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| Quote ="vastman"Don't like the sound of that.
You're either putting out a hit on Scarlett when he's not worth it,
Or someone about to call it a day and I wouldn't blame them and if the club goes down the crapper then those on here will have had their dreams come true.
One slightly above average player won't sign a contract and it's the end of the world, why bother.'"
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| I for one am disappointed ryan as gone i make no secret i think max is very overated by many and think ryan is a way better player but thats my opinion and im not WP and the the coaching team and will support them who ever plays after all i support wakefied trinity as a club not the individuals.again i make no secret im concerned about the lack of depth in certain areas but again im sure WP and his coaching team have this in hand and plans afoot with scope and possibility of players coming in. Out of the newbies only hood excites me gaskell does a bit as he quality on his day just the injuries put me off but i could name a few players i thought eh why we signed him but hes gone on to be fantastic ie finn but we signed players i thought yes but they turned out to be dudds. But i will be at headingley on boxing days cheering my club on no matter who plays as i will be at every sl game i can get to aswell and i will always be cheering on my team not the individuals. Yes i can moan and be very pessimistic just the way i am but ill be therI just hope many others who may be disgruntled at this time are too..
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I doubt my opinion would make Jose leave unless they are just looking for an excuse to get out. There are enough of you on here backing him so why should he have a problem with criticism from one supporter. He could put me on ignore because whatever happens be it successful or unsuccessful can only be attributed to those in charge. I will make it easy for him by removing myself from this part of the forum but I will remain on the section that allows me and others to point out how bad the government and especially the PM is for the country.'"
No just moderate your posts accordingly.
The PM and the government are elected!
MC and JM are not, I’m not even sure they are even paid a salary or certainly not one that genuinely equates to what they would get elsewhere.
MC as we know risked his house at the start and probably still has money tied up. Pretty sure Boris doesn’t.
You are totally entitled to think and say what you like within the law about Boris and Co, they know the score. But MC/JM/WP and poor old CC are private individuals going about their business, no way do they deserve similar treatment.
If you don’t like what they do then don’t go and leave it at that. I’d rather you went but if it pains you and others so much then why bother. Let the club die a natural death if you must but why try and speed it up because that’s what you are doing.
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| Well, this thread has taken a strange turn hasn't it?
Can we get back to the departure of Ryan? if certain forum members wish to depart that is their choice but we don't really need a debate about it.
FWIW I am pretty sad Ryan has gone, always good to see local lads who supported the club as a boy play in the RW&B.
But, as PT has pointed out previously Westerman leaving is the bigger blow, we will do ok next season, there's still some good quality in that squad.
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| Problem is that some on here only see it from one perspective. According to them Trinity have pushed him away and declined to sign him.
Has it crossed their mind as to why? I don't know but I rather suspect that Ryan values himself a little bit above what the club can afford.
IF that's correct then the club were right to stand firm.
He's gone (unless he changes his mind, of course!) In my view Gaskell will do the utility job RH was doing last season.
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| The squad as it stands is week I understand the budget situation but on the other hand the youngsters will play a part in the season my concern is injury’s to our pivots 1 6 7 we’ve nobody to cover
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| Quote ="cosmicat"The squad as it stands is week I understand the budget situation but on the other hand the youngsters will play a part in the season my concern is injury’s to our pivots 1 6 7 we’ve nobody to cover'"
It would be nice just to let WP/MC/JM finish the recruiting first before some on here start moaning.
Players come, players go.
Some through their choice, some through the clubs.
Just let the staff get on with it.
We are still 3 months from the start of the season.
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Whatever the opinions of people on here, and there are some pros and cons for both arguments.
The fact that Rocky Hampshire won’t be playing for trinity next season isn’t the worst thing to happen to us player wise.
It’s not so many seasons ago teams used to rock up and cherry pick our players if they thought they’d be any use.
I got sick of reading other fans forums where they’d be squabbling with comments like ...”when Trinity get relegated who would we want from their team’.
It didn’t happen ......through a combination of astute signings and more lately a shift to produce home grown talent the tide in my opinion is starting to pay dividends.
we don’t always get it right and time will tell with the release of Rocky Hampshire. Let’s wait and see..
The 23% reduction in memberships is disappointing the last two seasons may have contributed to this .COVID certainly hasn’t helped. However despite the reduction (£450,000 tv money ) we’ve amazingly managed to keep the vast majority of the squad together . Let’s not start to throw the towel in just yet over one player.
If you really want the club to move forward players wise try to purchase a season ticket, or some merchandise . We’re approaching an important point in the clubs history regarding the stadium, if this come off the club will certainly be able to move forward making more money available to buy better players. There are far more positives than negatives going on at OUR CLUB. We just need to hold the line a little longer and try to be a bit more positive .'"
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| Quote ="AMI"Correct'"
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| Quote ="vastman"Correct x 2'"
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| This came up on MCs Q&A.
He wasn't absolutely specific but said that no negotiations happened. Its only implied but that implication to me is that he didn't ask to stay and we didn't ask him to stay.
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| Quote ="PopTart"This came up on MCs Q&A.
He wasn't absolutely specific but said that no negotiations happened. Its only implied but that implication to me is that he didn't ask to stay and we didn't ask him to stay.'"
Interesting.
Must have a gig lined up elsewhere, best of luck to the lad.
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| Quote ="vastman"Interesting.
Must have a gig lined up elsewhere, best of luck to the lad.'"
Halifax seems to be signing up a lot of our players, Kyle Wood being the latest. They are putting together quite a good squad, so maybe there?
