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| If the is a member if the WTW fraternity who has such connections that they are 'in the know' to such great detail... Then their connections to industry must be significant, and they should really come forward and use those connections to the benefit of the club.
If however our amber and black friend has been fed some bluster and bull... Then we need a name, in order that the person can 'be taken to task' for unnecessary mischief.
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| Quote ="JINJER"C'mon, he's hardly likely to drop his mate in it by naming him is he?'"
The can of worms has been opened... It shouldnt be too difficult to find out who told him... It's a small community!
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| Up to now, having very little knowledge of the whole process, my understanding was and still is, that as part of the 106 agreement, at a certain trigger point, the developer builds a new stadium? There may are may not be a funding gap? At this present moment it's about 49th on the list of things to worry about. The only aim for everyone should be on where we finish next season. I don't know who's told dave what? And quite frankly I couldn't care either. We have the mechanism in place which, to my mind, we can use as and when certain things fall into place. I don't see how the developer gets out of that. And the 'agreement' is with a stadium trust, not with the club anyway?
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"The can of worms has been opened... It shouldnt be too difficult to find out who told him... It's a small community!'"
Well dont look at me, it was Big Lads Mate, ask sugar
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Up to now, having very little knowledge of the whole process, my understanding was and still is, that as part of the 106 agreement, at a certain trigger point, the developer builds a new stadium? There may are may not be a funding gap? At this present moment it's about 49th on the list of things to worry about. The only aim for everyone should be on where we finish next season. I don't know who's told dave what? And quite frankly I couldn't care either. We have the mechanism in place which, to my mind, we can use as and when certain things fall into place. I don't see how the developer gets out of that. And the 'agreement' is with a stadium trust, not with the club anyway?'"
2 part question Mr Carter.
First, do you think it would be unreasonable for the club/yourself to ask Sir Rodney Walker & Directors at Yorkcourt for statements that can be put out to reassure fans/keep us (the community) in the loop when it comes to the community stadium.
Secondly, if you don't think it's unreasonable, is it something you could try & orchestrate for the beginning of the season.
I agree it's a limited priority at this second, but showing the bright future will help build a feel good factor moving into 2014.
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| Firstly, it's michael. You say mr carter and I turn round to look for my dad!
Secondly, I'm meeting them at the end of the month. But I'm not asking them to make any statements. As I said my only priority is finishing high enough to stay in super league whilst balancing the books. The rest will follow in due course.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Up to now, having very little knowledge of the whole process, my understanding was and still is, that as part of the 106 agreement, at a certain trigger point, the developer builds a new stadium? There may are may not be a funding gap? At this present moment it's about 49th on the list of things to worry about. The only aim for everyone should be on where we finish next season. I don't know who's told dave what? And quite frankly I couldn't care either. We have the mechanism in place which, to my mind, we can use as and when certain things fall into place. I don't see how the developer gets out of that. And the 'agreement' is with a stadium trust, not with the club anyway?'"
You are doing much better job than I initially expected and I understand you have priorties, but 49th on the list !!!
Lets hope there is rapid promotion to the top 10
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Well dont look at me, it was Big Lads Mate, ask sugar'"
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"icon_eek.gif'"
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I hope so
the talks which my infrmation has come from though were not involving WTW representatives at the time I believe, though again, I can't verify this'"
I wasn't going to get involved in this because the reaction has given your original statement an air of undeserved credibility. You might have some friends on here but your not fooling me. The tone of your posts has turned since we started to get back on our feet. It's no surprise that these kind of rumours always seem to come right on the top of a wave of feel good and most seem to always fall for it repeatedly over the years.
If I'm wrong I'll happily buy you a pint in the Shed
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Don't bite; as with a thousand other rumours from an unsubstantiated source it will more than likely result in a few knee jerk reactions and then nothing. This is nothing against you personally Dave but I really don't see why you'd post this, you can't prove it and its only going to cause you grief.'"
He could prove it, if it is true... And justify his post by naming his alleged source... And providing the appropriate and relevant provenance.
Otherwise I/we must assume the intent of the post was mischief and ill will, true or not!
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| The most concerning thing for me is, we have two extremely prominent SWAG members running to M.C to alleviate their fears, based on a sketchy internet post.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"The most concerning thing for me is, we have two extremely prominent SWAG members running to M.C to alleviate their fears, based on a sketchy internet post.'"
Not quite what happened - but we do seem to have a feather trigger on this forum where theses stories are concerned.
Problem is you can't dismiss them all especially from a poster with no previous - we had to check it out as it's exactly how we got to know about Thornes failing.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"The most concerning thing for me is, we have two extremely prominent SWAG members running to M.C to alleviate their fears, based on a sketchy internet post.'"
