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| Quote ="jonh"Would take Cust and Parcell at Wakey.
Will be interesting to see how we use the quota spots.'"
We've used them or all, as far as I can see it anyway. There was a conversation about it a few pages back.
We've got Atoni, Rodwell, Vagana, Uele, Lino, Walmsley, and Bain all signed up on at least 2-year deals. Uele was just signed initially on a one-year deal, but he has just signed for another year. Bothroyd seems to be a year, even though at 20 he looks to have the potential to be a very good SL player but sadly he's a quota, if he wasn't we'd be keeping him IMO. All this is obviously on the proviso that there isn't anything in their contracts about Championship only but I can't see it.
I'm generally happy with the overseas we've got, the Props especially, they're young, big, athletic and only going to get better and grow as players this season, Atoni being the oldest at 28. Without naming names though I feel there are probably a couple where I think we could get British players to do the job, without using up a quota space.
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| Quote ="vastman"A few people seem to rate Oliver Leyland from London Broncos. To be honest I’ve never seen him play, so can’t comment.'"
I've watched a lot of London and one player I really like the look of is Meadows at 7, I'm not sure he's the level of being a starting SL half challenging for the top 6, but he would certainly be a useful to have in the squad, he looks good in a very poor team getting beat every week which is something.
Leyland is raw, makes a lot of errors and is a little bit off the pace for SL IMO.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I've watched a lot of London and one player I really like the look of is Meadows at 7, I'm not sure he's the level of being a starting SL half challenging for the top 6, but he would certainly be a useful to have in the squad, he looks good in a very poor team getting beat every week which is something.
Leyland is raw, makes a lot of errors and is a little bit off the pace for SL IMO.'"
I agree. The 7 is very good.
He won't be there long
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| A few people said no to Hurrell but he had a great game for Sts.
Thought TJ was OK but bombed a try with hus kick. Should have taken Miller on. I think he'd have beaten him.
Max will get him way more chances if he comes back.
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| Quote ="PopTart"A few people said no to Hurrell but he had a great game for Sts.
Thought TJ was OK but bombed a try with hus kick. Should have taken Miller on. I think he'd have beaten him.
Max will get him way more chances if he comes back.'"
Catalans don’t seem to have the game to create that space for TJ this season. He will score a ton with the way we are playing tho year if it continues into 2025.
Not sure why we are still talking about quotas when we are full. It’s the uk players we need to look at unless any are paid off and it’s too early to think about that.
There’s slim pickings for the uk players or none quota players but there is some good players like Laguerre, Johnstone, Storton, Hampshire are probably the pick.
There’s some maybe worth a look like Rouge who has good utility and looks young and capable.
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| Quote ="PopTart"A few people said no to Hurrell but he had a great game for Sts.
Thought TJ was OK but bombed a try with hus kick. Should have taken Miller on. I think he'd have beaten him.
Max will get him way more chances if he comes back.'"
Yes, TJ should have backed himself and gone for the corner, but tbh I think the pass caught him by surprise and he didn't know what to do, seeing as the only other one he got thrown attacking Leeds ended up in the stand .
Tbf though the rest of his game was solid IMO. Taking the ball out of his own 20 was strong, he didn't miss a tackle and I think his overall defence has improved, positionally and his one-on-one stuff while he's been at Catalans, not that it was bad when he left us. As we saw, given room he's still got his gas to burn.
I know he scored quite a few for Catalans last season, but in the 5 games I've seen him play for them this year, he hadn't scored until today. As Trojan says above and you allude to, I don't think they use him enough or get the most out of him. It may be because they have other good players but still, when you have a guy like TJ on the field you want to set plays up around him and get the ball to him whenever possible when attacking. If this was the only game I'd seen him play it'd be unfair to say the above but as I said it's the 5th game I've watched him in. I was quite surprised that he'd scored 33 in 40-something games. As you say Max will set him up far more than he does at Catalans and I feel Powell as a coach will know how to use him better than McNamara uses his wingers.
Yeah, it became comical with Hurrell and Blake causing them bedlam down that right side in that 2nd half, but then again you and I could have last night.
They completely lost the plot in that second half. I know they had to completely re-jig a few places after injuries, but they played against 12 men most of the first half, then came out in the 2nd and looked like they were playing with 11 men. When it later turned into a 12 v 12 game, it got even uglier.
As someone else mentioned apart from them gassing from the Clogger school of conditioning, they generally didn't have a plan A in attack in the 1st half, or a plan B in the second.
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| Although not quite the same, Matt Ellis has already shown that he’s willing to move contracted players on if they’re in the way of bringing a better player in. He brokered deals with Gaskill and Torfua to create room for other signings who’d help the team improve. We don’t need to fall out with a player to move him on and if it’s explained that he doesn’t figure in the team plans anymore I’m sure a player would accept the facts and move on.
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| Quote ="PopTart"
Thought TJ was OK but bombed a try with hus kick. Should have taken Miller on. I think he'd have beaten him.
Max will get him way more chances if he comes back.'"
