No idea what I've done to upset you. I'm not right bothered to be honest so get it out of your system if it helps.

Maybe admitting that your opinion on Mamo is wildly off the mark?

The thing about opinions is, they're never wrong, an opinion is just that, not fact but an opinion.
You don't have to agree with it and your opinion maybe at the opposite side of the spectrum, but to ridicule an opinion with out an opposing one seems a little futile.
I'm certainly not sticking up for Vasty and maybe the word "mercenary" is a little strong, but I can see where he's coming from.
Up until Hudds try I wasn't even sure Mamo was playing and I said to my lad when Mamo got tackled just short of the line "is that his first touch" which kinda begs the question, is there a young English FB that could have performed as well as Mamo in that game, I reckon there probably is

But it's not, I think he's poor value and I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Perhaps it's time you accepted opinions other than your own and were perhaps a little less hysterical.

However if it helps, your love child Mamo is not the worst I've ever seen, there better now?

I remember that Mamo looked very dangerous last year until his injury. The Hudds coach has admitted that he has had a difficult start to the year, but if he shows some of his pre-injury form from last year, he might do okay. I'm not sure judging a player from Australia in the middle of the Beast from the East is a good way to assess potential.

As Slugger says he has shown very good form last year so he clearly has the skills.
I'm sure the beast had something to do with it. Can't imagine Pauli Pauli found that much fun either.

However, remember how poor Barba looked when he came here and Tomkins too. They can't all be just going through a poor run. I think some credit needs to go to Chester's tactics and the tackling from the team.

Yeah but it's not just that, He is 'allegedly' on 150k plus and he simply isn't that good - he was never considered top flight in the NRL so why are we treaing him as such. I mean 29 NRL games for Newcastle!

That's less than both Randell and Pauli and I bet combined there not on what Mamo is on nor did they arrive with quite the over inflated reputation.

I don't doubt when fit he's a decent player but he is not and never will be exceptional and if true is nowhere near worth what they are paying him.

So yes I feel we can judge after a year, not just four games as you suggest. He is frankly no better than Jowitt despite Fickle rather pathetic fawning opinion of him. One that simply can't be justified for a player with as far as I can tell 29 games for the NRL's worst team. But hey stick an Aussie accent on any player and some British fans lose all reason.

If he's as good as the demented fickle makes out then frankly Pauli Pauli and Randell are International class by comparrison. There not in my opinion but using his logic they are.

Don't buy that, Barba was a superstar, Momo played 29 NRL games for Newcastle - they are not even in the same ball park.

What I don't get is why one poster is so offended by an opinion of a player that isn't even ours. So what, we have two ex Newcastle players of our own both of whom have far better reps so why doesn't he concentrate on them.

I don't rate Mamo or quite a few who are similar. I want Aussies who improve the product or who offer what we can't.

I especially liked the signing of PP because in this country we simply don't have the raw material to produce that kind of player so I get it. Randall I'm less sure of but his opening salvo did look promising.

If Fickle loves Mamo so much he knows where he can watch him play, me I'd rather watch Grix or Jowitt.

Mamo is ok and played very well against us at their place last season.
150k though ??

Don't have a love in with Mamo, or an obsession with him.
If you look back vasty, it's you who has the issue with a player that's not ours.
Someone mentioned he didn't think he was that good, then you jumped in with your character assassination, you also failed to mention that when he was fit last year, he had a big impact on Shudds revival, scoring 13 trys in 12 apps.

I thought Mamo was pretty good when fully fit last year and was Shudds stand out player. They suffered really badly when he was missing. He certainly hasn't picked up this year where he left off. Broughy looks ready for another move. Take them two out and it's Shudds for middle 8's again

All in all it's pretty good news.

Mamo is a very good player, anybody who holds the opinion that he is not a very good player is a poor judge.

Belly, you get it so wrong so often it's not even funny - well it si a bit

Character assassination, grow up.

I said I didn't rate him enough for him to be worth the money he's allegedly on.

So go on justify to me why he was worse bringing half way around the world and paying what I suspect is three times what Grix the player he replaced is on.

