance and failed to kick on, there is now a player in Murphy that is waiting his chance to oust glamour boy, I hope JK doesn't wait too long to give him that chance otherwise we might lose another good home grown player.

At the moment, I can't see anything at all to suggest Murphy could make a better centre than Atkins.

That's probably because you've only seen him on the wing

Murphy is a centre, came into the academy as a centre and was being coached as a centre before he made the step up to the first team, given half the time that Atkins has had to prove himself as a centre at first team level he will prove to be twice the player.

haywire...murphy can pass the ball..prima donna doesn't..as for RDM..you are a complete and utter fool..remember that jk is stuck with the majority of the squad he inherited. last year people were slagging wilkes, this year imo he has stepped up..so called loyal wakey supporters slagged snitch coming back..also been great...brought back korky..another inspired decision...peterson has been unlucky but outside atkins, he might as well not be there and he has had injuries. we have made massive strides this year and next year with so many players leaving jk will show us his true abilty as coach

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It would be interesting to see the two switch, Atkins playing outside of Murphy. I just think Atkins is wasted at centre and unless the line is begging, which happens few and far between, the move often breaks down with Atkins and his inability to pass to his wing.

In that case, then fair enough. I don't watch the academy. As I said, not seen anything myself that suggest he has the power or skill to play centre - but this is based on SL games only. From what I have seen, he could potentially make a good SL winger - but if he has shown more in the Academy/Alliance then it remains to be seen if he can do it at the highest level.

From an outsider looking in I don't know how much you value my input, but I really don't think you need to panic about getting in the play offs whatsoever.

To put it bluntly you've gone toe to toe with the best sides in Super League in Leeds Saints Huddersfield and afew other teams in and about the play off spots, and it must be difficult to back that up week on week.

With a few fixtures against teams nearer the bottom of the table I think normal service will be resumed and you will start showing what you can do again.

I wouldnt bet against a Cas v Wakey clash in the play offs!

As we are all counting, I've been watching for 35 years now (admittedly I was young at the start?!?! and followed home and away for many seasons)
JK is the best I have seen. We have good and bad times, and coaches but I have never seen a coach so influencial on the team and individual players.

To talk of getting rid if we don't make the playoffs is rediculous. Any season we don't finish bottom is good as far as our budget is concerned.
The fact that we have been 1 away from bottom for a long time in Super League was good but since JK has arrived we have been argueing over which playoff place we should have. Get some perspecive man!

You say now we have to win 3 to get playoff place. I would agree. So as that's perfctly possible.....why not join the rst of us and just support them while they attempt to do it!?

Good for you for posting that. I agree. I look forward to a rematch in the playoffs

Given the respective home performances, I hope the match is at Wheldon Road.

Not read all the posts in detail but to suggest we show Kear the door if we dont make the play offs is madness.

I can probalbly top most on here as I have watched us for 45 years (yes I'm an old sod) and I've seen good times and many bad. In the good times we has good support, money and good players and were successful. Since then we've struggled particularly financially and John Kear taking into account our limited finances (probably the lowest wage bill in SL) is the best coach I've seen at Belle Vue.

We have progressed, we can match the best in SL but not on a regular basis, thats we we are an average side and not a good side (Leeds, Saints being good). To be a good side we need to spend the full cap and be on a level playing field with the rest. That will only come with a new ground and hopefully increased income so we will have to be patient.

I think we are pulling together a good team for 2010, okay there will be departures but the signs look good to me.

As Mutts says "IN KEAR WE TRUST" - lets stop this talk of P45's.

Oh and by the way, who'd be on the wing outside Atkins - might as well bring a deck chair and a book - no wonder Side Show has gone, probably looking to reintroduce himself to a ball as he hever saw one whilst he was here.

Doctor always posts sense.

Well done today mate - Heaven knows I'm miserable now.

very well said mate. jk has worked miracles with what he has to work with, both on and off the field. speak to any of the players and they will tell you. i do agree with what he says about playing players out of position, but as far as kear is concerned , the best thing that has happened to wakey.

was next to JK in the coaching box today and was stunned to see and hear his reaction to the game, Grix needs to be in the middle, and when he subbed and then brought Drew back on he had too many players who he wanted to chance there arm.

I think emotion got the better of Kear today.

what do you mean , too many wanted to chance their arm john?

Wait for the usual vitriol from the all seeing eye that is Vasty........

Kears orders to Beans was get so and so on to chance his arm, with about 20 left.

He took Drew off then brought him back on much to Drews disgust, then when it went tits up was slinging his water about at the wndow, never seen Kear lose it like that, in my opinion he got too involved emotionally today.

I didn't think he came on when Wakey lost. If Wakey win and Cas lose, he is happy, if Ferguson scores and Westerman plays crap, he is creaming in his pants.

see what you mean john. thought it was strange when i saw drew come off and then 2 mins later back on