This has always been the way. I will not comment without knowing my facts first. MC was in his office so we took the opportunity to catch up a little. When we had the answer we posted it on here.
There are many meetings and discussions taking place and it is difficult to keep an eye on all of them! Plus, as can be seen, MC is new to all of this and has had very little time to become acquainted with all the history involved.
We do take rumours seriously - until proven otherwise.
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| Quote ="vastman"Not quite what happened - but we do seem to have a feather trigger on this forum where theses stories are concerned.
Problem is you can't dismiss them all especially from a poster with no previous - we had to check it out as it's exactly how we got to know about Thornes failing.'"
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| TRB and IA are in a position to raise concerns directly to the club. I don’t seen the problem with them being able to use that position and at least partially allaying fears by speaking to the key players involved in the project. Otherwise this uncertainly could’ve gone on for a number of days/weeks at a time when we need everyone pulling together and supporting the club.
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| Quote ="TRB"This has always been the way. I will not comment without knowing my facts first. MC was in his office so we took the opportunity to catch up a little. When we had the answer we posted it on here.
There are many meetings and discussions taking place and it is difficult to keep an eye on all of them! Plus, as can be seen, MC is new to all of this and has had very little time to become acquainted with all the history involved.
We do take rumours seriously - until proven otherwise.'"
This
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"TRB and IA are in a position to raise concerns directly to the club. I don’t seen the problem with them being able to use that position and at least partially allaying fears by speaking to the key players involved in the project. Otherwise this uncertainly could’ve gone on for a number of days/weeks at a time when we need everyone pulling together and supporting the club.'"
...and this!
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"TRB and IA are in a position to raise concerns directly to the club. I don’t seen the problem with them being able to use that position and at least partially allaying fears by speaking to the key players involved in the project. Otherwise this uncertainly could’ve gone on for a number of days/weeks at a time when we need everyone pulling together and supporting the club.'"
The problem with this though is, it gives the nut jobs the green light to post scurrilous rumours, which will have SWAG members checking out endless B.S.
Unless of course they have some sort of filter system to differentiate between genuine posters & crazy zealots.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"The problem with this though is, it gives the nut jobs the green light to post scurrilous rumours, which will have SWAG members checking out endless B.S.
Unless of course they have some sort of filter system to differentiate between genuine posters & crazy zealots.'"
AFAIK Dave@Cas has a previously unblemished record on here.
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| I don´t know about anyone else but I am bored to the back teeth of the subject of a new ground. It will happen when it happens and I am firmly of a belief that it will happen but until a brick is laid it is in the back of my mind.
I am more excited about the new season and ruffling some feathers of the ´bigger´ clubs.
When I win the lottery I will buy Belle Vue and build the old ground up!
It remains to seen which happens first Newmarket or me winnng the lottery!
In the meantime roll on the new season!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Firstly, it's michael. You say mr carter and I turn round to look for my dad!
Secondly, I'm meeting them at the end of the month. But I'm not asking them to make any statements. As I said my only priority is finishing high enough to stay in super league whilst balancing the books. The rest will follow in due course.'"
So has it been comfirmed relegation is happening?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"So has it been comfirmed relegation is happening?'"
There will be a reduction to 12 clubs at the end of 2014. This is as per the RFL's directive.
The make up of the league structure from 2015, including P&R at the end of that season, is yet to be agreed.
2 clubs will be relegated - assuming all 14 finish the season!
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"I don´t know about anyone else but I am bored to the back teeth of the subject of a new ground. It will happen when it happens and I am firmly of a belief that it will happen but until a brick is laid it is in the back of my mind.
I am more excited about the new season and ruffling some feathers of the ´bigger´ clubs.
When !'"
THis my take on things too. No real interest in how the proposed new ground is progressing until season tickets become available. Should be a filter to remove any topic subjects containing either Newmarket or New ground.
Lets have a filter for "It's Monday and I haven't seen the lottery numbers published yet" as well.
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| Quote ="deeHell"I wasn't going to get involved in this because the reaction has given your original statement an air of undeserved credibility. You might have some friends on here but your not fooling me. The tone of your posts has turned since we started to get back on our feet. It's no surprise that these kind of rumours always seem to come right on the top of a wave of feel good and most seem to always fall for it repeatedly over the years.
If I'm wrong I'll happily buy you a pint in the Shed
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if that is the case, then it's unit=ntentional. I'm nt in any way displeased that wakefield once more are out of a mess. Castleford wouldn't survive I don't think without Wakefield as it would highlight a weakness in the WF area that'd be exploited.
I want you to finish below us, end of
And if I'm right I'll get you a pint back
I did notice however that DC said he had an update meeting at the end of the month? I did say that things would be brought to light "in a couple of weeks" .....this may be pure coincidence
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