I thinkTJ is a winger that thrives better with a decent centre and if he doesn't have one his talents are wasted.The guy alongside him yesterday was like another Franco.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Abdull out of that lot would be a cracking addition to the squad and it’s the one position that is looming large with Gale looking like it’s his last hurrah, and young Lawford some way off in his development imo ,it’s a must we have a quality established half playing behind our pack'"
Agree Ketty, just concerned about his see food diet. (And no that's not a typo)
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| Quote ="Dr Dreadnought"Agree Ketty, just concerned about his see food diet. (And no that's not a typo)'"
I'm not sure I would be too concerned about his physique, he seems fit enough and it doesn't seem to have affected his game up until now in his career and he's always carried a bit of extra weight, some players can just do it, in fact, some players look better players carrying a bit of weight.
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| Agreed, and I think Uele falls into that category too
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/two-clubs-make-move-for-corey-hall-as-hull-kr-future-remains-uncertain'"
I would just love to sign him and the fact that it would demonstrate we are a club on the way up whilst Cas are on their way down.
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| I would be happy with Hall coming back we would have two young centres who will get better with age
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| Great if it happens and would be good if we could get him now. I feel we do need to strengthen in the centres
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| Hall would be a better option for us than Cam Scott who I think has been poor this season
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| I'll be honest if Powell thinks he can improve him by working with Shenton, I trust him but I wouldn't be paying a fee for him. His defence is still a weak spot and he's still quite light weight imo. I know he's got age on his side but atm he wouldn't get in our side as a first-choice centre, I'd prefer Thornley and Pratt.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"I'll be honest if Powell thinks he can improve him by working with Shenton, I trust him but I wouldn't be paying a fee for him. His defence is still a weak spot and he's still quite light weight imo. I know he's got age on his side but atm he wouldn't get in our side as a first-choice centre, I'd prefer Thornley and Pratt.'"
When he was with us I can't really remember issues with his defence or being too light weight. In fact at the back end of his time we seemed to play him in the second row. He should never have left as I thought he was comming on great in his development. Bad but of business by a clueless individual
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt1"Great if it happens and would be good if we could get him now. I feel we do need to strengthen in the centres'"
Hall and TJ were pretty good together 2 years ago. Pratt and Walmsley on the right who are this seasons left partnership too is a bonus.
Could be a decent signing that if he can regather some form.
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| I think Cam Scott started in the second row in his last match.
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| Quote ="FOREVERTRIN"I think Cam Scott started in the second row in his last match.'"
Watched hull a few times and can’t say Scott has stood out. The club may see something in him but I’m not sure. Honestly if we are looking for him as a centre I’d be as happy to keep Croft who is reliable rotation cover for Centre/Wing.
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| In respect of Cam Scott I thought he was a great prospect a couple of seasons ago. However he now seems to be suffering the toxic environment over at Hull. I don't know what's going on over there in any detail but plenty of other good players now look terrible.
Also going back to Corrie Hall, the rug was pulled from under his feet at our place and when he first arrived at HKR he was getting MOM in his early games.
Plenty of players suffer form drop at clubs and a change to a different environment can make them flourish again.
We now have a team in place that actually know what they are doing as opposed to our last director of rugby. If one or both arrive with us, I will be happy with that.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"I'll be honest if Powell thinks he can improve him by working with Shenton, I trust him but I wouldn't be paying a fee for him. His defence is still a weak spot and he's still quite light weight imo. I know he's got age on his side but atm he wouldn't get in our side as a first-choice centre, I'd prefer Thornley and Pratt.'"
Agree. He's let a few past him on Sky this season. Has potential though.
I still think it's a shame Dagger went, I rated him.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"When he was with us I can't really remember issues with his defence or being too light weight. In fact at the back end of his time we seemed to play him in the second row. He should never have left as I thought he was comming on great in his development. Bad but of business by a clueless individual'"
At the time he was with us and it's just my opinion, I felt he was prone to getting bullied a bit by bigger centres/players but he was just a young player thrown into our team at the time, who was a prospect. His talent is obviously in attack, with his pace and eye for a gap. I've watched him a few times at HKR and he's been alright but if he wasn't one of our homegrown players I don't think I'd have noticed him so much tbh. I honestly don't remember him playing second row, look at the picture of him playing for Cas the other day, he's still the same fairly slight build he was when he left here. If he did, I don't know what we were thinking. Ateotd as I said I'd have him back, I trust Powell's judgment and working with Shenton would do wonders for his game like it seems to have with Pratt but I wouldn't pay Hull KR much of a fee for him.
Carter explained the situation on a podcast after he left, Hull KR had enquired about him before he left and we knocked them back but when we became desperate and wanted Dagger, who tbf played well for us. Corey was the only bargaining chip the club had he said. No one wanted to see him go but we unfortunately were a skint club then.
As for Scott, before this season I thought he looked like a good player but let's be honest Hull is a mess and there looks to be a toxic environment and no one has looked that good at Hull, like you say getting him away from there will reinvigorate his career.
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| Quote ="alegend"I would be happy with Hall coming back we would have two young centres who will get better with age'"
Would hall and Pratt be up to the full rigours of Super league as our main strike players in those positions personally I think not ,and still need more time to develop their games . As we’ve found out to our detriment there are no places to hide when the likes of Wigan , saints come calling , they are certainly no Collis or Tupou who would have graced any team in super league. Harsh as it may sound there is no room for sentiment if we are serious of competing with the very best . Imo we grab hall and develop him for the future the same as Pratt , but our starting centres next season , not for me I’m afraid , they’ll get torn a new one imo .
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