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| Quote ="djcool"Halifax seems to be signing up a lot of our players, Kyle Wood being the latest. They are putting together quite a good squad, so maybe there?'"
Would have thought he'd want to stay in SL tbh.
He's not the messiah some on here make out but he's a useful player for most SL clubs to be interested. It all boils down to cash I suppose. One thing for certain, either he doesn't want to play for us anymore or we don't want him or both if no negotiations took place. For whatever reason, he's not a Trinity player anymore, so I say let's concentrate on and support those who are.
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| Quote ="vastman"Would have thought he'd want to stay in SL tbh.
He's not the messiah some on here make out but he's a useful player for most SL clubs to be interested. It all boils down to cash I suppose. One thing for certain, either he doesn't want to play for us anymore or we don't want him or both if no negotiations took place. For whatever reason, he's not a Trinity player anymore, so I say let's concentrate on and support those who are.'"
Belive he is training to be a sparky,this is a oriblem with rugby league kyke as played top level rugby for many a year but now he coming to end of his career he needs to learn a trade.even 2nd and 3rd teir footballers dont need to do that
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Belive he is training to be a sparky,this is a oriblem with rugby league kyke as played top level rugby for many a year but now he coming to end of his career he needs to learn a trade.even 2nd and 3rd teir footballers dont need to do that'"
He's a strange one is Hampshire. Popular with fans yet not with coaches it would appear. It's ok everyone on here blasting CC or WP but they only seem to think the same that all his previous coaches. They can't all be wrong. There is clearly something there that we don't see.
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| Quote ="vastman"He's a strange one is Hampshire. Popular with fans yet not with coaches it would appear. It's ok everyone on here blasting CC or WP but they only seem to think the same that all his previous coaches. They can't all be wrong. There is clearly something there that we don't see.'"
I really like the guy and was pleased when we managed to get him after he'd eluded us at Wigan, Cas and Leigh. You do get the feeling he's suffered within the club because of the zealeotry of some of his supporters.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I really like the guy and was pleased when we managed to get him after he'd eluded us at Wigan, Cas and Leigh. You do get the feeling he's suffered within the club because of the zealeotry of some of his supporters.'"
Spot on.
It got quite ridiculous at times and can only have hindered him. I remember one of his bigger fans claiming him to be the best H/B of his generation, I honestly don't see how anyone can think this sort of OTT nonsense helps the lad. It puts unrealistic expectations on the player's shoulders, a player who himself never seemed anything other than modest.
It also puts other peoples backs up, even if it's only subconscious, it just doesn't help. In this respect, I feel very sorry for Hampshire who always seemed a very reluctant hero.
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| I don't know what the coaches see and don't see, but whenever this happens to a player that looks great it tends to be because they can't follow the game plan.
Hampshire is an absolute athlete. When he has the ball either at his feet or on a breakaway he is one of the best. But if he's not moving in the same direction it would disrupt the coaches plans.
I've no idea if that's the case but there has to be something. It can't be that every coach doesn't see his talent or doesn't like him.
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| Could it possibly be his vaccination status. We have 2 games in France, 4 if we are unlucky on the loop fixtures, thats about 14% of games unavailable by choice, nevermind injury. With him being an anti masker, it is also possible he is anti vaccination.
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| Quote ="burtonsrlfc"Could it possibly be his vaccination status. We have 2 games in France, 4 if we are unlucky on the loop fixtures, thats about 14% of games unavailable by choice, nevermind injury. With him being an anti masker, it is also possible he is anti vaccination.'"
Is he?
If so, he has the right not to mask/vax.
Equally, the club have the right to not renew his contact.
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| Quote ="vastman"No just moderate your posts accordingly.
The PM and the government are elected!
MC and JM are not, I’m not even sure they are even paid a salary or certainly not one that genuinely equates to what they would get elsewhere.
MC as we know risked his house at the start and probably still has money tied up. Pretty sure Boris doesn’t.
You are totally entitled to think and say what you like within the law about Boris and Co, they know the score. But MC/JM/WP and poor old CC are private individuals going about their business, no way do they deserve similar treatment.
If you don’t like what they do then don’t go and leave it at that. I’d rather you went but if it pains you and others so much then why bother. Let the club die a natural death if you must but why try and speed it up because that’s what you are doing.'"
I can’t believe I have to post but as per usual in order to try to impress those in charge you did not read what I actually wrote. What I said was I was leaving this side but not the forum in its entirety. I will still post my views on Boris and his band on the side that appears to be Vastman free the Sin Bin. I was not equating the club with the shambles that currently run the country, if only you would take more care before jumping on your high horse.
Whilst I am here let us not forget that as part of being in SL we must one week run a reserve team and an under 18 side the next.
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| Earth to Vasty, earth to Vasty.
Come on do you really believe the bilge you have just spouted.
Not taking a salary, or if so one that amounts to nothing.
House still on the line, after how many years.
Its all getting a bit sickening this skint bregade spew.
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| Earth to Vasty, earth to Vasty.
Come on do you really believe the bilge you have just spouted.
Not taking a salary, or if so one that amounts to nothing.
House still on the line, after how many years.
Its all getting a bit sickening this skint bregade spew.
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| Quote ="burtonsrlfc"Could it possibly be his vaccination status. We have 2 games in France, 4 if we are unlucky on the loop fixtures, thats about 14% of games unavailable by choice, never mind injury. With him being an anti masker, it is also possible he is anti vaccination.'"
I wouldn't rule out your theory but on the assumption he stays in super league he would still have the same problem surely?
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