The issue is not how good he is but is he worth bringing so far and paying so much when there are British FB's who could do the job. How will we ever win at international level if we are depending on 29 game NRL players?

However Fickle that's not what this is about is it. You've decided for reasons best known to yourself to have a pop at me. Fine but let's not pretend it's about Momo a player a I doubt you give two stuffs about.

Give it a rest. Who cares about Jake Mamo?

Handbags at dawn over an Aussie who plays for another team?!

He was good last year - and this year he isn't; that's where my interest begins and ends.

Yup

Mamo may split opinion, I would say though if on a rumoured £150k a year he is better value than blinking Christa Ackroyd's reported £150k a year!!!!

Why, does she play for Shudds?

Without wishing to spark this debate up again, Mamo isnt the issue here, its Huddersfield as the club. They (and their aussie coach) have decided to import a player from Australia rather than give an Englishman the chance. It isn't Mamo's fault someone rings him and says, fancy playing in the UK for (the reported) 150k a year ?

If someone rang me and said we'll pay you a $hit load of money to move abroad and do exactly the same job, I'd do it

I think Hudds/Davy have a bit of a reputation for throwing out lucrative contracts when they are not really needed, in most cases paying players a lot more than they are worth and handing out 5 year deals without any real consideration. I think Huddersfield fans recognize this more than anyone.

Nobody but the player and the club know what Mamo is payed, so the 150k is pure speculation but if that ballpark figure is true then i agree who blames Mamo for taking it? Before his injury last season, he was the inform Fullback in the comp and had that XFactor, since he has returned from his injury he has been a shadow of his former self. Rick Stone knew exactly what he was getting with Mamo.

I don't think it is - and here I think is what vasty was getting at originally before he got pilloried; it's a SL issue - we persistently import average Aussies, either at the end of their career in the NRL, or in some kind of NRL wilderness - and it's easy to suggest that blocks the progress of English players.

I think it's much worse than that though - because of the parlous state of the junior game, we don't actually have the requisite amount of young players coming through to fill those gaps - and certain clubs have a habit of hovering up the ones who do - so a significant proportion of the AAI's (average Aussie imports) are out of necessity rather than choice.

The British game, in general, can only afford average Aussies.
The top rated players wont come over here for 2 reasons, the would no longer get picked for Origin or Internationals and, more importantly, they would be taking a huge pay cut.
Therefore, we are left with players trying to re-build their careers, usually after serious injury or some kind of disciplinary issue.
However, some of your AAI's turn out to be cracking players in the British game and with the overseas players at Trinity, it's slightly disparaging to class them as AAI's.
Right now, Trinity's quota players have to be the best group we've ever had.
POund for pound, we must be doing better than the rest of SL as most other sides seem to have "imports" that you wouldn't want to pay in bottle tops.

I'll go through this one at a time, then I'm finished.
I would say that you have assassinated his character, by saying he's a 'mercenary' and 'not an Aussie looking for a second chance'.
I'm sure you wouldn't like your character brought into question by a complete stranger?
Your first post never mentioned money, you only started mentioning it when jakey95 quoted a figure, which you now have knocked 20k off! (allegedly)
Whatever Shudds are paying him is their business and if they saw fit to release Grix, that's their loss and our gain. Grix wasn't the only player to fall foul of Stone, Ferguson was almost out of the door but a strong WC got him back on board.
Mamo is 23, was recovering from a serious ankle injury when he came over, which probably hastened his exit from Newcastle, as you pointed out, they were the wooden spoonists last season and probably couldn't take a gamble on him being injured again, so he comes to Enlgand looking for that 'second chance'.
In his 29 games he scored 11 tries, that's not a bad return for a player in the worse NRL team.
As for competing at International level with 'these sorts of imports', fullback isn't a problem.
The one thing that you do have right, is that I'm not particularly bothered about Mamo but like bren said, he was good last season, not this season.(so far).
I'm sorry if I have hurt that over inflated ego of yours but if you give it, you've got to take it.

In past years we have been guilty as charged in this respect, so I don't feel we should be 'calling' Huddersfield.